Butler has requested a trade, the saga continues

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Haha. No chill

Can imagine Butler screaming at Porzingis and Hardaway "you are soft"

[Neal25]

The situation is absolutely ludicrous. Taylor in order to saving a couple of millions sacking Thibodeau is devaluating the franchise even lower than Kings. Butler with his childish and selfish attitude has left Towns and Wiggins exposed like guys who don´t care about the team and the game, and more important, like guys who are not a leader.

This franchise needs a refurbishment from the scratch, fire Thibodeau, trade Butler and look for new shareholders.

[moss_is_1]

Jimmy is quickly becoming my least favorite player. I mean in what world is this behavior okay? Can you imagine being around someone who acts like this? He's hurting the team on purpose now and this is also on Thibs for letting this happen.
It's all such a mess.

At the same time... I want this team to win and he's right, we can't win without him.

I honestly don't know what to expect next in this soap opera.

What are we gonna win with him?

[walk with me]

All you enablers is exactly why Wiggins and Kat will never reach their full potential.

Imagine if this was KG, Kobe or Jordan. You maniacs would be saying cut him loose because he’s too mean . I dont want to hear it’s different cause they’re better. Jimmy is our jordan/kg/Kobe, no jimmy = lottery for sure and a horrifically ugly season, w/jimmy 3rd or 4th seed. Maybe even 2 with some good luck. Maybe even a conference finals with some good luck....

Basketball isn’t ymca little league, we’re dealing with grown men who are millionaires and it’s THEIR JOB! Not something they do for fun. They aren’t friends either and don’t have to be.

Wiggins goes home and chills with the people he grew up with
Kat goes home and chills with the people he grew up with
Jimmy goes home and chills with the people he grew up with

This isn’t high school basketball, it’s not even college. It’s the pros. Stop treating Kat and wiggins like babies. Otherwise they’ll stay babies.

Thibs, layden arent devaluing anything either you bozos. The trade offers suck, should the team accept a junk trade just cause you clowns are embarrassed lmao. Then proceed to stink all year to save face. You guys are all wayyyyy too emotional and care about things that don’t mean anything. 13 years of losing has made some of you demented. This is the best thing that could happen to Kat and Wiggins in their career. Just like when embiid roasted kat on ig and he played really well the next month.

babying him like an over protective mother will be exactly why he will end up over rated for the extension of his contract and why he’ll leave once he realizes he’s not a franchise player and teams up with some young guys somewhere else. Kat already quietly has the rep of not being a winner. You think putting blinders over his eye to protect him from people calling him a loser will make him better??

[Norseman79]

There are certain character traits that are part of your genetic code, you can learn certain behaviors, but some times it just isn't there. The criticism of Kat or Wigg for being "soft", is an example. They are the same people they have been for years, college too. You can change and improve players in some ways, but what's inside is there. People that seem shocked over this now had better not have been excited when we drafted Kat or traded for Wiggins, because if you knew your head from you a**, you would have known this is who they are.

[Worm Guts]

There are certain character traits that are part of your genetic code, you can learn certain behaviors, but some times it just isn't there. The criticism of Kat or Wigg for being "soft", is an example. They are the same people they have been for years, college too. You can change and improve players in some ways, but what's inside is there. People that seem shocked over this now had better not have been excited when we drafted Kat or traded for Wiggins, because if you knew your head from you a**, you would have known this is who they are.

I'm not really sure why you expect fans to have great insights into a players personality before they were drafted.

[zero2hero]

There are certain character traits that are part of your genetic code, you can learn certain behaviors, but some times it just isn't there. The criticism of Kat or Wigg for being "soft", is an example. They are the same people they have been for years, college too. You can change and improve players in some ways, but what's inside is there. People that seem shocked over this now had better not have been excited when we drafted Kat or traded for Wiggins, because if you knew your head from you a**, you would have known this is who they are.

I don't think that's fair to say from a fan's perspective, since we don't actually interact with these players personally. However, it is completely fair to criticize the people who are in charge, as they're the ones who are supposed to know their players personality types and how to put them in the best position to succeed.

[mplsfonz23]

Imagine if this was KG, Kobe or Jordan. You maniacs would be saying cut him loose because he’s too mean

Yeah, but you fail to mention, those players actually WON titles before age 30 (KG Close) and they are HOF'ers.
What the F has Jimmy done except split locker rooms?

[Norseman79]

It isn't fair? Why not? What you are talking about are casual fans, right? Because any person who is a legit fan would do some research on the players and see who it is we are targetting right? By legit fan, I would mean people who are outraged at the softness of Wiggins and Towns, these people obviously were well informed.

[Norseman79]

There are certain character traits that are part of your genetic code, you can learn certain behaviors, but some times it just isn't there. The criticism of Kat or Wigg for being "soft", is an example. They are the same people they have been for years, college too. You can change and improve players in some ways, but what's inside is there. People that seem shocked over this now had better not have been excited when we drafted Kat or traded for Wiggins, because if you knew your head from you a**, you would have known this is who they are.

