Rookie Play, Highlights & Discussion

tarantism · Post #261 » by **tarantism** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:38 pm

I was most impressed with Wiseman's movement and fluidity with the ball in his hands, and how smooth the jump shot was. He was obviously gunning in garbage time but he played aggressive the whole game. He looks like the sketch of what will be a dominant player once the game slows down and he gets a little less rough around the edges.

DroseReturnChi · Post #262 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:41 am

Ducklett wrote:
LibertyPrime wrote:Wiseman for 19 and 6 in his debut game.

I knew it, I just f'ing knew it.....

He scored 11 of those 19 points against the 3rd stringers while down 20 points. I don't know how excited I would get over that.

yep the hype has already begun. his jumper looks good, but if his jumper doesnt fall, he is hassan whiteside as of now.

Roger Murdock · Post #263 » by **Roger Murdock** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:38 am

Okoro was great today. Really strong defense and picked his spots well, moved off ball and passed great.
11 points (3/3 finishing at rim, 1/2 on 3s, 2/2 from FT)
3 rebounds
5 assists (some great passes too)

FinnTheHuman · Post #264 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:44 am

LibertyPrime wrote:Wiseman for 19 and 6 in his debut game.

I knew it, I just f'ing knew it.....

Bet you didn’t know Ant was gonna have an even better game, and against the actual rotation players. Smh at these posts

DroseReturnChi · Post #265 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:59 am

Roger Murdock wrote:Okoro was great today. Really strong defense and picked his spots well, moved off ball and passed great.
11 points (3/3 finishing at rim, 1/2 on 3s, 2/2 from FT)
3 rebounds
5 assists (some great passes too)

Very good but one gripe is he is not much of offense player. Needs to take at least 10 shots even though he is a great two way wing.
His season will be determined on 3ball.

The411 · Post #266 » by **The411** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:10 am

FinnTheHuman wrote:
LibertyPrime wrote:Wiseman for 19 and 6 in his debut game.

I knew it, I just f'ing knew it.....

Bet you didn’t know Ant was gonna have an even better game, and against the actual rotation players. Smh at these posts

Wiseman is a far superior shooter. Edwards’s jumper looks terrible.

Jkam31 · Post #267 » by **Jkam31** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:11 am

A bigger Bosh y’all something else

Patsfan1081 · Post #268 » by **Patsfan1081** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:23 am

So how many points tonight did all the rookies that had threads made about them have? Quickley 5......Flynn 1....

DroseReturnChi · Post #269 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:28 am

Pwilliams posting another efficient 16pts/4/1/1 statsheet while 5/6 fts.
Deni/Okoro probably out of ROY race if they keep taking less than 5 shots per game.

theGreatRC · Post #270 » by **theGreatRC** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:29 am

Ant-Man with 15/4/4 off the bench

HiRez · Post #271 » by **HiRez** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:30 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:Okoro was great today. Really strong defense and picked his spots well, moved off ball and passed great.
11 points (3/3 finishing at rim, 1/2 on 3s, 2/2 from FT)
3 rebounds
5 assists (some great passes too)

Very good but one gripe is he is not much of offense player. Needs to take at least 10 shots even though he is a great two way wing.
His season will be determined on 3ball.

So far he's also a pretty poor rebounder for his size, strength, and athleticism. 3 rebounds tonight in 34 minutes isn't great. In preseason, he played 110 minutes and had 7 rebounds. SEVEN. That's 1 rebound every 16 minutes, quite horrible for any player regardless of size or position.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Okoro a lot, I think he could be great, but he has to get a mindset to go after boards.

BugginOut · Post #272 » by **BugginOut** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:45 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:So how many points tonight did all the rookies that had threads made about them have? Quickley 5......Flynn 1....

Quickley got hurt in the 1st half, but the Knicks were looking so much better when he was playing. As soon as he went down we fell off a cliff.

Post #273 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:17 am

HiRez wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:Okoro was great today. Really strong defense and picked his spots well, moved off ball and passed great.
11 points (3/3 finishing at rim, 1/2 on 3s, 2/2 from FT)
3 rebounds
5 assists (some great passes too)

Very good but one gripe is he is not much of offense player. Needs to take at least 10 shots even though he is a great two way wing.
His season will be determined on 3ball.

So far he's also a pretty poor rebounder for his size, strength, and athleticism. 3 rebounds tonight in 34 minutes isn't great. In preseason, he played 110 minutes and had 7 rebounds. SEVEN. That's 1 rebound every 16 minutes, quite horrible for any player regardless of size or position.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Okoro a lot, I think he could be great, but he has to get a mindset to go after boards.

On a team with Andre Drummond, Kevin Love, and Larry Nance Jr we're really concerned with his lack of boards? He's likely on the floor with one of those three anytime he's out there I don't know how much of a red flag we're really looking at here.

Clocian · Post #274 » by **Clocian** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:24 am

Watch on YouTube

Great debut by Pat tonight. Did a little of everything.

Braggins · Post #275 » by **Braggins** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:10 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:So how many points tonight did all the rookies that had threads made about them have? Quickley 5......Flynn 1....

0/1/3 line for Ball...

cool007 · Post #276 » by **cool007** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:19 am

1 thing I like to see is which Rookie has the all-star potential and shows what they can do to be just that. I have seen Bulls rookies like Carter and Markkanen look good to be rookies but I never thought they would be stars.

However, this Pat Williams kid even one of the youngest rookies this year, already showing nice star player level moves which is a big plus and his defense is really really good for a 19 year old. I can say that right now - even as a rookie, he might become Bulls' best 2-way player.

Post #277 » by **Klomp** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:24 am

theGreatRC wrote:Ant-Man with 15/4/4 off the bench

Watch on YouTube

JonFromVA · Post #278 » by **JonFromVA** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:49 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:Okoro was great today. Really strong defense and picked his spots well, moved off ball and passed great.
11 points (3/3 finishing at rim, 1/2 on 3s, 2/2 from FT)
3 rebounds
5 assists (some great passes too)

Very good but one gripe is he is not much of offense player. Needs to take at least 10 shots even though he is a great two way wing.
His season will be determined on 3ball.

It's nice to see a player able/willing to just play within the flow of the offense. His willingness to surrender his own shot to get an even more open look for a shooter like Garland is potentially big for both of them.

Personally, I won't be watching his shot attempts, I'll be watching his +/-. He was the top Cavs starter with +7, tonight.

JonFromVA · Post #279 » by **JonFromVA** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:56 am

Marcus wrote:
HiRez wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:Very good but one gripe is he is not much of offense player. Needs to take at least 10 shots even though he is a great two way wing.
His season will be determined on 3ball.

So far he's also a pretty poor rebounder for his size, strength, and athleticism. 3 rebounds tonight in 34 minutes isn't great. In preseason, he played 110 minutes and had 7 rebounds. SEVEN. That's 1 rebound every 16 minutes, quite horrible for any player regardless of size or position.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Okoro a lot, I think he could be great, but he has to get a mindset to go after boards.

On a team with Andre Drummond, Kevin Love, and Larry Nance Jr we're really concerned with his lack of boards? He's likely on the floor with one of those three anytime he's out there I don't know how much of a red flag we're really looking at here.

Yep... the Cavs outrebounded the Charlotte by something like 50 to 34 (without Love), so there doesn't appear to be a problem - especially as long as Isaac is doing things like getting back on D, running the floor, and making sure his man doesn't grab a board.

ItsDanger · Post #280 » by **ItsDanger** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:47 am

Patrick Williams needs more hype. His offensive game looks so polished for his age.

Who are your top 3?