Aldridge to the nets

[Bologna Smasher]

If people thought the Clippers bashing was bad after they got beat in the playoffs, imagine what it's going to be like for the Nets if they don't win the championship.

[Tracymcgoaty]

The problem I have with the buyout market is when super teams are created they usually sacrifice a bench and depth.

That just isn't the case anymore. The buyout market 100% addresses super teams weaknesses.

I mean good for the nets and the Lakers but it's just It's starting to make the NBA so much less competitive and so much less watchable.

Dude why is it good for us lol? We haven't even acquired anyone.

You guys constantly get buyout players. I fully expect you guys to land Drummond unless the Knicks do something stupid and give him a multi-year contract

Looks like the Celtics are interested aswell though. Last i checked front runners were the Celtics and the Lakers. How would he fit with the Celtics. I do agree that the buyout market is a loophole for helping contenders for the most part. They seriously need to fix that.

[Trader_Joe]

2 things...

1. They were in Brooklyn/NYC for nearly a decade, had cap and never had interest from major FAs. This is Mark's creating an ideal roster, cap situation, asset base...organization as a whole to become appealing to FAs. It also helps that Dolan owns the Knicks and they have been relatively inept the last 2 decades. Had they been, KD probably does go to NY and they have some sort of super team.

Either way, Marks turned 21 wins, no picks, no talent into the most appealing and maybe best team in the league. He lined up his cap space and dumped Crabbe to clear the cap for two max FAs. He had the assets to trade for Harden and finally has the appeal of the organization to gets some of the best players obtainable in free agency or buyout market.

Also helps he found guys like Harris and Dinwiddie given up on and drafted guys like LeVert, Allen and now Claxton from 20 on in the draft..

Not sure how any of this is unfair. But I get the jealousy.

2. Keep buyouts but also make it where the worst team gets the right to match assuming they have the cap/exception if it's not the minimum, maybe the worst 3 get a chance. Seems the team would get the guy less than 50% the time depending.

[Beethoven]

Vegas now has nets as the clear outright favorites now. Everyone betting down on nets. Vegas is gonna be building new towers next year

[TheDiesel36]

Basically a non story, Aldridge and especially Griffin are not guys worthy of rotational minutes at the highest levels, they both (and DeAndre) suck hard on defense, if Nash has the balls most of the key rotation for bigs will be Green, Claxton, KD and some Jordan minutes

Griffin and Aldridge can make 3s

Claxton and Jordan not

They can play with matchups, this is a ring to lose for them.

Luke Kornet can also make 3s, does that make him playable in last rounds of playoffs? Get real, these guys have forks stickin out of their backs (esp Griffin). Anyone going along the lines of "The Nets are too stacked, F KD!!" because of these 2 signings isnt being honest or just doesnt follow basketball all that much.

[Hardenstepback]

Lebron stans about to cry themselves to sleep.

Or will show more edvince that what the heat did is much smaller than this

Or we can just pull up old excerpts of what people actually said about Lebron going to Miami

BR: From King to coward, Why lebron James ruined his legacy

With all this super team talk over the past few years and peoples legacies being involved. I remember this controversial(but something that seemed true at the the time) article when Lebron hightailed it to Miami I read years ago

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/428311-from-king-to-coward-lebron-james-disappoints

LeBron James was drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2003 under the perfect circumstances to become one of the greatest players of all time. James came into the NBA with a mission to bring his hometown a taste of success in sports - something Cleveland has long been without.Now the fairytale hast come to an abrupt ending, something like Cinderella never going the ball... What kind of story would that be? He's taking his game to Miami, something we all found out while watching his narcissistic attempt at professionalism, otherwise known as "The Decision". If you agree, and like a good laugh you should watch Steve Carell's spoof on it:

