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Would suck for Lakers if AD would get some season long injuries after giving up that much. Nice to see NOP get some return.

Lakers is going after Kemba Walker next it seems. That would be some 3 big pieces damn.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254227/Lakers-To-Target-Kemba-Walker-In-Free-Agency-Following-Anthony-Davis-Trade-Agreement

Taikuri wrote:Would suck for Lakers if AD would get some season long injuries after giving up that much. Nice to see NOP get some return.

Lakers is going after Kemba Walker next it seems. That would be some 3 big pieces damn.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254227/Lakers-To-Target-Kemba-Walker-In-Free-Agency-Following-Anthony-Davis-Trade-Agreement

Kyrie Irving biuatch ass just backs out of NJ and wants in on the LA Showtime Hollywood drama. Nothing is set in stone just yet.

RastaBull wrote:I like Lonzo and was always hoping he'd get a chance to shine in the league ... didn't feel like that would happen in Chicago.

But Pels could be PERFECT!!!

1) Lonzo has guaranteed buckets at the end of his passes ... ZION!
2) Lonzo and Zion running transition is going to be highlight reel gold
3) Holiday seems to be max efficient as a 2G with a PG that will be heavy on-the-ball

I think Lonzo could grow leaps in bounds in next two years. More concerned with Ingram's fit and progression. Feel like they need some more stretch pieces with Lonzo and Zion ... doesn't seem to be Ingram's role. Alvin Gentry is a great coach though so hopefully he can make it happen.

Wonder what they are thinking with #4 ... trade it to ATL for 8+10? Reddish and Jaxon Hayes?

Theres no reason why Lonzo will fit better in NOP compared to the Bulls. Lonzo with Lauri & Carter would be equally amazing although there will be less highlight reels. Can you imagine Lauri shooting wide open 3s from Ball's passing? He could easily make 40% of 3s attempted.

Don’t see Griffin trading 4 for 8 and 10 unless he can flip 8 and 10 for a player like Beal.

WAS has already said Beal is off the table.

Showtime23 wrote:

SfBull wrote:

Ebo21 wrote:What can we put together to bring in Jrue Holiday?

Holiday
Lavine
Porter Jr.
Markk
Carter Jr.

That’s a competitive starting 5

Better go BPA with #7 signing Beverley
Beverley
Lavine( draft)
OPJ(draft)
Lauri
WCJ
It's a competitive starting 5.

Does NOP swap Holiday for Lavine? I would do it in a nano second but NOP might also do since hes cheaper and younger.

Beverley
Holiday
OP
Lauri
WCJ

NOP would, I wouldn't.

Showtime23 wrote:

RastaBull wrote:I like Lonzo and was always hoping he'd get a chance to shine in the league ... didn't feel like that would happen in Chicago.

But Pels could be PERFECT!!!

1) Lonzo has guaranteed buckets at the end of his passes ... ZION!
2) Lonzo and Zion running transition is going to be highlight reel gold
3) Holiday seems to be max efficient as a 2G with a PG that will be heavy on-the-ball

I think Lonzo could grow leaps in bounds in next two years. More concerned with Ingram's fit and progression. Feel like they need some more stretch pieces with Lonzo and Zion ... doesn't seem to be Ingram's role. Alvin Gentry is a great coach though so hopefully he can make it happen.

Wonder what they are thinking with #4 ... trade it to ATL for 8+10? Reddish and Jaxon Hayes?

Theres no reason why Lonzo will fit better in NOP compared to the Bulls. Lonzo with Lauri & Carter would be equally amazing although there will be less highlight reels. Can you imagine Lauri shooting wide open 3s from Ball's passing? He could easily make 40% of 3s attempted.

Why would he be wide open? He'll have his man and Lonzo's man doubling him.

Red8911 wrote:

NecessaryEvil wrote:

Red8911 wrote:The west is open right now with GS getting weaker but dont bet on it yet. Just AD won’t turn things around for them in terms of contending. Let’s not forget Lebron isn’t and won’t be the same as he was.They need at least another star. Jimmy wouldn’t be a good fit so if they get Kemba or Irving then they would be for real.

