Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

[david_james]

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We need someone else with this appetite for Jackson to go up and get him. We're not getting #1, we're not getting Ingram and #2, we're not getting Jaylen, #3 and a future pick and we're not getting #4 and Booker. If the rumors are true and he wants a kings ransom from anyone, I really don't think (and I hope) he's not going anywhere. You'd also think that with what he's asking for, Zen Master Triangle over here would realize just what the hell he has.

Last night Phil asked for a lottery pick and two starters. No talk about future picks. I think he can get what he wants from the Celtics, ie 3rd pick, Bradley and Crowder. I will hate Phil for giving up KP for that package.

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Boston may want KP but there is NO SHOT they're giving up Avery Bradley. As a matter of fact, if it comes down to keeping him or IT4, a lot of people in Boston feel they'd sign him and deal Thomas. Oh, and if he's dealing with the Celtics, he damn well better be asking for future picks. If this is a guy that they think would be the #1 pick in this years draft and next years, you ask for the stars and the moon. What's infuriating is that they view him as that guy and STILL are shopping him! I'm going to lose my freaking mind.

[putiger78]

If we did deal with Celtics, price would have to go up for a team in the division. It has to. You can't render yourself unable to compete for six years (we probably won't anyway, but ya know).

[Wolfgang630]

Boston has the best offer. Let's be serious. Boston can offer the most. Yeah, it sucks KP will be in the same division, but if I'm Danny Ainge I pull the trigger. You've seen KP play. You don't know what these other guys will do.

yes but Ainge doesnt do a trade unless he obliterates the other team...

He needs to get over himself or his team will never win a championship. George isn't coming there. Idk what's going on with Butler and there's no guarantee Hayward will come.

[Billy Goat]

Boston has the best offer. Let's be serious. Boston can offer the most. Yeah, it sucks KP will be in the same division, but if I'm Danny Ainge I pull the trigger. You've seen KP play. You don't know what these other guys will do.

yes but Ainge doesnt do a trade unless he obliterates the other team...

He needs to get over himself or his team will never win a championship. George isn't coming there. Idk what's going on with Butler and there's no guarantee Hayward will come.

There's also the possibility that Boston doesnt think KP's that good.

[Wolfgang630]

5-10-WCS -4- KP and Noah

Kings have enough cap space to eat Noah without us taking bad contracts back. Just doesn't seem like enough upside in the picks unless we love love love the draft and have 5-8-10 and WCS

I feel bad for KP if he got traded to the Kings lol. They're about as abysmal as you can get aside from the Knicks. Atleast with the Knicks you're in NY.

yes but Ainge doesnt do a trade unless he obliterates the other team...

He needs to get over himself or his team will never win a championship. George isn't coming there. Idk what's going on with Butler and there's no guarantee Hayward will come.

There's also the possibility that Boston doesnt think KP's that good.

They're interested if they're talking with Phil for a trade. What they're offering is unknown though.

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

pmfj putting his foot down.

This is his house and we're all just living in it.

[sol537]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

Nothing good has ever come out of the Rosen pieces. That they exist itself is a huge red flag in Phil's method of running a team from the front office.

[seren]

Put it this way -- if Phil really intended to trade KP, would he really be negotiating the terms of that deal in the media? Nah.

What do you do when Boston offers exactly what Phil asks?

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No. 'It's not quite what we're looking for at this time.' He's obviously bluffing. He's more annoyed at him and his brother than he is ready to trade him.

I hope you are right. I am very uneasy about the situation. To me, Phil sounded like he is trying to get fans ready for a deal that is already agreed on. I think he is really into Josh Jackson as reported and a deal with most likely Boston is already in place.

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[El Poochio]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

Unless there is already a deal agreed upon, or if Phil knows he is %100 not trading KP

[sol537]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

Unless there is already a deal agreed upon, or if Phil knows he is %100 not trading KP

Fair point, but that doesn't explain his hit pieces on 'Melo... GM 101... even if you hate a guy and want him off your team, you never hurt his trade value. Instead you say things like "Melo is a superstar in this league" "Melo can help any team with his dynamic scoring" "Melo is a future hall of famer who can absolutely help turn a franchise around" etc etc.

[frogfood]

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hahaha

[sol537]

1) #5, #10, WCS for KP + Noah
2) #4 + Booker for KP
3) #4 + Chriss + Bledsoe + future lotto pick for KP + Noah
4) #3 + Brooklyn '18 1st + Brown for KP
5) #2 + Ingram for KP

That Boston deal is the best, although Ainge doesn't seem the type who would give up that much for one player...

[NOOB77]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

Unless there is already a deal agreed upon, or if Phil knows he is %100 not trading KP

If you are not trading him then what is the point of the press conference and the hit piece article?

[Riot Randolph]

I see the media has you kids all bent outta shape again. I'll say it again, the media runs tha board.

[NOOB77]

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hahaha

I dont always like SAS but that was funny and sad at the same time

[Amsterdam]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

Because Phil doesnt want to trade the young man, but if someone offers a kings ransom then KP may go. There is no article in the world, by anyone, that would deter a club for making a huge offer.

What the Celtics would have to give give up would be in the neighborhood of this years and the better of next years pick, plus Crowder or Bradley.
We pick Jackson, move Melo to 4 and select another pick.

Jackson knows what he has and will extract what most pundits would agree was a great haul for New York.

Not to worry though, hopefully PK will get who the boss of bosses is. Phil is no puppet and to be fked with.

[SelbyCobra]

The hardest part about trading KP for me would be having to tell my son.

I can pretty easily work my way through it for myself, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who bonded with one of his children over KP's explosion onto the scene these last two years.

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

Soo the sense im getting is most if not all of you guy's are kp and melo fans more so than you are knick fans.

Its truly sad.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Soo the sense im getting is most if not all of you guy's are kp and melo fans more so than you are knick fans.

Its truly sad.

LOL, coming from the guy who is a bigger Phil fan than a Knicks fan, this is rich.