Watch on YouTube

Without too much discussion about the way he did it, let's look at the effects of his decision. As soon as he announced his decision, he forfeited ever being considered the greatest player of all time. It has been proven that he can't beat the best with his own team, so he decided it would be a good idea to go and make his own "dream teamso that he and company (that company being Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh) can beat the best. Why didn't Jordan, Bird and Magic all just join the same team and wreak havoc on the league? Because they were competitors. That is what this game is about and it's sad that it is disappearing to this extent. LeBron would rather dominate by joining forces than compete for the sake of his own legacy and for the sake of competing.LeBron threw away his legacy by wimping out. LeBron supporters might say that he was doing the "unselfish" thing, sacrificing MONEY, STATS, and PERSONAL GLORY in order to compete for a title. But if people are considering those things to be the most important things in this league, then the NBA today has gotten way too superficial. LeBron James giving up extra millions of dollars is not going to have anyone losing too much sleep. His pillows are made of shredded $100 bills, I don't think he's going to sweat over any financial matters in the near future. As much as this allows him to claim that "it's not about the money" and that it's "about winning", that still doesn't excuse the utter absence of competitiveness.He wants to win, but he wants it to be given to him. If he had won a title a few years ago, and just wanted to go somewhere else to add onto that, I may not even be writing this article. But it's almost like he tried so hard for so long in Cleveland, and then just quit when he felt he was at the end of his ropes. I have long been a LeBron James > Kobe Bryant kind of guy, but after that dreadful television episode, I actually like Kobe Bryant more now. Anyone else make any sense of a person betraying his team and leaving for another, only to follow up his decision saying "I know how loyal I am"? That's like having an ice cold Gatorade in your hand but not drinking it, and rather setting it down. Only to then say "I know how thirsty I am"... I hope the Lakers 3-peat and that LeBron does not get his long coveted NBA title. I hope he averages a triple-double though, something he can be remembered for without being criticized from every angle.

It didn’t take the word of any NBA legend to prove how much of a cowardly, legacy-killing move it was for LeBron James to flee his home state of Ohio and the Cleveland Cavaliers to join up with fellow NBA superstar Dwyane Wade in Miami. But it sure put the cherry on top. With quotes from Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Charles Barkley all out for the public to see, it adds more emphasis to the already pretty obvious assessment of LeBron James’ handling of his free agency. Jordan said, “There’s no way, with hindsight, I would’ve ever called up Larry, called up Magic, and said ‘Hey look, let’s get together and play on one team. But that’s…things are different. I can’t say that’s a bad thing. It’s an opportunity these kids have today. In all honesty I was trying to beat those guys.” This is Jordan once again living up to the reputation of being a true competitor—something that LeBron has lacked thus far in his career. When the going has gotten tough, LeBron has failed to measure up to his self-imposed royalty standard. Magic Johnson chimed in with, “We didn’t think about it because that’s not what we were about. From college I was trying to figure out how to beat Larry Bird” Magic clearly also couldn’t see himself making a move similar to LeBron’s. He accepted the challenge of his rivalry with Bird and used it to elevate his game throughout his career. Larry Bird added, “There is no way I would have joined Magic or Michael and play with them. The only time I ever wanted to play with Magic was on the Olympic team, and even then our practices were hard, and we beat each other up in practice.” Bird also gives off the feeling that he was constantly on a mission to be the best and beat the best, another sign of a strong competitor. Even Charles Barkley responded. “(Reggie) Miller and I are in 100% agreement on this," he said. "If you’re the two-time NBA MVP you don’t leave anywhere. They come to you. That’s ridiculous. LeBron will never be Jordan. This clearly takes him out of the conversation. "He can win as much as he wants to. There would have been something honorable about staying in Cleveland and trying to win it as ‘The Man.’ LeBron if he would have won in Cleveland and if he could have got a championship there, it would have been over the top for his legacy, just one in Cleveland. No matter how many he wins in Miami, it clearly is Dwyane Wade’s team.” Barkley was the hardest the decision, living up to his reputation in not shying away from sharing exactly how he feels. Barkley might not have the strongest standing, but he hit the nail right on the head with his quote. If LeBron was “King James” and a legitimate threat to be one of the best basketball players of all-time, he needed to do it in Cleveland—or at the very least with a team where he was “the man”. There are plenty of LeBron James supporters who are blowing off what these legends have to say, claiming they are bitter and rolling with the "LeBron is his own man," argument. But this makes absolutely no sense. Yes, LeBron is his own man and he can choose to play where he wants and with whom he wants. But they must understand that there are consequences and conclusions that will be made directly from his actions. When taking into account that he called himself “King James” before he ever stepped foot into the NBA and the fact he wore number 23, he can thank himself for a lot of the hype and high expectations. The rest of the credit can go to ESPN and its ability to feed spectators with constant brainwashing highlights and praise on a daily basis, no matter the result. As silly as it may sound, the two-time MVP has already failed miserably in his attempt to meet the expectations of his NBA career, despite the fact that it is far from over.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/425824-nba-legends-put-lebron-in-his-place

