Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIV

[gambitx777]

Ok so I clearly need to do better when drunk posting about my girlfriencd lol.
But my question is, its august? are we trading mahinmi> ? i hope so?

[LyricalRico]

But my question is, its august? are we trading mahinmi> ? i hope so?

Well, the market has already been set with other deals (Nicholson, Mozgov, Crabbe) that dumping 2016 contracts requires assets and the most you're going to get in return is an expiring deal. And it seems like those types of deals have already happened for this offseason.

Looking down the road, if he stays healthy and is at least somewhat effective defensively all year, then maybe there's a market for him next summer if/when the league turns upside down with stars switching teams.

[gambitx777]

But my question is, its august? are we trading mahinmi> ? i hope so?

Well, the market has already been set with other deals (Nicholson, Mozgov, Crabbe) that dumping 2016 contracts requires assets and the most you're going to get in return is an expiring deal. And it seems like those types of deals have already happened for this offseason.

Looking down the road, if he stays healthy and is at least somewhat effective defensively all year, then maybe there's a market for him next summer if/when the league turns upside down with stars switching teams.

I don't really agree with that too much. Crabe didn't take a pick to move I don't think? I also think that mahinmi is more useful than all 3 of those guys you mentioned with healthy. But, I would like to get rid of him and get someone more healthy in.

[queridiculo]

The Crabbe Nets situation is unique in that Brooklyn basically gave Crabe the deal he's currently on with their offer sheet last year.

It stands to reason that they are still high enough on him to look past the numbers.

I doubt you'd be able to find a team that feels the same way about soon to be 31 year old Ian Mahinmi.

[LyricalRico]

The Crabbe Nets situation is unique in that Brooklyn basically gave Crabe the deal he's currently on with their offer sheet last year.

It stands to reason that they are still high enough on him to look past the numbers.

I doubt you'd be able to find a team that feels the same way about soon to be 31 year old Ian Mahinmi.

This. Maybe I was wrong to group Crabbe in with those others, but the point still remains - there isn't a market for Mahinmi. Maybe next summer if he has a healthy/productive year, but not now IMO.

[payitforward]

There isn't a market, & anyway I don't think Ernie is looking to trade him. If he got a return for Mahinmi that people were critical of, he'd be confirming that the signing was a mistake in the first place. Ernie never -- & I do mean NEVER -- does anything that admits of a mistake.

[verbal8]

There isn't a market, & anyway I don't think Ernie is looking to trade him. If he got a return for Mahinmi that people were critical of, he'd be confirming that the signing was a mistake in the first place. Ernie never -- & I do mean NEVER -- does anything that admits of a mistake.

He did use a pick to dump Nicholson pretty soon after signing him.

[truwizfan4evr]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

[dangermouse]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

Trump is more likely to spend a weekend at the White House than McCullough ever playing meaningful minutes on an NBA team.

[pcbothwel]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

Some people here like him, some dont. Truth is, none of us really know.
He did well in the D-League last year, but didnt play any minutes for us. He looked average at best in the summer league, but I hate using the summer league as a barometer.
Im sure Scott will get him some minutes after the first 10-15 games, but he'll really need to show something in practice as we have 3 guys ahead of him at both PF (Morris, Scott, Otto) and C (Ian, Gortat, Smith)

[montestewart]

There isn't a market, & anyway I don't think Ernie is looking to trade him. If he got a return for Mahinmi that people were critical of, he'd be confirming that the signing was a mistake in the first place. Ernie never -- & I do mean NEVER -- does anything that admits of a mistake.

He did use a pick to dump Nicholson pretty soon after signing him.

That was no admission of error! When you're a Mike Miller away from the title, you've got to (in the words of Orrin Hatch) shoot your wad. Bog-Daddy was just such a player, bringing the hot outside shooting that wins championships, well worth a pick and a prospect.

[payitforward]

There isn't a market, & anyway I don't think Ernie is looking to trade him. If he got a return for Mahinmi that people were critical of, he'd be confirming that the signing was a mistake in the first place. Ernie never -- & I do mean NEVER -- does anything that admits of a mistake.

He did use a pick to dump Nicholson pretty soon after signing him.

No, he traded *for* Bogdanovic -- i.e. that was the stated purpose of the trade. While stating that Bogs was going to be part of our future (I doubt that was ever the intention).

The valueless Thornton was included from our side & the valueless McCullough from the Nets' side so that Ernie could claim that McCullough somehow stood in for the R1 pick he was forced to waste.

[payitforward]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

Some people here like him, some dont. Truth is, none of us really know.
He did well in the D-League last year, but didnt play any minutes for us. He looked average at best in the summer league, but I hate using the summer league as a barometer.
Im sure Scott will get him some minutes after the first 10-15 games, but he'll really need to show something in practice as we have 3 guys ahead of him at both PF (Morris, Scott, Otto) and C (Ian, Gortat, Smith)

What does "really know" mean?

