2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation

[Cutter]

Does Sabonis or Myles Turner start for Indiana? I can't imagine Sabonis being ok with coming off the bench unless he was getting at least 32 MPG. I would love to get him, just not sure how it would work.

[grumpysaddle]

Does Sabonis or Myles Turner start for Indiana? I can't imagine Sabonis being ok with coming off the bench unless he was getting at least 32 MPG. I would love to get him, just not sure how it would work.

You start Sabonis at PF and Ayton at C. Then alternate their minutes a bit and use them together for some. They can both have similar amounts of minutes, IMO. I dunno. Probably doesn't work, but I've just always liked Sabonis' game.

[Cutter]

In 2013/14 Andre Igoudala left the Sixers (where he was the number one option on the team) to come off the bench for Golden State He took a pay cut to play for a championship, and I don't remember if he was traded to GSW or FA. He was 29 or 30 years old and was a major reason GSW had their championship run for a couple of years. Suns need that level of talent coming off their bench, not players like Cam Payne or Torrey Craig,

A player I can see maybe taking that bench role for the Suns could be Demar Derozen. He's 31 and a free agent this year. He has been a number 1 or 2 option his entire career at Toronto and Spurs, but just not quite good enough to fill that role. At 31 still has gas in the tank in a first off the bench role, but the end of his career is approaching. I think we could get his high level talent for a potentially decent salary as he chases a ring.

[Cutter]

Does Sabonis or Myles Turner start for Indiana? I can't imagine Sabonis being ok with coming off the bench unless he was getting at least 32 MPG. I would love to get him, just not sure how it would work.

You start Sabonis at PF and Ayton at C. Then alternate their minutes a bit and use them together for some. They can both have similar amounts of minutes, IMO. I dunno. Probably doesn't work, but I've just always liked Sabonis' game.

I do love Saboni and support this idea!

[Blonde]

In 2013/14 Andre Igoudala left the Sixers (where he was the number one option on the team) to come off the bench for Golden State He took a pay cut to play for a championship, and I don't remember if he was traded to GSW or FA. He was 29 or 30 years old and was a major reason GSW had their championship run for a couple of years. Suns need that level of talent coming off their bench, not players like Cam Payne or Torrey Craig,

A player I can see maybe taking that bench role for the Suns could be Demar Derozen. He's 31 and a free agent this year. He has been a number 1 or 2 option his entire career at Toronto and Spurs, but just not quite good enough to fill that role. At 31 still has gas in the tank in a first off the bench role, but the end of his career is approaching. I think we could get his high level talent for a potentially decent salary as he chases a ring.

Iguodala signed a big deal with Denver where he was probably a third option behind Lawson and Galo. GSW traded for him the next year and he started every game for the first season before coming off the bench his second year there.

That aside, I love Demar Derozan and have explored trading for him in the past. I think we should be looking for that “once star, now role player” who people are disregarding (much like CP3). I’m fairly certain the Suns won’t go this direction, but still it makes sense. He would be fantastic leading a bench unit. Run a monopoly on mid range killers.

[Frank Lee]

Crazy how we go right into the draft after a brief lull. I guess it was the longest season we’ve played in a decade, calendar-wise. Jones needs to nail his next moves. Lots can happen. Hoping CP just opts in and then goes yr to yr. he has enough dough. That’s the most flexible team thing to do. Hope no team gets nutty and over bids for CPayne. Same for Craig. There’s just so many twisty turns up ahead, it’s hard to see the path. But one thing bothers me.... I heard Monty said he should have played Shank more... GDit, the Bucks ignore him, he plays 11 decent minutes and likely saves his roster spot.

[grumpysaddle]

Crazy how we go right into the draft after a brief lull. I guess it was the longest season we’ve played in a decade, calendar-wise. Jones needs to nail his next moves. Lots can happen. Hoping CP just opts in and then goes yr to yr. he has enough dough. That’s the most flexible team thing to do. Hope no team gets nutty and over bids for CPayne. Same for Craig. There’s just so many twisty turns up ahead, it’s hard to see the path. But one thing bothers me.... I heard Monty said he should have played Shank more... GDit, the Bucks ignore him, he plays 11 decent minutes and likely saves his roster spot.

There can be only one... Frank.

[sunskerr]

Another one... If Indy offered Sabonis straight up for Bridges, would you?

Bridges is one of my favorite players on the team, like I've said, but I'd probably do it. I think Sabonis and Ayton can work together, at least for spurts, and they'd grab damn near every rebound available out there. Ayton rebounds with athleticism, but Sabonis is just a hard worker to get them. He's not great defensively, but him in place of Saric or Kaminsky would be crazy. Cam Johnson slides into the starting 5 to space the floor more consistently than Crowder, and Crowder can lead the 2nd unit.