I'm not really sure why you expect fans to have great insights into a players personality before they were drafted.

Again, you are talking about casual fans right? Speaking for myself, the second the Wolves add a new player I am watching and reading all I can on them. Of course, that gives me a right to have an opinion on them....

[Norseman79]

There are certain character traits that are part of your genetic code, you can learn certain behaviors, but some times it just isn't there. The criticism of Kat or Wigg for being "soft", is an example. They are the same people they have been for years, college too. You can change and improve players in some ways, but what's inside is there. People that seem shocked over this now had better not have been excited when we drafted Kat or traded for Wiggins, because if you knew your head from you a**, you would have known this is who they are.

I don't think that's fair to say from a fan's perspective, since we don't actually interact with these players personally. However, it is completely fair to criticize the people who are in charge, as they're the ones who are supposed to know their players personality types and how to put them in the best position to succeed.

So, if we don't interact with them, how do we know that Wiggins or Towns are what Butler says they are? If people are going to have opinions they should seek information and learn before they voice them.

[walk with me]

Imagine if this was KG, Kobe or Jordan. You maniacs would be saying cut him loose because he’s too mean

Yeah, but you fail to mention, those players actually WON titles before age 30 (KG Close) and they are HOF'ers.
What the F has Jimmy done except split locker rooms?

What’s a title have anything to do with it? Give jimmy a prime version of shaq or Paul piece and Ray Allen kind of squad and jimmy would be in the mix for a ring.

Jimmy won like 20 extra games for this team and got stone walled by Lebron cheat super teams. That makes him less of a man? The focus doesn’t need to be on jimmy anyways honestly.

What does this franchise want?

Minnesota Twolves team led by 2 heartless immature (on the court) players that consistently lose games
or
Minnesota Twolves team led by 3 players who aren’t the best of friends but fight every night for the 3rd seed

Neither is wrong I guess but I personally don’t like losing, some of you are probably different.

[mplsfonz23]

Lets put this out there.....Jimmy says he wanted to feel needed right?

It goes way beyond basketball. Here's why.
At 13.....13 years old he was kicked out by his own Mother. He bounced around until he was a senior in HS, and was taken in by a family friend because she was a "loving" person.

He feels as if he's entitled to call them "soft" because they had "loving" parents. That sounds like a person who has resentment towards the new kind of players coming up. Lots of players that are talented are "soft." They never had to go homeless because their parents took care of business. Sorry he got treated so bad by his mother, but that seems to be a pattern with JB. Thibs made him feel "wanted," and look where that got him now.

He should try to challenge them in practice and the locker room instead of calling a "look at me" interview with ESPN.
At this point, we need to suspend him from the facility, and wait until a trade is proposed that is acceptable. Tell Jimmy, any more outburst and fines are coming. Prick Diva. I said it!

[mplsfonz23]

Imagine if this was KG, Kobe or Jordan. You maniacs would be saying cut him loose because he’s too mean

Yeah, but you fail to mention, those players actually WON titles before age 30 (KG Close) and they are HOF'ers.
What the F has Jimmy done except split locker rooms?

What’s a title have anything to do with it? Give jimmy a prime version of shaq or Paul piece and Ray Allen kind of squad and jimmy would be in the mix for a ring.

Jimmy won like 20 extra games for this team and got stone walled by Lebron cheat super teams. That makes him less of a man? The focus doesn’t need to be on jimmy anyways honestly.

What does this franchise want?

Minnesota Twolves team led by 2 heartless immature (on the court) players that consistently lose games
or
Minnesota Twolves team led by 3 players who aren’t the best of friends but fight every night for the 3rd seed

Neither is wrong I guess but I personally don’t like losing, some of you are probably different.

Nobody likes losing. Where did this come from? How "mature" are you supposed to be at 22? How mature was Jimmy at 22?

Point is, those guys mentioned are hall of fame players with or without rings. Stats alone make sure of that. And how many of them went CRYING to the MEDIA about teammates?

Face it, Jimmy is a ME FIRST player with an IMATURE personality that needs EVERYBODY to do as he does or they are lazy. He was a FOUR year player that started on a JUCO team. He was drafted last at age 22. Wiggins and Towns have BOTH accomplished more at 22 and has shown more MATURITY than he is at 29. Lets give them SEVEN more years and see where they are at. Again, Jimmy is a me first player with an overinflated value of himself. ESPN that!

[mplsfonz23]

There are certain character traits that are part of your genetic code, you can learn certain behaviors, but some times it just isn't there. The criticism of Kat or Wigg for being "soft", is an example. They are the same people they have been for years, college too. You can change and improve players in some ways, but what's inside is there. People that seem shocked over this now had better not have been excited when we drafted Kat or traded for Wiggins, because if you knew your head from you a**, you would have known this is who they are.

I'm not really sure why you expect fans to have great insights into a players personality before they were drafted.

Again, you are talking about casual fans right? Speaking for myself, the second the Wolves add a new player I am watching and reading all I can on them. Of course, that gives me a right to have an opinion on them....

