Tank Fest Update Around the League

saintEscaton · Post #261 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:58 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Wizards are so bad we might lose our pick.

I shut it off when the Bulls without Butler/Rose were blowing them out by 20 points. The game wasn't as close as the score might have indicated. The Wiz have the easiest remaining schedule tho, don't see them making the playoffs either so I think we should be in the clear. That pick could realistically range anywhere from 10 to 14, Sactown could also falter

Mulhollanddrive · Post #262 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:17 am

Unless they get Durant, we'll probably get a middling pick from them at some stage, probably better in 2017 in a stronger draft anyway.

King4Day · Post #263 » by **King4Day** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:41 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
Bogyo wrote:That game is only tomorrow, so its not a back to back for Brooklyn. Plus it's a must lose for us to secure the 3rd positon in the standings. I don't care how we do it as long as we do it. Make PJ our ballhandler, whatever...

Yea forgot it wasn't tonight. But I still expect us to win.
I want the losses but I also don't want to break any losing streak records.
It wouldn't be the worst thing for Watson to get win under his belt either.

I'm not sure why you expect us to win when we are losing by like 40 to people.

Last game aside, we competing in games against some good teams. The circumstances with Brooklyn coming to Phoenix after having just played in Portland makes me think this one will be ours and it'll be a convincing win.
Also, with talks Joe Johnson is beginning buyout talks, his mind might be on getting his foot out the door more than winning a meaningless road game for his future former team.

thamadkant · Post #264 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:15 pm

The suns / nets game is very critical.

TeamTragic · Post #265 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:39 pm

Brooklyn about to buyout Joe Johnson. That will definitely impact their tank.

Bogyo · Post #266 » by **Bogyo** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:49 pm

GoranTragic wrote:Brooklyn about to buyout Joe Johnson. That will definitely impact their tank.

I just dont get why they are tanking, as they have no draft picks. Nor anyone to develop in the space JJ leaves behind.
I wonder if he joins the Cavs, or goes to a random place where he will be paid more on a longer contract.

andyhop · Post #267 » by **andyhop** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:40 am

Bogyo wrote:
I just dont get why they are tanking, as they have no draft picks. Nor anyone to develop in the space JJ leaves behind.
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They probably want the $3m he is leaving on the table more than keeping him to play 20-30 meaningless games

Mulhollanddrive · Post #268 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 3:34 am

Our next door neighbours Brooklyn (2 games behind) vs Lakers (3 games in front).

saintEscaton · Post #269 » by **saintEscaton** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 4:34 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Our next door neighbours Brooklyn (2 games behind) vs Lakers (3 games in front).

Fakers need to win they are actually 4 games ahead in the tankathon, Brooklyn isn't much of a threat to catch us we have enough breathing room. That way we are within striking distance by the time we have head to head games against them in late March.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #270 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 6:09 am

I think we'll play to win against the Lakers.

The FO cant afford to give them less ping pong balls, in case they drop to pick 4/5 and it turns into a star player.

Post #271 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 6:24 am

saintEscaton wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Our next door neighbours Brooklyn (2 games behind) vs Lakers (3 games in front).

Fakers need to win they are actually 4 games ahead in the tankathon, Brooklyn isn't much of a threat to catch us we have enough breathing room. That way we are within striking distance by the time we have head to head games against them in late March.

We now only have one more loss than the Nets. That's not much breathing room. But obsesssing about this stuff won't change anything. The order will probably end up being far differently than it looks at season's end anyway.

Time for Brooklyn to pick up Ty Lawson and Kevin Martin and play them big minutes and tell them to prove themselves. Dallas will probably get Martin though.

Funky Tut · Post #272 » by **Funky Tut** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 6:43 am

Russell dropped 39, Lakers fans are anointing him as the savior of the franchise but he only has slightly better numbers than Booker.

AtheJ415 · Post #273 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 5:39 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I think we'll play to win against the Lakers.

The FO cant afford to give them less ping pong balls, in case they drop to pick 4/5 and it turns into a star player.

It's a sunk cost. Our future is better off winning the ping pong battle.

AtheJ415 · Post #274 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 5:41 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Our next door neighbours Brooklyn (2 games behind) vs Lakers (3 games in front).

Fakers need to win they are actually 4 games ahead in the tankathon, Brooklyn isn't much of a threat to catch us we have enough breathing room. That way we are within striking distance by the time we have head to head games against them in late March.