CP3/Booker/CamJo/Sabonis/Ayton

Could be pretty awesome, IMO. But I really like Sabonis and what he brings.

Sabonis would be a crazy acquisition. He's pretty much untouchable though in Indy and Bridges doesn't come close.

[grumpysaddle]

Another one... If Indy offered Sabonis straight up for Bridges, would you?

Bridges is one of my favorite players on the team, like I've said, but I'd probably do it. I think Sabonis and Ayton can work together, at least for spurts, and they'd grab damn near every rebound available out there. Ayton rebounds with athleticism, but Sabonis is just a hard worker to get them. He's not great defensively, but him in place of Saric or Kaminsky would be crazy. Cam Johnson slides into the starting 5 to space the floor more consistently than Crowder, and Crowder can lead the 2nd unit.

CP3/Booker/CamJo/Sabonis/Ayton

Could be pretty awesome, IMO. But I really like Sabonis and what he brings.

Sabonis would be a crazy acquisition. He's pretty much untouchable though in Indy and Bridges doesn't come close.

Mentioned here cause I saw an Indy poster mention something similar on the trade board

[sunskerr]

Another one... If Indy offered Sabonis straight up for Bridges, would you?

Bridges is one of my favorite players on the team, like I've said, but I'd probably do it. I think Sabonis and Ayton can work together, at least for spurts, and they'd grab damn near every rebound available out there. Ayton rebounds with athleticism, but Sabonis is just a hard worker to get them. He's not great defensively, but him in place of Saric or Kaminsky would be crazy. Cam Johnson slides into the starting 5 to space the floor more consistently than Crowder, and Crowder can lead the 2nd unit.

CP3/Booker/CamJo/Sabonis/Ayton

Could be pretty awesome, IMO. But I really like Sabonis and what he brings.

Sabonis would be a crazy acquisition. He's pretty much untouchable though in Indy and Bridges doesn't come close.

Mentioned here cause I saw an Indy poster mention something similar on the trade board

Oh...

Well then thanks Mikal it was great having you

[pj0tr]

I don't agree with going for Lillard. I don't think he makes us any better than we already were. Hes an awesome player, just don't like the fit in Phoenix.

Honestly, this offseason is this:

1) Resign/extend CP3 2-3 years
2) Grab backup C in FA (Nerlens like I said earlier in the thread)
3) Sign backup PG - I don't think we're able to re-sign Payne. Spencer Dinwiddie, Alex Caruso, Patty Mills are my top picks in terms of fit here in Phoenix IMO.
4) Draft athletic wing with potential - Jared Butler, Jaden Springer, Josh Christopher, Tre Mann seem to be options that could be available late. Herb Jones from Bama would be a big man option, but at that point, you have to move on from Jalen Smith.

The goal in a few years should be to get DeAaron Fox to Phoenix to replace CP3 when CP3 retires.

Fox, Booker, Bridges, Johnson, Ayton is a hell of a core, although I'm not sure I like that lineup to start. An athletic 4 to replace Crowder is going to be a priority 2-3 years from now.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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A lot of good information in here! Cap figures and a small bit of offseason theoreticals.

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[SSOL]

I don't agree with going for Lillard. I don't think he makes us any better than we already were. Hes an awesome player, just don't like the fit in Phoenix.

Honestly, this offseason is this:

1) Resign/extend CP3 2-3 years
2) Grab backup C in FA (Nerlens like I said earlier in the thread)
3) Sign backup PG - I don't think we're able to re-sign Payne. Spencer Dinwiddie, Alex Caruso, Patty Mills are my top picks in terms of fit here in Phoenix IMO.
4) Draft athletic wing with potential - Jared Butler, Jaden Springer, Josh Christopher, Tre Mann seem to be options that could be available late. Herb Jones from Bama would be a big man option, but at that point, you have to move on from Jalen Smith.

The goal in a few years should be to get DeAaron Fox to Phoenix to replace CP3 when CP3 retires.

Fox, Booker, Bridges, Johnson, Ayton is a hell of a core, although I'm not sure I like that lineup to start. An athletic 4 to replace Crowder is going to be a priority 2-3 years from now.

If you can’t pay Payne you’re not getting Dinwiddie.

[Puff]

Nerlens Noel as a backup for Ayton would be perfect for this team IMO.

This is the best option I've seen. If we could split mid level on him and a backup guard that would be ideal.