Everything people are saying about KD, they said about Lebron. I ain’t forget when they used to call him all sorts of cowards and punks

Bron stans seem to think people forgot. Thankfully Lebron played in the internet era so this stuff is still easy to find

[Trader_Joe]

Basically a non story, Aldridge and especially Griffin are not guys worthy of rotational minutes at the highest levels, they both (and DeAndre) suck hard on defense, if Nash has the balls most of the key rotation for bigs will be Green, Claxton, KD and some Jordan minutes

Griffin and Aldridge can make 3s

Claxton and Jordan not

They can play with matchups, this is a ring to lose for them.

Luke Kornet can also make 3s, does that make him playable in last rounds of playoffs? Get real, these guys have forks stickin out of their backs (esp Griffin). Anyone going along the lines of "The Nets are too stacked, F KD!!" because of these 2 signings isnt being honest or just doesnt follow basketball all that much.

Claxton has been closing in reply to your original comment. DJ wasn't playing much at the start of the season. His minutes will go down. Also, so far, Blake looks great defensively and is playing tough and smart.

[ChampionRed]

All I'll say is this:

I agree the buyout market is getting out of hand. However, who is to blame? Are the Nets to blame for other teams not being able to trade their buyout candidates? Additionally, teams won't trade for these players BECAUSE they want the chance to get them for "free". The NBA will NEVER shutdown this process. If the smaller market teams have a problem, trade for the players first.

The Nets and Sean Marks did everything the right away. They organically grew their team to what it was when their core was Dlo, LeVert, Harris and Allen. Marks took them from being a laughing stock to being a competitive fun and young team. They maintained flexibility so they can be in the "Kyrie and KD sweepstakes" that following off season.

When they did the impossible and signed them both - you're obviously all in at that point as an organization. It's irresponsible to NOT do everything in your power to improve your team and take full advantage of the opportunity.

Let's not pretend the Nets discovered this method of buyout candidates. Remember when Realgm was going crazy because David West turned down 12 mil to sign with the Warriors? This has been going on for several years now.

For the posters saying the team is bought - The Nets kept the two players who are the epitome of their rebuild in Joe Harris and Spencer Dinwiddie AND retained their most recent pick in Nic Claxton. They signed fan favorite Bruce Brown and Tyler Johnson who was originally signed by the Nets to that massive offer sheet.

Don't be mistaken - the Nets fans LOVE this team and it's THEIR team. The players here ALL want to play for Brooklyn - no one is being forced.

Every fan complaining would 100% be happy if this was their team - no matter what they say.

The Nets didn't rig anything - they did everything the right away, had a little luck, and now they have an opportunity to win a championship. More power to them!

[Trader_Joe]

Btw how does Marks not gotten serious EOY talk?

Last year was Irving, KD, Jordan, Temple in free agency. Even orchestrated a sign and trade after the fact to make it all possible and somehow got a protected pick from GS.

