PG Bulls - Loss

[rilamann]

The team certainly looks more disjointed this year and I'm not defending Griffin.

To say bud always had them blowing out teams is just bull though. They've played down to the competition for years and coasted for weeks at a time. They've also had rough patches where they looked like absolute **** for extended periods and eeked out ugly wins.

Yeah, like that time last season vs Boston when we had Giannis/Jrue/Khris and we needed overtime at home to beat the Celtic's bottom 6 players.

The selective memory around here when it comes to Bud almost seems like trolling at this point.

[MissKhriddleton]

Guys Bud never ever fouled up 3 either

Correct you are.

Last season under Bud the Bucks were up 3 in the final seconds of regulation against the Warriors.

But we lost in overtime because Bud thought it would be a better idea to let the greatest 3pt shooter in NBA history attempt the game tying 3 than it would be to take the foul.

I get the concerns with Griffin and I am not defending Griffin here.

But it's pretty interesting when the same people who act like firing was some sort of huge blunder, want Griffin's head on a platter for the same exact things we seen under Bud last season.

And I would argue that not fouling Steph Curry in the final seconds when you're up 3 is just a tad bit more egregious than not fouling Caruso or Vuc in that situation. Pretty sure anyone with a pulse and half a brain would too.

Bucks also lost in overtime in Chicago last season. A game in which we were up 2 with possession, with under 10 seconds left in regulation.

Like I have been saying since last season, Bud isn't the great coach some people think he is.

The not fouling thing is sort of just piling on to pile on. Like 20% of coaches do it and it's somewhat a horse a piece. But if you read AG's post game comments it sounds like he was non-committed to a strategy and his instructions to the team were confusing as ****. Either foul or don't coming out of that timeout regardless of back to the basket/time on the clock bull that he was talking about.

Despite that he's still a **** that should be fired yesterday.

[Dick Tate]

The good news is that we’ve potentially got a major playoff test coming next week. The chance at three straight elimination games for the IST title. If Griff wins the IST, or the team even looks good in a finals loss, will feel much better. If we flame out against the Knicks, well…….

Knicks/Boston/West team would be a great test. If we lose to the Knicks we get the loser of Boston/Indy, also a good test. Not sure where that game would be played. Both Indy and us are home for game 1, who would get the home game if we both lose I'm not sure. If Boston and us both lose I'd assume we'd play them at Boston since Boston is at Indy Monday night.

Bucks are the "top seed" which is why they host the wildcard. They'd have HC against either Indy or Boston in the "losers bracket".

[Bigcat245]

This team makes me sad.





why do you shoot so many 3's?" "because there are no 4s." -Antoine Walker

[nagawicka]

It's really weird how everyone loses their **** on Giannis but stay quiet about Dame.

Yeh, that's not what you're seeing.

[rilamann]

Bucks are 5pts and a (Lucky IMO) Caruso buzzer beating 3 from winning 14 of their last 15 and a 16-3 record.

And we're only just over 1 month into a 6 month long regular season with a rookie head coach while integrating a new superstar.

Nothing wrong with having some concerns, but some of you guys need to relax a bit.

[th87]

Bucks are 5pts and a (Lucky IMO) Caruso buzzer beating 3 from winning 14 of their last 15 and a 16-3 record.

And we're only just over 1 month into a 6 month long regular season with a rookie head coach while integrating a new superstar.

Nothing wrong with having some concerns, but some of you guys need to relax a bit.

Come on man. They're barely squeaking by the worst teams in the league or those missing their best players.

How is that not an indicator that the record is probably fraudulent? I get major last year Vikings vibes so far.

And it's the obviously nonsensical defensive schemes like playing Brook/Bobby in space causing it. This doesn't give me faith that they know what they're doing.

[nagawicka]

My hottest take i want to fire off is I feel like we're looking at a non-zero chance that Dame is asking out of here after the season.

Why would he stay? He needed to make a move to control his future, instead he got shipped to a place where nothing's really under his control at all let alone his standard role on the court as recognized by baseline bbiq everywhere.

[BroncoBuck]

Bucks are 5pts and a (Lucky IMO) Caruso buzzer beating 3 from winning 14 of their last 15 and a 16-3 record.

And we're only just over 1 month into a 6 month long regular season with a rookie head coach while integrating a new superstar.

Nothing wrong with having some concerns, but some of you guys need to relax a bit.

The Bucks have been down in the 4th quarter numerous times to some of the worst teams in the league during this stretch. Our average point differential on the year is +2.6 while playing a charmin soft schedule. This team just continually looks completely out of sorts despite routinely having the best players on the floor.

[emunney]

I believe both that the Bucks have played worse than their record and that they are better than their record.

[blazza18]

Read on Twitter

The win over Charlotte is doing a lot of work here. Outside of that the defence is keeping every team we play in games.

[DingleJerry]

My hottest take i want to fire off is I feel like we're looking at a non-zero chance that Dame is asking out of here after the season.

Why would he stay? He needed to make a move to control his future, instead he got shipped to a place where nothing's really under his control at all let alone his standard role on the court as recognized by baseline bbiq everywhere.

