Postgame thread: Knicks @ Hornets

[3toheadmelo]

It's fair game if Iron and other people gonna keep trolling about Randle for no reason. Aint nobody was talking about him until Iron and his crew hopped in

Bashing KAT won't bring Randle back.

Deflecting to Randle isn't going to fix KAT's terrible defense.

[NoLayupRule]

it sure feels as though people here are rooting for KAT to fail

I dont get it

[NoLayupRule]

some people would seemingly prefer to be right on a message board than watch their team succeed

[stuporman]

it sure feels as though people here are rooting for KAT to fail

I dont get it

It's almost sigworthy....oh wait.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Until Mitch comes back and shows he's the same player (or better), I think the starting lineup should be:

Towns
Precious
OG
Mikal
Brunson

And you take Mikal out at the 6-7 minute mark then out him back in at around the 3 minute mark to run the second unit. And then you can close the 4th with him, assuming it makes sense.

Sort of like that RJ role, except better.

I’m def on team Start Precious but Thibs mantra is no starting line up changes until game 20. Unless things really fall apart I’m the preseason this is the starting line up until December.

[stuporman]

some people would seemingly prefer to be right on a message board than watch their team succeed

hmmm interesting take

[3toheadmelo]

Saying KAT should be at the 4 isn't rooting him to fail. That's helping the team be successful versus when he's at the 5.

[Iron Mantis]

It's fair game if Iron and other people gonna keep trolling about Randle for no reason. Aint nobody was talking about him until Iron and his crew hopped in

Bashing KAT won't bring Randle back.

Deflecting to Randle isn't going to fix KAT's terrible defense.

Randle's defense was worse than KAT.'s....and thankfully he's gone forever.

This is your team now.

If you want to fill our board with troll spam bashing our newly acquired 4x All-Star(before he even has a chance here) as a way of retaliating against folks speaking against Randle, you should go root for Randle on the wolves board.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=22

Bye

[3toheadmelo]

Bashing KAT won't bring Randle back.

Deflecting to Randle isn't going to fix KAT's terrible defense.

Randle's defense was worse than KAT.'s....and thankfully he's gone forever.

This is your team now.

If you want to fill our board with troll spam bashing our newly acquired 4x All-Star(before he even has a chance here) as a way of retaliating against folks speaking against Randle, you should go root for Randle on the wolves board.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=22

Bye

You're the one posting Anti Randle stuff 24/7 when he isn't even on the team anymore. Why can't you move on from him? For 5 years straight you trolled the board about it. Sounds like you still have the itch to do it even with Randle gone. Sad.

Posting metrics that support my arguments isn't trolling, unlike you who spammed the board with pro RJ and Obi arguments just to spite Randle with zero substance to backup your claims.

You should go to the Toronto board, since you're always posting all of his games in the around the nba thread every time he played like a scorned ex.


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[Deeeez Knicks]

A floor spacing big is probably more critical then a rim protecting big at this point in the league

Name a single team that has won without a rim protecting big or a wing/forward that can protect the rim? In NBA history. Like there's no archetype of player more consistently impactful than a rim protector, no matter the era. The best shots are still dunks and layups. An uncontested layup is a damn near 90% shot.

Looked it up the Celtics and Wolves were the 2 best rim defending teams last year. Post trade deadline the Mavericks were the best rim defending team last year.

In 2023 the Nuggets allowed the least amount of points inside of 6 feet per game in the playoffs.

The 2022 Warriors were 5th *lowest in points allowed inside of 6 feet.

The 2021 Bucks allowed the fewest points inside of 6 feet.

Like what NBA are y'all watching where rim defenders are dead? The one where Gafford/Lively vs Gobert/KAT determined the WCF and where Horford/KP were key players on the championship squad?

Team defense is way more important these days then just one shot blocker that roams the paint. The good teams have that floor spacing big that basically takes the guys like Gobert, Gafford, etc out of the paint. We have great wing defenders that can help cover. Plus we still have Mitch coming back so we can mix and match as needed.

Every recent team had floor spacing bigs too. That was something we really needed. Randle at 30% from 3 + a non shooting C just wasnt going to be good enough.

So ideally we can play multiple different ways and can match up better against teams like the celtics.