This year was the Harden trade as well as acquiring B.Brown and Shamet in trade, J.Green and Joe Harris in free agency, and Grffin and LMA in buyout market. He also hired Nash as coach and D'Antoni as an assistant.

[wadenation305]

NBA "We're promoting better parity between NBA steams"

*Nets* Yea we'll take Irvin, KD, Harden, Griffin, LMA, Jordan **Calls GWS** "Hey like you guys don't seem to be doing good can we borrow Curry for the rest of the season? we'll return him to you after the playoffs no problem"

As dirty as this feels, if the Lakers make it out of the west I'd even cheer for them and Lebron to take down this abomination.

You guys literally did the same exact thing in 2011

Unbelievable! Heat fans have no room to talk.

We had an older wade what was already on the decline prime lebron and Bosh, and a bunch of old washed vets not Wade lebron Bosh cp3 and Stat.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Fear not my fellow fans if we are marked to lose! WE ARE ENOUGH TO DO OUR TEAMS LOSS! BUT TO LIVE THE FEWER FANS THE GREATER SHARE OF GLORY! GODS WILL I PRAY THEE WISH NOT ONE MAN MORE! THIS DAY IS CALLED **** THE BROOKLYN NETS DAY!

And gentlemen in REALGM now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon **** BROOKLYN NETS DAY!

[Dupp]

Is LMA still any good? I had no idea he was bad enough to be bought out.

[Hardenstepback]

NBA "We're promoting better parity between NBA steams"

*Nets* Yea we'll take Irvin, KD, Harden, Griffin, LMA, Jordan **Calls GWS** "Hey like you guys don't seem to be doing good can we borrow Curry for the rest of the season? we'll return him to you after the playoffs no problem"

As dirty as this feels, if the Lakers make it out of the west I'd even cheer for them and Lebron to take down this abomination.

You guys literally did the same exact thing in 2011

Unbelievable! Heat fans have no room to talk.

We had an older wade what was already on the decline prime lebron and Bosh, and a bunch of old washed vets not Wade lebron Bosh cp3 and Stat.

Did lebron know that when he first teamed up with them? The year after Wade was 5th in MVP voting and Bosh was an all star who was 12th? No, he wanted to stack the deck like everybody else and got called out for it

Case in point

As soon as he announced his decision, he forfeited ever being considered the greatest player of all time. It has been proven that he can't beat the best with his own team, so he decided it would be a good idea to go and make his own "dream team so that he and company (that company being Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh) can beat the best. Why didn't Jordan, Bird and Magic all just join the same team and wreak havoc on the league?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/428311-from-king-to-coward-lebron-james-disappoints

And even legends called him out

It didn’t take the word of any NBA legend to prove how much of a cowardly, legacy-killing move it was for LeBron James to flee his home state of Ohio and the Cleveland Cavaliers to join up with fellow NBA superstar Dwyane Wade in Miami.

But it sure put the cherry on top. With quotes from Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Charles Barkley all out for the public to see, it adds more emphasis to the already pretty obvious assessment of LeBron James’ handling of his free agency. Jordan said, “There’s no way, with hindsight, I would’ve ever called up Larry, called up Magic, and said ‘Hey look, let’s get together and play on one team. But that’s…things are different. I can’t say that’s a bad thing. It’s an opportunity these kids have today. In all honesty I was trying to beat those guys.” This is Jordan once again living up to the reputation of being a true competitor—something that LeBron has lacked thus far in his career. When the going has gotten tough,