Lakers have no one to compete with in the West with Klay and Durant out a full season.

The west is theres.

Let’s see how things shake out first. Houston still has a top player in Harden and they will make changes. Clippers have a 50/50 chance at Kawhi. Denver is young and could get even better next season. OKC will still be a threat despite their failures. Then also Dallas should make some noise next season.

Yeah I forgot about Dallas I don't know if they're going to be in contention for anything but they're still not going to be a team that opponents are looking forward to playing. They have an interesting core there.

League Circles wrote:

Showtime23 wrote:

RastaBull wrote:I like Lonzo and was always hoping he'd get a chance to shine in the league ... didn't feel like that would happen in Chicago.

But Pels could be PERFECT!!!

1) Lonzo has guaranteed buckets at the end of his passes ... ZION!
2) Lonzo and Zion running transition is going to be highlight reel gold
3) Holiday seems to be max efficient as a 2G with a PG that will be heavy on-the-ball

I think Lonzo could grow leaps in bounds in next two years. More concerned with Ingram's fit and progression. Feel like they need some more stretch pieces with Lonzo and Zion ... doesn't seem to be Ingram's role. Alvin Gentry is a great coach though so hopefully he can make it happen.

Wonder what they are thinking with #4 ... trade it to ATL for 8+10? Reddish and Jaxon Hayes?

Theres no reason why Lonzo will fit better in NOP compared to the Bulls. Lonzo with Lauri & Carter would be equally amazing although there will be less highlight reels. Can you imagine Lauri shooting wide open 3s from Ball's passing? He could easily make 40% of 3s attempted.

Why would he be wide open? He'll have his man and Lonzo's man doubling him.

What is with people trashing Ball’s shooting but wanting Jrue? Ball was a better distance shooter than Holiday last year and is more likely to improve.

dumbell78 wrote:

TheStig wrote:

dumbell78 wrote:
At the end of that LeBron is 40, AD is 32, and Kemba is 35. All past prime and on max dollars. Somebody get Griffin a Nobel prize.

I think you're overreacting here. AD on the Pels was good for playoffs or late lottery most years. This will take him through his prime. Where it gets interesting is toward the end if AD gets injured one year.

I don't see 5 lotto picks here like most.

I don't think I am. He's oft injured and will most likely deal with nagging injuries. My point is they are locked in to those guys and capped out for the foreseeable future, with no draft picks. The other guys will be plain old very quickly. Griffin won this deal.

I mean will be capped out with 3 stars and Kuzma. They'll use their room exception on a 3 and d gaurd and have a complete starting lineup. They'll get a full MLE for at least the next 2 years and they'll get ring chasers. I really can't see them missing the playoffs in the next 4 years. So most of those picks are in the 20s.

Meanwhile Ball and Ingram don't seem better than average starters. They've shown moments but haven't done anything consistently and will be due extenstions soon. And they both have injury concerns. The #4 is a good get but it's really a 3 person draft for elite talent. But I can see Culver panning out well. I don't see the young star they nabbed here.

Highly doubt MJ will let Walker jump ship to the Lakers.

GrowingHorns wrote:Still can't believe the level of desperation LA was to get AD. This deal is some mind numbing stuff. Whoa. Pels could become very dominant team in few years if things go right.

They did right.They wouldn't go anywhere with their youngs, they built from the draft 5 years and got nothing.

sh0ck wrote:Is it only me, but I feel like the Bulls should be focusing on Josh Hart, not Lonzo Ball in a Pelicans deal.

I feel the Bulls should stick with the rebuilding and draft BPA with #7 without giving any assets, just it,try to get a good vet point in the FA, trading options available haven't been attractive.

SfBull wrote:

GrowingHorns wrote:Still can't believe the level of desperation LA was to get AD. This deal is some mind numbing stuff. Whoa. Pels could become very dominant team in few years if things go right.

They did right.They wouldn't go anywhere with their youngs, they built from the draft 5 years and got nothing.

