ImageImageImage

Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19

Moderators: bisme37, Parliament10, shackles10, snowman, Froob, Darthlukey, canman1971, Shak_Celts

What was most Ass-of-Shameful?

Terrible shot selection
14
15%
Lack of aggressiveness
10
11%
Defense not good enough
5
5%
Tatum sucked
36
38%
Another player sucked
3
3%
I hate losing to the Warriors
5
5%
TNT announcers made me want to rip my ears off
2
2%
Other
1
1%
Coach
18
19%
Team
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 94

GrandTheftRondo
RealGM
Posts: 10,273
And1: 10,829
Joined: Dec 02, 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#281 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:18 pm

165bows wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:No, I don't mean replace him. Stash him in a corner. Pre-switch just so he's away from the play. Other teams do it. We've done it in past seasons. We have guards who can fight through screens and chase. Try something else other than Horford on a drop or in an island.

I think the drop thing is being ridiculously overblown. Was the same in the finals, outside of that game 1 he just continually hit ridiculous shots. Not much you can do sometimes.

Curry scored 33 points. Pretty standard sort of game for him.

Almost all of the shots he hit were well defended.

There was one stinker where nobody went near Curry and he drained a long 3. It happens.

It’s also very hard to hide defenders in today’s NBA, especially when you’re playing someone like Curry who will just continually hunt the mismatch.

The bigger problem was the lack of offence late and Klay Thompson was also hitting tough threes.

Generally agree with this. C's lost that series because of their offense. They could have been better on D but they were good enough on D to win, just couldn't generate the right shots and score.

The whole concept of the drop defence is to keep the other Warriors quiet which is what I think gets missed.

Teams tried trapping Curry and along with Draymond they just exploit the resulting 4 on 3 with ease.

Switching can work but Curry will continually look to get by the big and then pick holes in the help defence.

Like LeBron he will manage to get his. The way to win defensively has always been to ensure the rest of the roster stays quiet.

Klay hit tough threes as well and got a couple of open ones from Curry which I ultimately think was the difference. Klay was big in keeping them around when we looked like running away with it.
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,970
And1: 17,392
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#282 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:20 pm

We'll have our chance in March.

Let's see if the Warriors can sweep the season series.
sam_I_am
RealGM
Posts: 16,738
And1: 9,530
Joined: Jul 10, 2004

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#283 » by sam_I_am » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:20 pm

Still shocked to see that White jacked up 18 3s. Great to see him becoming so assertive. Wish he hit a few of the late ones hitting 39% of that many is okay with me. One positive to take out of a bad loss along with Queta.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
GrandTheftRondo
RealGM
Posts: 10,273
And1: 10,829
Joined: Dec 02, 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#284 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:22 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:[
Curry hits an absolute bomb desperation rainbow.

Curry is just a ridiculous hard cover for any defence because he looks for any sliver of daylight and when he gets it he is deadly.


Yes, to make the lead 4 pts with 10 seconds to go. That was the game. As others have noted, the Celtics did not shoot well. The playoff atmosphere in the arena contributed to that, which is something this team is going to have to figure out. We've seen it before.

Yeah just reminded me of a few of the playoff horror shows we’ve had.

The shots stop falling, the opposition makes a run and their crowd goes nuts and we just completely forget how we got the lead offensively.

Always then resort to walk it up offence and bad shots.

Every loss or near miss like this is the same. We look near unstoppable in the third and then slowly throw away the lead.
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,575
And1: 101,363
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#285 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:36 pm

Per CTG, this was our 2nd worst defensive performance based on defensive rating. Gave up 124.5 points per 100 possessions. 3rd worst was against Indiana in the IST.

Warriors offensive rating prior to this game: 115.6. Celtics defensive rating prior to this game: 109.4.

EDIT: Actually, we did well first 3 quarters on defense. 4th quarter? Allowed 1.75 points per possession.
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,575
And1: 101,363
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#286 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:43 pm

Read on Twitter

Better now than in the Finals, I guess.
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
User avatar
ThirtyFour
Starter
Posts: 2,170
And1: 3,503
Joined: Jul 15, 2010
       

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#287 » by ThirtyFour » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:46 pm

You’ve heard of the ‘Hospital Celtics’, but have you heard of the ‘Deer in the Headlight Celtics’? You should, they’ve been on display for several years now.
“There’s a sense of pride, there’s an edge you have to have to play here. I can only imagine the love, the reception, if you hung one of those banners up. It would be incredible — it’s going to be incredible. I know it.” —Jayson Tatum
ThePigeon
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,810
And1: 2,941
Joined: Feb 25, 2004
 

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#288 » by ThePigeon » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:56 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Read on Twitter

Celtics now 2-6 when making less than 1/3 of their threes.