LeBron has failed to measure up to his self-imposed royalty standard. Magic Johnson chimed in with, “We didn’t think about it because that’s not what we were about. From college I was trying to figure out how to beat Larry Bird” Magic clearly also couldn’t see himself making a move similar to LeBron’s. He accepted the challenge of his rivalry with Bird and used it to elevate his game throughout his career. Larry Bird added, “There is no way I would have joined Magic or Michael and play with them. The only time I ever wanted to play with Magic was on the Olympic team, and even then our practices were hard, and we beat each other up in practice.” Bird also gives off the feeling that he was constantly on a mission to be the best and beat the best, another sign of a strong competitor. Even Charles Barkley responded. “(Reggie) Miller and I are in 100% agreement on this," he said. "If you’re the two-time NBA MVP you don’t leave anywhere. They come to you. That’s ridiculous. LeBron will never be Jordan. This clearly takes him out of the conversation. "He can win as much as he wants to. There would have been something honorable about staying in Cleveland and trying to win it as ‘The Man.’ LeBron if he would have won in Cleveland and if he could have got a championship there, it would have been over the top for his legacy, just one in Cleveland. No matter how many he wins in Miami, [b]it clearly is Dwyane Wade’s team.”[/B] Barkley was the hardest the decision, living up to his reputation in not shying away from sharing exactly how he feels. Barkley might not have the strongest standing, but he hit the nail right on the head with his quote. If LeBron was “King James” and a legitimate threat to be one of the best basketball players of all-time, he needed to do it in Cleveland—or at the very least with a team where he was “the man”. There are plenty of LeBron James supporters who are blowing off what these legends have to say, claiming they are bitter and rolling with the "LeBron is his own man," argument. But this makes absolutely no sense. Yes, LeBron is his own man and he can choose to play where he wants and with whom he wants. But they must understand that there are consequences and conclusions that will be made directly from his actions. When taking into account that he called himself “King James” before he ever stepped foot into the NBA and the fact he wore number 23, he can thank himself for a lot of the hype and high expectations. The rest of the credit can go to ESPN and its ability to feed spectators with constant brainwashing highlights and praise on a daily basis, no matter the result. As silly as it may sound, the two-time MVP has already failed miserably in his attempt to meet the expectations of his NBA career, despite the fact that it is far from over.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/425824-nba-legends-put-lebron-in-his-place

That whole Miami debatable was a circus and was criticized for it. I didn’t forget

[D.Brasco]

If people thought the Clippers bashing was bad after they got beat in the playoffs, imagine what it's going to be like for the Nets if they don't win the championship.

Every non-Brooklyn NBA fan if they get bumped in the playoffs

[Edug27]

There's still only one basketball

And it goes in at the highest percent in the league.

[picc]

How do they even have minutes for all these guys? I truly dont get it from either perspective, BK or Aldridge.

[vincecarter4pres]

I love the hate. Oh man, hate, hate, hate, hate... hate... *Ice T voice

We're still a smaller fan base, we haven't had an actual contender in almost two decades, and for a team with a dedicated, yet mainly humble and realistic group of fans, we've often been targeted and shunned by a lot of random fans and media.

All I can say is, sick my duck, whether we win 4 straight, or fail epically. The other contenders fans scared and the washed low seed and lotto teams fans are aggie. Glorious.

[HangTime]

How do they even have minutes for all these guys? I truly dont get it from either perspective, BK or Aldridge.

It'll probably be low(ish) minutes and max effort.

[Dupp]

How you suppose to stop this team score?

[Hello Brooklyn]

NBA "We're promoting better parity between NBA steams"

*Nets* Yea we'll take Irvin, KD, Harden, Griffin, LMA, Jordan **Calls GWS** "Hey like you guys don't seem to be doing good can we borrow Curry for the rest of the season? we'll return him to you after the playoffs no problem"

As dirty as this feels, if the Lakers make it out of the west I'd even cheer for them and Lebron to take down this abomination.

You guys literally did the same exact thing in 2011

Unbelievable! Heat fans have no room to talk.

We had an older wade what was already on the decline prime lebron and Bosh, and a bunch of old washed vets not Wade lebron Bosh cp3 and Stat.

LMAO. Bosh and Wade were both younger than Harden and KD are right now. And they were both clearly in their prime.

It was CLEARLY a Superteam. Stop with the lies.