Similar to us, but our city and franchise doesn't have that LA lustre. And the kicker is that they got to keep Kuzma who is better than any of our young talent.

R3AL1TY wrote:Highly doubt MJ will let Walker jump ship to the Lakers.

I can't see MJ putting the supermax out there. They would have nothing they can do to improve that team. Kemba is good enough to keep you out of the good lotto picks, they have no assets and won't have cap space for a bit, not that anyone is coming there either. That team needs to start over.

RastaBull wrote:I like Lonzo and was always hoping he'd get a chance to shine in the league ... didn't feel like that would happen in Chicago.

But Pels could be PERFECT!!!

1) Lonzo has guaranteed buckets at the end of his passes ... ZION!
2) Lonzo and Zion running transition is going to be highlight reel gold
3) Holiday seems to be max efficient as a 2G with a PG that will be heavy on-the-ball

I think Lonzo could grow leaps in bounds in next two years. More concerned with Ingram's fit and progression. Feel like they need some more stretch pieces with Lonzo and Zion ... doesn't seem to be Ingram's role. Alvin Gentry is a great coach though so hopefully he can make it happen.

Wonder what they are thinking with #4 ... trade it to ATL for 8+10? Reddish and Jaxon Hayes?

I kind of agree on Ball improving by a lot. He did shoot high percentages from all over in college, that is what is so strange. Even with that funky shot he shot over .400 from 3 on high volume at UCLA. Maybe he shouldn't have messed with it. I just have a feeling that now that the Bulls didn't get him, he is going to be good. lol. Even though he can't hit a FT, he still shot over .330 from 3. It's his FT shooting that really has been a bigger problem. That and the lack of getting to the line.

I don't think any of those picks are going to be high except the #4 they got this year. Lakers are the favorites to win it all now and Lebron has always been durable and he is such a high IQ player that he will re-invent himself when his athleticism forces it. Likely will be in the 20's until maybe the 2024 and the swap in '25. I think the Lakers will be very much in contention for the next 3-4 seasons at least.

cjbulls wrote:

League Circles wrote:

Showtime23 wrote:
Theres no reason why Lonzo will fit better in NOP compared to the Bulls. Lonzo with Lauri & Carter would be equally amazing although there will be less highlight reels. Can you imagine Lauri shooting wide open 3s from Ball's passing? He could easily make 40% of 3s attempted.

Why would he be wide open? He'll have his man and Lonzo's man doubling him.

What is with people trashing Ball’s shooting but wanting Jrue? Ball was a better distance shooter than Holiday last year and is more likely to improve.

It's the spacing, not the shooting %s. They aren't the same thing.

I do think that NO's best move now is to see if they could trade #4 (and pieces) to Washington for Beal. And maybe Holiday (and pieces) to Celts for Brown.

TheStig wrote:

R3AL1TY wrote:Highly doubt MJ will let Walker jump ship to the Lakers.

I can't see MJ putting the supermax out there. They would have nothing they can do to improve that team. Kemba is good enough to keep you out of the good lotto picks, they have no assets and won't have cap space for a bit, not that anyone is coming there either. That team needs to start over.

MJ doesn't have to offer the entire percentage of the supermax though + Walker is open to taking less to help improve the team.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/06/13/kemba-walker-willing-take-less-supermax

League Circles wrote:

cjbulls wrote:

League Circles wrote:Why would he be wide open? He'll have his man and Lonzo's man doubling him.

What is with people trashing Ball’s shooting but wanting Jrue? Ball was a better distance shooter than Holiday last year and is more likely to improve.

It's the spacing, not the shooting %s. They aren't the same thing.

Huh? The spacing is driven by the shooting numbers.

cjbulls wrote:

League Circles wrote:

cjbulls wrote:
What is with people trashing Ball’s shooting but wanting Jrue? Ball was a better distance shooter than Holiday last year and is more likely to improve.

It's the spacing, not the shooting %s. They aren't the same thing.

Huh? The spacing is driven by the shooting numbers.

No, it's not, it's moreso the other way around IMO.