Well I don't think he's a guy that ones to start being known like Harden is right now. And, he has Giannis. A perfect fit next to him and top 5 player in the league. Another trade becomes pretty complicated and unlikely to go to a more 'win now' situation than he's in Pretty good reasons.

Have to keep in mind we're only a month into this so a ton is gonna happen between now and June. But if things go the negative way folks are predicting and if things behind the scenes are as bad as we kind of fear right now, his move would be to go management and tell them the coach is an idiot and they need a new. Bucks would fire the coach in an second rather than have to trade him

[rilamann]

Bucks are 5pts and a (Lucky IMO) Caruso buzzer beating 3 from winning 14 of their last 15 and a 16-3 record.

And we're only just over 1 month into a 6 month long regular season with a rookie head coach while integrating a new superstar.

Nothing wrong with having some concerns, but some of you guys need to relax a bit.

Come on man. They're barely squeaking by the worst teams in the league or those missing their best players.

How is that not an indicator that the record is probably fraudulent? I get major last year Vikings vibes so far.

And it's the obviously nonsensical defensive schemes like playing Brook/Bobby in space causing it. This doesn't give me faith that they know what they're doing.

To me, the Bucks seemed more fraudulent on December 1st last season than they do this season. Ironically, it was about exactly a year ago that I started getting really strong fraud vibes from the Bucks. Which turned out to be spot on as we proceeded to get destroyed by just about every contending level team that we played and then ultimately lost 4-1 in the first round.

This season it feels like a team with a new head coach and new superstar that is trying to figure things out. I totally get the concerns when it comes to the Bucks not putting teams away and they've done some dumb things out there.

Feels like a team that knows they are really good and can coast while at the same trying to figure stuff out.

I think the big thing for me is I have to wait to see what we look like after we have played a few more of the top teams in the league. Contending teams tend to coast early in the season and we've shown we can look pretty damn good when we want to (last 5 minutes of the 4th quarters).

Bottom line is i still need to see more and I am not getting fraud vibes from this team. I could be wrong though.

[nagawicka]

Giannis/Dame late game heroics have masked it but non-Bucks people are calling this stuff out too. This season’s going to be wasted because of this dude.

What makes you think the inbounds play or lack of P/Rs in OT were under Griff's control? What if Giannis refused to follow instructions or it didn't unfold as planned

[randy84]

The team certainly looks more disjointed this year and I'm not defending Griffin.

To say bud always had them blowing out teams is just bull though. They've played down to the competition for years and coasted for weeks at a time. They've also had rough patches where they looked like absolute **** for extended periods and eeked out ugly wins.

Yeah, like that time last season vs Boston when we had Giannis/Jrue/Khris and we needed overtime at home to beat the Celtic's bottom 6 players.

The selective memory around here when it comes to Bud almost seems like trolling at this point.

Comparing a Giannis/Jrue/Khris team to Giannis/Dame/Khris team seems weird.

[paulpressey25]

Yeah, like that time last season vs Boston when we had Giannis/Jrue/Khris and we needed overtime at home to beat the Celtic's bottom 6 players.

The selective memory around here when it comes to Bud almost seems like trolling at this point.

I forgot last year, when Bud had a dynamic guard who averages 30+ppg on the roster, to go along with Giannis 30+ppg.

[paulpressey25]

Only six players in the league last year averaged over 30ppg.

1. Embiid
2. Luka
3. Dame
4. SGA
5. Giannis
6. Tatum

We now have two of them on our roster.

[pifhluk23]

Only six players in the league last year averaged over 30ppg.

1. Embiid
2. Luka
3. Dame
4. SGA
5. Giannis
6. Tatum

We now have two of them on our roster.

And Middleton and Lopez. Team is probably looking around the locker room thinking "we don't even need to play defense."

[Neuromancer56]

Guys Bud never ever fouled up 3 either

Correct you are.

Last season under Bud the Bucks were up 3 in the final seconds of regulation against the Warriors.

But we lost in overtime because Bud thought it would be a better idea to let the greatest 3pt shooter in NBA history attempt the game tying 3 than it would be to take the foul.

I get the concerns with Griffin and I am not defending Griffin here.

But it's pretty interesting when the same people who act like firing was some sort of huge blunder, want Griffin's head on a platter for the same exact things we seen under Bud last season.

And I would argue that not fouling Steph Curry in the final seconds when you're up 3 is just a tad bit more egregious than not fouling Caruso or Vuc in that situation. Pretty sure anyone with a pulse and half a brain would too.

Bucks also lost in overtime in Chicago last season. A game in which we were up 2 with possession, with under 10 seconds left in regulation.

Like I have been saying since last season, Bud isn't the great coach some people think he is.

I've been ok with Griff's in game tactics for the most part. I think he's probably a little better than Bud on tactics, but his defensive schemes are a disaster.

[randy84]

Only six players in the league last year averaged over 30ppg.

1. Embiid
2. Luka
3. Dame
4. SGA
5. Giannis
6. Tatum

We now have two of them on our roster.

And Middleton and Lopez. Team is probably looking around the locker room thinking "we don't even need to play defense."

They have been proving that.