It is all in their head. Hands shaking, trying too much or with too little force
Still scared of the Warriors

I hope they are not still scared of Miami
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,575
And1: 101,363
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#289 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:01 pm

Read on Twitter

Wasted a good offensive performance from him even if I thought he could've driven more and used his float game. Pretty much covered for JT's absence on that end.

BTW, Tatum is now sub-60% in TS%. Trending the wrong way.
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,970
And1: 17,392
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#290 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:02 pm

ThePigeon wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Read on Twitter

Celtics now 2-6 when making less than 1/3 of their threes.


It is all in their head. Hands shaking, trying too much or with too little force
Still scared of the Warriors

I hope they are not still scared of Miami

Cs already beat Miami this season.

Miami's not going to be a problem as long as KP is playing.

There's just no answer for KP, if you're Miami.
User avatar
Celts17Pride
RealGM
Posts: 68,868
And1: 70,969
Joined: Nov 27, 2005

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#291 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Hauser doing his best Antoine Walker imitation last night didn't help either. Has to be better than that.
Ben-N1ce
RealGM
Posts: 21,847
And1: 20,255
Joined: Jul 18, 2009
       

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#292 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:12 pm

Make or miss league blah blah. That is not relevant to the franchise player playing like a pile of rubbish. He's definitely not playing the way he's capable of for a while now.
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,575
And1: 101,363
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#293 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:13 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Hauser doing his best Antoine Walker imitation last night didn't help either. Has to be better than that.

Yep, but role players usually shoot better at home than road.

Hauser:
50.6% from 3 at home.
35.5% from 3 on road.

Pritchard:
47.3% from 3 at home.
25.6% from 3 on road.
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,970
And1: 17,392
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#294 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:16 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:Make or miss league blah blah. That is not relevant to the franchise player playing like a pile of rubbish. He's definitely not playing the way he's capable of for a while now.

Saving it for May and June. :lol:

This is good news.

Franchise player playing like a pile of rubbish and the Cs are still the #1 team in the east.
User avatar
31to6
RealGM
Posts: 20,713
And1: 31,266
Joined: Nov 20, 2004
Location: Tatum train

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#295 » by 31to6 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:33 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Ben-N1ce wrote:Make or miss league blah blah. That is not relevant to the franchise player playing like a pile of rubbish. He's definitely not playing the way he's capable of for a while now.

Saving it for May and June. :lol:

This is good news.

Franchise player playing like a pile of rubbish and the Cs are still the #1 team in the east.


sure, but: get a better shot at the end of regulation.
figure out who needs to say what to make that happen.
(my preference: no TO, keep Curry and CP3 on the court, just run a high ball screen involving *any* two players to generate a good look for *any* player)
Paul Pierce appreciation society.
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,970
And1: 17,392
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#296 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:36 pm

31to6 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Ben-N1ce wrote:Make or miss league blah blah. That is not relevant to the franchise player playing like a pile of rubbish. He's definitely not playing the way he's capable of for a while now.

Saving it for May and June. :lol:

This is good news.

Franchise player playing like a pile of rubbish and the Cs are still the #1 team in the east.


sure, but: get a better shot at the end of regulation.
figure out who needs to say what to make that happen.
(my preference: no TO, keep Curry and CP3 on the court, just run a high ball screen involving *any* two players to generate a good look for *any* player)

We're all in agreement that he should try to get a better shot at the end of regulation.

The problem is his brain doesn't work that way.
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,575
And1: 101,363
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#297 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:37 pm

Read on Twitter

Start offense early = good
Slow down possession = bad

Got it.
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
Ben-N1ce
RealGM
Posts: 21,847
And1: 20,255
Joined: Jul 18, 2009
       

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#298 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:39 pm

Did Joe ever use the extra timeout he saved in the overtime period?
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,970
And1: 17,392
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#299 » by Fierce1 » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:45 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:Did Joe ever use the extra timeout he saved in the overtime period?

Maybe at the postgame press conference he called timeout. :lol:
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,575
And1: 101,363
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celts Stink Up The Bay, Can't Get the Dub! Loss vs GSW 12/19 

Post#300 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:46 pm

I'm no longer mad so I can just chuckle at this.
Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Be better, Cs.
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░

Return to Boston Celtics