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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#261 » by step » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:28 am

Jimmy Forums wrote:KD is in control. If he doesn’t want to go to a team, they won’t trade for him. He also likely has a NTC.

I could not locate anything about any NTC from the usual sources.

The Athletic reports there is no clause:
Durant has four years left on his contract and doesn't have a no-trade clause, so Brooklyn, if it wanted to, could trade him to any team it chose despite him making his list of preferred destinations known.

https://theathletic.com/3393538/2022/06/30/kevin-durant-trade-nets-hawks/
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#262 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:51 am

Do the Bulls have the assets to trade for Durant and Gobert?

Think we're missing some 1st rounders probably.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#263 » by The Box Office » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:35 am

Let's gather the facts:

- Kevin Durant officially wants out of Brooklyn. Demands a trade.

- List of star players KD cannot be traded for with Ben Simmons on the Nets roster:
Devin Booker
Bam Adebayo
Donovan Mitchell
Karl Anthony Towns
Jamal Murray
Michael Porter, Jr.
Andrew Wiggins
De'Aaron Fox
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Trae Young
Jayson Tatum
Joel Embiid

- Kevin Durant does NOT have a NO TRADE CLAUSE meaning Brooklyn can trade him anywhere they want. Kevin Durant has no power.
[END OF FACTS]

[START OF UNCONFIRMED ITEM]

- Kevin Durant supposedly cannot be traded for DeAndre Ayton or Jaylen Brown.

[END OF UNCONFIRMED ITEM]

This is what I gathered.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#264 » by Wingy » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:39 am

The Box Office wrote:- List of star players KD cannot be traded for with Ben Simmons on the Nets roster


What does that even mean? I know a few are about to sign max extensions, but otherwise I don’t follow.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#265 » by The Box Office » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:43 am

Wingy wrote:
The Box Office wrote:- List of star players KD cannot be traded for with Ben Simmons on the Nets roster


What does that even mean? I know a few are about to sign max extensions, but otherwise I don’t follow.


It's all in here regarding Ben Simmons. He handcuffed the Nets.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-how-the-designated-rookie-rule-will-limit-who-the-nets-can-deal-for/
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#266 » by Wingy » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:49 am

The Box Office wrote:
Wingy wrote:
The Box Office wrote:- List of star players KD cannot be traded for with Ben Simmons on the Nets roster


What does that even mean? I know a few are about to sign max extensions, but otherwise I don’t follow.


It's all in here regarding Ben Simmons. He handcuffed the Nets.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-how-the-designated-rookie-rule-will-limit-who-the-nets-can-deal-for/


Ah, gotcha, thanks. I do remember that back to Boston/AD/Kyrie. Seems like a pretty dumb, arbitrary rule.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#267 » by Michael Jackson » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:05 am

Wingy wrote:
The Box Office wrote:
Wingy wrote:
What does that even mean? I know a few are about to sign max extensions, but otherwise I don’t follow.


It's all in here regarding Ben Simmons. He handcuffed the Nets.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-how-the-designated-rookie-rule-will-limit-who-the-nets-can-deal-for/


Ah, gotcha, thanks. I do remember that back to Boston/AD/Kyrie. Seems like a pretty dumb, arbitrary rule.



Yeah the designated rookie contract is strange. I get the idea was to not stack too many guys on a team..l but there are bigger issues than that like actual,tampering and players forcing their way out.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#268 » by R3AL1TY » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:28 am

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R3AL1TY wrote:Brooklyn went from being contenders these past couple years to nothing but turmoil now. I wonder what suddenly pissed KD off?



It has to be the Kyrie drama right? KD wants out right after Kyrie opts in? It sounds like he doesn't want to play with Kyrie.

I'm beginning to think Brooklyn informed KD they are not going to keep Kyrie due to his drama and they are going to trade him during the season. And because of this, KD is ready to jump ship to pursue a championship elsewhere.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#269 » by nitetrain8603 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:57 am

dukeespn wrote:The Nets can't tank because they already traded away their own FRPs to get KD. So they gonna compete to make the playoffs at least.

DDR can lead the Nets to the playoffs. He always struggled in the playoffs but at least he can hoop in the regular season.

Trade DDR and everything Bulls can offer to get KD. If AKME really want to make a real contender DDR is not the guy you can count on. He never showed up in the playoffs. Trade him for a real super star or trade him for future assets.


I do not get this line of thinking. The way they rebuilt after the Celtics deal was by obtaining as many picks and young players as possible. There is no path forward other than acquiring young players and picks. Every team that has lost a star has gone through this. I don't know why the Nets are special and the line of thinking is "we have to make the playoffs".
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#270 » by Tetlak » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:02 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:
dukeespn wrote:The Nets can't tank because they already traded away their own FRPs to get KD. So they gonna compete to make the playoffs at least.

DDR can lead the Nets to the playoffs. He always struggled in the playoffs but at least he can hoop in the regular season.

Trade DDR and everything Bulls can offer to get KD. If AKME really want to make a real contender DDR is not the guy you can count on. He never showed up in the playoffs. Trade him for a real super star or trade him for future assets.


I do not get this line of thinking. The way they rebuilt after the Celtics deal was by obtaining as many picks and young players as possible. There is no path forward other than acquiring young players and picks. Every team that has lost a star has gone through this. I don't know why the Nets are special and the line of thinking is "we have to make the playoffs".


There is literally not a single applicable reason for them to tank.

There is zero benefit to it for them.

If they do get picks, then their record won't even influence said picks.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#271 » by BullChit » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:02 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:
dukeespn wrote:The Nets can't tank because they already traded away their own FRPs to get KD. So they gonna compete to make the playoffs at least.