We now only have one more loss than the Nets. That's not much breathing room. But obsesssing about this stuff won't change anything. The order will probably end up being far differently than it looks at season's end anyway.

Time for Brooklyn to pick up Ty Lawson and Kevin Martin and play them big minutes and tell them to prove themselves. Dallas will probably get Martin though.

Wins are the thing to focus on. All of these teams accumulate losses easily. Wins are rare. 2 win difference is significant. I think Brooklyn won't catch us. It'll be tough to catch LA now though. We had a decent chance so long as we lost the head to head LA games until the Grizzlies win.

Post #275 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 5:46 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
Fakers need to win they are actually 4 games ahead in the tankathon, Brooklyn isn't much of a threat to catch us we have enough breathing room. That way we are within striking distance by the time we have head to head games against them in late March.

We now only have one more loss than the Nets. That's not much breathing room. But obsesssing about this stuff won't change anything. The order will probably end up being far differently than it looks at season's end anyway.

Time for Brooklyn to pick up Ty Lawson and Kevin Martin and play them big minutes and tell them to prove themselves. Dallas will probably get Martin though.

Wins are the thing to focus on. All of these teams accumulate losses easily. Wins are rare. 2 win difference is significant. I think Brooklyn won't catch us. It'll be tough to catch LA now though. We had a decent chance so long as we lost the head to head LA games until the Grizzlies win.

Yes, you've certainly been optimistic about our lotto chances. Hope you are right. Hopefully Brooklyn beats Philly both times they play.

bhawk · Post #276 » by **bhawk** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 5:56 pm

It would be nice to finish worse than the Lakers and get more ping pong balls, but our schedule is easier and we will definitely "luck" into some wins. It is possible to catch the Lakers if, we lose out. That means losing to the Lakers twice, the Grizz twice, the TWolves twice, and the Nugs / Knicks once.

I don't think that we catch the Nets as they have to play the 76ers twice and TWolves once.

3rd worst is the likely outcome but 2nd worse sure would be great!

AtheJ415 · Post #277 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 6:58 pm

bhawk wrote:It would be nice to finish worse than the Lakers and get more ping pong balls, but our schedule is easier and we will definitely "luck" into some wins. It is possible to catch the Lakers if, we lose out. That means losing to the Lakers twice, the Grizz twice, the TWolves twice, and the Nugs / Knicks once.

I don't think that we catch the Nets as they have to play the 76ers twice and TWolves once.

3rd worst is the likely outcome but 2nd worse sure would be great!

We don't need to lose out at all. All we have to do is lose both Lakers games and then lose a whopping 1 more game than LA in the rest of the other games. We have gained significant ground on them ever since Bledsoe and Knight went down. I'm not sure why that wouldn't continue. The key is losing both Lakers games. If we split the chances are still low but it's reasonably possible. If we win both there's virtually 0 chance.

saintEscaton · Post #278 » by **saintEscaton** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:48 pm

God I really hope Knight doesn't return and light up the Lakers. He got that triple double when he was at SG playing alongside Bled tho. He will be given the reigns as our tank commander running the point , like the last time we scored a franchise low 22 points in a half against them

jcsunsfan · Post #279 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 11:26 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:
bhawk wrote:It would be nice to finish worse than the Lakers and get more ping pong balls, but our schedule is easier and we will definitely "luck" into some wins. It is possible to catch the Lakers if, we lose out. That means losing to the Lakers twice, the Grizz twice, the TWolves twice, and the Nugs / Knicks once.

I don't think that we catch the Nets as they have to play the 76ers twice and TWolves once.

3rd worst is the likely outcome but 2nd worse sure would be great!

We don't need to lose out at all. All we have to do is lose both Lakers games and then lose a whopping 1 more game than LA in the rest of the other games. We have gained significant ground on them ever since Bledsoe and Knight went down. I'm not sure why that wouldn't continue. The key is losing both Lakers games. If we split the chances are still low but it's reasonably possible. If we win both there's virtually 0 chance.

We aren't going to outtank the Lakers.

JohnVancouver · Post #280 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 11:42 pm

Saberestar wrote: someone like Jaylen Brown or Ivan Rabb is gonna fall out of the Top 10 and McDonough scout really well those type of players.
Booker was a Top 10 (New Orleans) until the last week when they fall in love with Kaminsky....

You really see JBrown dropping? He's moving up all the mocks I've looked at