[stuporman]

I know a member can be banned from a specific forum but I wonder if a mod can force a member to only be allowed to post on a certain forum...that would be funny.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Naz blocked 2 of Murray shots and 2 of Joker's(same play). He was free to roam the floor while KAT was the primary defender, a role OG should be playing. If I find video, I'll post it.

OG can't block shots like NAW and Naz.

OG defends 6 shots per 100 at the rim and holds opponents to -6% shooting. Naz defends twice as many shots just as effectively (11.4 shots at -6) and NAW is slightly better than OG.

KAT's defense worked because he had sufficient help inside, help we don't have outside of Mitch and Precious.

He's not a C defensively, not by a long shot and you're just agreeing with me here when you say this. OG isn't sufficient as the low man that's easy buckets it's just not what he does. He's a man to man guy in the low post like KAT that needs a low man behind him like KAT.

If you read my post, I do agree we need someone protecting the rim. My point is the following: 1. The trade doesn't correlate to that being a fact. This was a need before the trade. So, to keep talking about it like the trade effected this is disingenuous (and this is not necessarily pertaining to you). 2. He's better than what we sent out.

We actually gained size and shot blocking with this trade

[Iron Mantis]

Deflecting to Randle isn't going to fix KAT's terrible defense.

Randle's defense was worse than KAT.'s....and thankfully he's gone forever.

This is your team now.

If you want to fill our board with troll spam bashing our newly acquired 4x All-Star(before he even has a chance here) as a way of retaliating against folks speaking against Randle, you should go root for Randle on the wolves board.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=22

Bye

You're the one posting Anti Randle stuff 24/7 when he isn't even on the team anymore. Why can't you move on from him? For 5 years straight you trolled the board about it. Sounds like you still have the itch to do it even with Randle gone. Sad.

Posting metrics that support my arguments isn't trolling, unlike you who spammed the board with pro RJ and Obi arguments just to spite Randle with zero substance to backup your claims.

You should go to the Toronto board, since you're always posting all of his games in the around the nba thread every time he played like a scorned ex.


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You're trolling us, Kendra. Randle is gone forever.

Twolves board called ..they're missing you.


https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=22

[god shammgod]

i'm sure some of you guys on your high horse have criticized a member of the knicks once or twice. you must have wanted them to fail at the time. sad.

[3toheadmelo]

i'm sure some of you guys on your high horse have criticized a member of the knicks once or twice. you must have wanted them to fail at the time. sad.

We can't even have healthy debates with metrics on here anymore. What happened to this place

[3toheadmelo]

Randle's defense was worse than KAT.'s....and thankfully he's gone forever.

This is your team now.

If you want to fill our board with troll spam bashing our newly acquired 4x All-Star(before he even has a chance here) as a way of retaliating against folks speaking against Randle, you should go root for Randle on the wolves board.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=22

Bye

You're the one posting Anti Randle stuff 24/7 when he isn't even on the team anymore. Why can't you move on from him? For 5 years straight you trolled the board about it. Sounds like you still have the itch to do it even with Randle gone. Sad.

Posting metrics that support my arguments isn't trolling, unlike you who spammed the board with pro RJ and Obi arguments just to spite Randle with zero substance to backup your claims.

You should go to the Toronto board, since you're always posting all of his games in the around the nba thread every time he played like a scorned ex.


viewforum.php?f=32

You're trolling us, Kendra. Randle is gone forever.

Twolves board called ..they're missing you.


https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=22

Well damn Iron. I was expecting you to defend yourself from what I said about you, but it looks like you have nothing to say about it. Full admittance to being a troll for 5 years straight and rooting for RJ and Obi over the team. Wow. Thanks for admitting it!

[Iron Mantis]

it sure feels as though people here are rooting for KAT to fail

I dont get it

That is exactly what is happening... And you know who is the ringleader of it and why

[god shammgod]

i'm sure some of you guys on your high horse have criticized a member of the knicks once or twice. you must have wanted them to fail at the time. sad.

We can't even have healthy debates with metrics on here anymore. What happened to this place

this place is just like everywhere else, this is discourse in this country nowadays. "i don't want to hear anything i don't fully agree with. and i want the people saying it gone if they don't stop saying it"

[stuporman]

i'm sure some of you guys on your high horse have criticized a member of the knicks once or twice. you must have wanted them to fail at the time. sad.

Do you mean once or twice in your life or once or twice a minute? Asking for a friend...

[El Poochio]

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