DDR can lead the Nets to the playoffs. He always struggled in the playoffs but at least he can hoop in the regular season.

Trade DDR and everything Bulls can offer to get KD. If AKME really want to make a real contender DDR is not the guy you can count on. He never showed up in the playoffs. Trade him for a real super star or trade him for future assets.


I do not get this line of thinking. The way they rebuilt after the Celtics deal was by obtaining as many picks and young players as possible. There is no path forward other than acquiring young players and picks. Every team that has lost a star has gone through this. I don't know why the Nets are special and the line of thinking is "we have to make the playoffs".


The one angle on this I heard earlier today that I can't verify is that after some of the contracts and financial moves the Nets organisation has made in the past few years they need to be competitive and make the play offs to try and make some money back.

Again just something I heard that was interesting...

I mean they have been flying pretty close to the sun for about a decade now with not much to show for it.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#272 » by nitetrain8603 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:06 pm

Tetlak wrote:
nitetrain8603 wrote:
dukeespn wrote:The Nets can't tank because they already traded away their own FRPs to get KD. So they gonna compete to make the playoffs at least.

DDR can lead the Nets to the playoffs. He always struggled in the playoffs but at least he can hoop in the regular season.

Trade DDR and everything Bulls can offer to get KD. If AKME really want to make a real contender DDR is not the guy you can count on. He never showed up in the playoffs. Trade him for a real super star or trade him for future assets.


I do not get this line of thinking. The way they rebuilt after the Celtics deal was by obtaining as many picks and young players as possible. There is no path forward other than acquiring young players and picks. Every team that has lost a star has gone through this. I don't know why the Nets are special and the line of thinking is "we have to make the playoffs".


There is literally not a single applicable reason for them to tank.

There is zero benefit to it for them.

If they do get picks, then their record won't even influence said picks.


I'm not saying actively tank. I'm saying gathering picks from other teams as well as young players. It's why I think the Bulls could offer an ultra competitive package (as well as a few others). They don't need a star. They're handcuffing themselves even more by thinking they need to land one in this trade. They simply need to get young players with great futures. That's how they built themselves up prior to KD+Irving which made them attractive.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#273 » by sco » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:49 pm

erlim wrote:
Jimmy Forums wrote:KD is in control. If he doesn’t want to go to a team, they won’t trade for him. He also likely has a NTC.

Phoenix (Ayton), Miami (Bam), and Boston (Jaylen Brown) can offer better packages than us, but we can offer a good enough package that if KD were to be convinced Chicago was the spot then Brooklyn would feel okay.

The idea is going to be to combine Lavine, Derozan, and Durant because that’s just how things go. You load up stars. Package would be Vucevic, Pat Will, Coby, Dalen Terry, Portland pick, and future picks/swaps. High(ish) level player, high level prospect, talented flyer, fresh hot draft pick, and some much needed draft capital.

We need Zach Lavine to do for us what Derrick Rose refused to do. He’s gotta be on the phone with our guy Kevin TONIGHT.


Supposedly, KD cannot be traded for Ayton, Bam, or Brown.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/voq5ht/list_of_star_players_kd_cannot_be_traded_for_with/

Yeah that rule is nuts. Was watching Windhurst today, he said he's on the PHO train because they have the assets to get a deal done, Bridges, Ayton, plus then control their picks for the next 4 years, so they could do a butt-load of picks/swaps. That said, the Ayton thing would need to involve another team. I could see a team like DET, ATL, NY, IND or OKC getting involved.

The crazy thing is that Kyrie could probably be had for very little. He's such a nut job, but man, if it only cost us Vuc/Coby/Por Pick...
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#274 » by _txchilibowl_ » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:03 pm

You might be able to get Ben Simmons as a salary dump with relatively minor assets attached...and I'd be interested.
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Post#275 » by JordansBulls » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:06 pm

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Post#276 » by Bullflip » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:06 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:You might be able to get Ben Simmons as a salary dump with relatively minor assets attached...and I'd be interested.


I dont know. Is he even going to play? Lol
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Post#277 » by BULLDURF » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:16 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:You might be able to get Ben Simmons as a salary dump with relatively minor assets attached...and I'd be interested.


I was thinking same thing. Vuc and Coby work on trade checker
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#278 » by Michael Jackson » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:17 pm

R3AL1TY wrote:
mlitney01 wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:Brooklyn went from being contenders these past couple years to nothing but turmoil now. I wonder what suddenly pissed KD off?



It has to be the Kyrie drama right? KD wants out right after Kyrie opts in? It sounds like he doesn't want to play with Kyrie.

I'm beginning to think Brooklyn informed KD they are not going to keep Kyrie due to his drama and they are going to trade him during the season. And because of this, KD is ready to jump ship to pursue a championship elsewhere.



If you follow the timeline this makes sense. KD complains that the Nets aren’t listening to Kyrie. Nets played hardball with Kyrie, so Kyrie picks up his option in without telling the team and forces their hand, likely knowing they are trading him and he is going to get the cash. KD and Kyrie wanted the power with the Nets as soon as it became apparent that Marks was done rolling over they are jumping ship.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#279 » by BullChit » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:30 pm

BULLDURF wrote:
_txchilibowl_ wrote:You might be able to get Ben Simmons as a salary dump with relatively minor assets attached...and I'd be interested.


I was thinking same thing. Vuc and Coby work on trade checker


I don't think it would be possible to become a worse 3pt team than we currently are constructed ohh wait no I see Ben Simmons is being floated now... Never mind myyyy mistake.
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Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#280 » by MisterRoy » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:34 pm

Durant still has 4 yrs left on his contract. He will be 34 when the season starts. Let’s not lose sight of that.

I am not saying KD isn’t worth it but it needs to be part of the equation.


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