The same "opinion" that Thibs had about Butler as he shat on him for two years?

[shrink]

Jimmy could set a group of orphans on fire and stomp them out in the middle of the Target Center and there would still be posters in here making excuses for him

If he did it with more heart than Wiggins.

[Macwolf527]

I took some time to think about everything that went down and I believe Jimmy wanted to make a point, but just went about it the wrong way. I especially did not like the fact that he only went to a portion of the practice, then did an interview with ESPN. Thibs is at fault for letting this happen. Everything Jimmy is dealing with is personal and should not be brought into the team environment. I was all for him challenging his teammates in practice, but it was under the assumption that he was part of the entire practice session and not some one man show. That's unacceptable in my opinion because he's placing himself above the team and that is an absolute NO-NO in a team game.

However, I will give him a pass and chalk it up to emotion if his behavior changes and he get's in line with the expectations placed on the entire team. If not, then he's an adversity to the locker room and the culture of the team and needs to be at home until a trade can be made

[shrink]

What, Jimmy wasn’t traded to the Clippers last night?

I have to admit, I’m beginning to lose my confidence in Source (H).

[walk with me]

Yeah, but you fail to mention, those players actually WON titles before age 30 (KG Close) and they are HOF'ers.
What the F has Jimmy done except split locker rooms?

What’s a title have anything to do with it? Give jimmy a prime version of shaq or Paul piece and Ray Allen kind of squad and jimmy would be in the mix for a ring.

Jimmy won like 20 extra games for this team and got stone walled by Lebron cheat super teams. That makes him less of a man? The focus doesn’t need to be on jimmy anyways honestly.

What does this franchise want?

Minnesota Twolves team led by 2 heartless immature (on the court) players that consistently lose games
or
Minnesota Twolves team led by 3 players who aren’t the best of friends but fight every night for the 3rd seed

Neither is wrong I guess but I personally don’t like losing, some of you are probably different.

Nobody likes losing. Where did this come from? How "mature" are you supposed to be at 22? How mature was Jimmy at 22?

Point is, those guys mentioned are hall of fame players with or without rings. Stats alone make sure of that. And how many of them went CRYING to the MEDIA about teammates?

Face it, Jimmy is a ME FIRST player with an IMATURE personality that needs EVERYBODY to do as he does or they are lazy. He was a FOUR year player that started on a JUCO team. He was drafted last at age 22. Wiggins and Towns have BOTH accomplished more at 22 and has shown more MATURITY than he is at 29. Lets give them SEVEN more years and see where they are at. Again, Jimmy is a me first player with an overinflated value of himself. ESPN that!

Kat and Wiggins had the same question marks before jimmy came along. This isn’t new.... Wiggins was drafted as a dude that potentially had a low motor. Kat was called an empty stats guy since season 1 by some and i know cause i defended Kat when people would say jokic is better. This isn’t anything new or shocking. What’s different is finally there’s someone in the lockeroom that is holding them for WHAT THEYRE SUPPOSED TO BE vs WHAT THEY ARE and actually challenging them to be what they’re supposed to be vs making a million excuses for them while they fail.

Kat and Wiggins also has achieved more than embiid, Tatum, Donovan Mitchell, ben Simmons, Giannis Antekounmpo at the points of when they were drafted yet all the guys I listed don’t have the same question marks or excuses that Kat and Wiggins still do.

Jimmy revealed the truth to you and you just don’t like it so you’re still ignoring it.

[KG_Wolves]

Yeah, but you fail to mention, those players actually WON titles before age 30 (KG Close) and they are HOF'ers.
What the F has Jimmy done except split locker rooms?

What’s a title have anything to do with it? Give jimmy a prime version of shaq or Paul piece and Ray Allen kind of squad and jimmy would be in the mix for a ring.

Jimmy won like 20 extra games for this team and got stone walled by Lebron cheat super teams. That makes him less of a man? The focus doesn’t need to be on jimmy anyways honestly.

What does this franchise want?

Minnesota Twolves team led by 2 heartless immature (on the court) players that consistently lose games
or
Minnesota Twolves team led by 3 players who aren’t the best of friends but fight every night for the 3rd seed

Neither is wrong I guess but I personally don’t like losing, some of you are probably different.

Nobody likes losing. Where did this come from? How "mature" are you supposed to be at 22? How mature was Jimmy at 22?

Point is, those guys mentioned are hall of fame players with or without rings. Stats alone make sure of that. And how many of them went CRYING to the MEDIA about teammates?

Face it, Jimmy is a ME FIRST player with an IMATURE personality that needs EVERYBODY to do as he does or they are lazy. He was a FOUR year player that started on a JUCO team. He was drafted last at age 22. Wiggins and Towns have BOTH accomplished more at 22 and has shown more MATURITY than he is at 29. Lets give them SEVEN more years and see where they are at. Again, Jimmy is a me first player with an overinflated value of himself. ESPN that!

I don't care if he has actual mental issues, he wins.

And thats more than can be said of our **** franchise