That is a good option but unlike some others on this board I like Javelle McGee as an option as well. He has played on winners and is part of this years Olympic Team. He had that little conversation with CP3 after the Denver series and will be spending the next couple of weeks with Booker. I think he could provide a great practice partner for Ayton as well as being his back up when facing the Bucks in the finals next year or the Lakers in the WCF. We need experienced size in the worst way. I doubt Dario will be back for most of next season. He could be had for the minimum. A good replacement for Craig. I would like to also keep Frank and Nader.

If Smith is not going to be in the picture we will also need a legit PF.

[Ghost of Kleine]

In 2013/14 Andre Igoudala left the Sixers (where he was the number one option on the team) to come off the bench for Golden State He took a pay cut to play for a championship, and I don't remember if he was traded to GSW or FA. He was 29 or 30 years old and was a major reason GSW had their championship run for a couple of years. Suns need that level of talent coming off their bench, not players like Cam Payne or Torrey Craig,

A player I can see maybe taking that bench role for the Suns could be Demar Derozen. He's 31 and a free agent this year. He has been a number 1 or 2 option his entire career at Toronto and Spurs, but just not quite good enough to fill that role. At 31 still has gas in the tank in a first off the bench role, but the end of his career is approaching. I think we could get his high level talent for a potentially decent salary as he chases a ring.

Iguodala signed a big deal with Denver where he was probably a third option behind Lawson and Galo. GSW traded for him the next year and he started every game for the first season before coming off the bench his second year there.

That aside, I love Demar Derozan and have explored trading for him in the past. I think we should be looking for that “once star, now role player” who people are disregarding (much like CP3). I’m fairly certain the Suns won’t go this direction, but still it makes sense. He would be fantastic leading a bench unit. Run a monopoly on mid range killers.

I think we should be looking for that “once star, now role player” who people are disregarding (much like CP3)

What about Carmelo Anthony? He sure fits that context, is definitely a shotmaker still ( good in the midrange right)? , He's friends with Paul, He could come off the bench and be had for the minimum.

[enigmatics]

Crazy how we go right into the draft after a brief lull. I guess it was the longest season we’ve played in a decade, calendar-wise. Jones needs to nail his next moves. Lots can happen. Hoping CP just opts in and then goes yr to yr. he has enough dough. That’s the most flexible team thing to do. Hope no team gets nutty and over bids for CPayne. Same for Craig. There’s just so many twisty turns up ahead, it’s hard to see the path. But one thing bothers me.... I heard Monty said he should have played Shank more... GDit, the Bucks ignore him, he plays 11 decent minutes and likely saves his roster spot.

There can be only one... Frank.

Monty was braindead for not giving him minutes - especially considering that fact he went to Wisconsin (literally less than 1.5 hours away) and if he ever had reason to show out above how he'd normally play it would've been in this series.

[SunsLyf3]

Marvin Bagley?

Still has untapped potential and great size. Could thrive with a simplified role.

[Saberestar]

In 2013/14 Andre Igoudala left the Sixers (where he was the number one option on the team) to come off the bench for Golden State He took a pay cut to play for a championship, and I don't remember if he was traded to GSW or FA. He was 29 or 30 years old and was a major reason GSW had their championship run for a couple of years. Suns need that level of talent coming off their bench, not players like Cam Payne or Torrey Craig,

A player I can see maybe taking that bench role for the Suns could be Demar Derozen. He's 31 and a free agent this year. He has been a number 1 or 2 option his entire career at Toronto and Spurs, but just not quite good enough to fill that role. At 31 still has gas in the tank in a first off the bench role, but the end of his career is approaching. I think we could get his high level talent for a potentially decent salary as he chases a ring.

Iguodala signed a big deal with Denver where he was probably a third option behind Lawson and Galo. GSW traded for him the next year and he started every game for the first season before coming off the bench his second year there.

That aside, I love Demar Derozan and have explored trading for him in the past. I think we should be looking for that “once star, now role player” who people are disregarding (much like CP3). I’m fairly certain the Suns won’t go this direction, but still it makes sense. He would be fantastic leading a bench unit. Run a monopoly on mid range killers.

I would LOVE to have DeRozan on the roster next year, but he is gonna get paid.

DeRozan is underrated by some people, he is the perfect third option on a championship team. Depending on who is the first option on that team he could be even a second option.

Great shot creator and facilitator, good rebounder, solid defender and mid range killer.

He is way better than Iguodala was on the Nuggets. Iguodala could not score consistently at that point and that forced their teams to use him as a role player, he could not be a primary option on offense anymore.

That is why I do not expect DeRozan to take a 6th man role or anything like that. He is much better than that and that is why he will probably get around $25M per season in his next long term deal.