McCullough played for 2 D-League teams last year. I wouldn't say he "did well" for either team. He posted a relatively low TS% (vs. D-League defense too...). For LI he played 900+ minutes; per 40 minutes, it took him 19.4 shots to register 18.6 points, & he shot 67% from the line. He also didn't rebound. When we sent him to AZ, he shot a little better (not much) & rebounded a little worse.

He's had a long time to show something & hasn't done it.

[Dark Faze]

Would you guys do Kieff, Gortat and a 1st for DeAndre Jordan?

[pcbothwel]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

Some people here like him, some dont. Truth is, none of us really know.
He did well in the D-League last year, but didnt play any minutes for us. He looked average at best in the summer league, but I hate using the summer league as a barometer.
Im sure Scott will get him some minutes after the first 10-15 games, but he'll really need to show something in practice as we have 3 guys ahead of him at both PF (Morris, Scott, Otto) and C (Ian, Gortat, Smith)

What does "really know" mean?

McCullough played for 2 D-League teams last year. I wouldn't say he "did well" for either team. He posted a relatively low TS% (vs. D-League defense too...). For LI he played 900+ minutes; per 40 minutes, it took him 19.4 shots to register 18.6 points, & he shot 67% from the line. He also didn't rebound. When we sent him to AZ, he shot a little better (not much) & rebounded a little worse.

He's had a long time to show something & hasn't done it.

The guy might very well be out of the league after this year. But he is 22 and came out of college as a raw freshman player coming off an ACL tear. I really wouldnt say he has had a "long time to show something".
i wont waste my time listing players all the players who became really solid players after being unplayable at 23 and under.. but its a lot.

[jivelikenice]

I would be stunned if they picked up McCullough's option. Given that and wha he should in SL, there's no reason to keep him imo. See if a young team with space will just take him or cut him and use that spot on one of the capable vets still out there.

[NatP4]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

honestly the worst basketball player I have ever seen in my life. He makes Burke and Jennings look like NBA players

he doesn't have any basketball skills or feel for the game. That last summer league game was hilarious, he spent the entire 40 minutes disgracing the sport of basketball.

[Ruzious]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

Some people here like him, some dont. Truth is, none of us really know.
He did well in the D-League last year, but didnt play any minutes for us. He looked average at best in the summer league, but I hate using the summer league as a barometer.
Im sure Scott will get him some minutes after the first 10-15 games, but he'll really need to show something in practice as we have 3 guys ahead of him at both PF (Morris, Scott, Otto) and C (Ian, Gortat, Smith)

We're 99% sure about McCullough, and he did NOT do well in the D League last season. I do agree with your comments about the SL.

[Dat2U]

Some people here like him, some dont. Truth is, none of us really know.
He did well in the D-League last year, but didnt play any minutes for us. He looked average at best in the summer league, but I hate using the summer league as a barometer.
Im sure Scott will get him some minutes after the first 10-15 games, but he'll really need to show something in practice as we have 3 guys ahead of him at both PF (Morris, Scott, Otto) and C (Ian, Gortat, Smith)

What does "really know" mean?

McCullough played for 2 D-League teams last year. I wouldn't say he "did well" for either team. He posted a relatively low TS% (vs. D-League defense too...). For LI he played 900+ minutes; per 40 minutes, it took him 19.4 shots to register 18.6 points, & he shot 67% from the line. He also didn't rebound. When we sent him to AZ, he shot a little better (not much) & rebounded a little worse.

He's had a long time to show something & hasn't done it.

The guy might very well be out of the league after this year. But he is 22 and came out of college as a raw freshman player coming off an ACL tear. I really wouldnt say he has had a "long time to show something".
i wont waste my time listing players all the players who became really solid players after being unplayable at 23 and under.. but its a lot.

Usually a guy will show you something. A sign... a moment where they put it all together and flash some high level ability. Other than the fact he occasionally wears a basketball uniform and steps out on the court, I can't tell McCullough is a professional player.

I know we want to have hope and leave open the chance that he may become something but he's given us nothing to hold onto. Even busts like Kwame, McGee & Blatche would show they could have a good game here and there. There were even moments where you thought Vesely might carve out a role in the league. I get none of that from McCullough. There's no skill. No eye-popping athleticism, no sign of McCullough flying around the court trying to make things happen. I see a skinny guy with minimal skill who is stuck on the perimeter b/c there's no way on heck he can bang with anyone down low. Worst part of all is he looks like he doesn't have a clue of how to play the game either. We could cut him during SL and I wouldn't have blinked an eye.

I'm sure there's some 22 yr old guy or younger in the D-League that can provide more upside than McCullough.

[nate33]

How far away is Chris McCullough from being a rotation player for the wizards?

honestly the worst basketball player I have ever seen in my life. He makes Burke and Jennings look like NBA players

he doesn't have any basketball skills or feel for the game. That last summer league game was hilarious, he spent the entire 40 minutes disgracing the sport of basketball.