Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[Manocad]

With Grant and Kelly O on the market, there's a solid chance we end up with another first this year.

That would be the dream come true and I hope like hell that deal is out there.

[El Chivo]

With Grant and Kelly O on the market, there's a solid chance we end up with another first this year.

Kelly O is not a positive asset.

[Kalamazoo317]

With Grant and Kelly O on the market, there's a solid chance we end up with another first this year.

Kelly O is not a positive asset.

Eye of the beholder. He only needs to have value for one other team.

[edmunder_prc]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

[Manocad]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

If the feeling is you have to move Grant to make room for Paolo and there are no other deals for Grant out there, I don't see why not. Although I don't know why you'd have to throw Diallo in; Grant + #5 to move up one spot should be enough IMO assuming you're just taking garbage salary back to make the trade work. I know if I were on the other side of that trade, needed a forward like Grant and could get him by dropping one spot I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

[MotownMadness]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

Im hoping this happens and i could see a team like Sacramento who's desperate to win moving down a spot for Grant.

[mattao313]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

If banchero is there I'd think it take more to get him. Id definitely want him tho.

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[edmunder_prc]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

If the feeling is you have to move Grant to make room for Paolo and there are no other deals for Grant out there, I don't see why not. Although I don't know why you'd have to throw Diallo in; Grant + #5 to move up one spot should be enough IMO assuming you're just taking garbage salary back to make the trade work. I know if I were on the other side of that trade, needed a forward like Grant and could get him by dropping one spot I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

Looking at their contracts, its Barnes. He makes what Grant makes.

So is dumping Barnes and upgrading worth losing out? They probably get a better offer somewhere else.

But I think Ivey is going top 3 somehow. He is electric.

[coolness]

I won't be surprised if Banchero is better at center than pf. Big, speed less important, and in 2022, we're less impressed with blocks than ever.

[Jsindto]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

If the feeling is you have to move Grant to make room for Paolo and there are no other deals for Grant out there, I don't see why not. Although I don't know why you'd have to throw Diallo in; Grant + #5 to move up one spot should be enough IMO assuming you're just taking garbage salary back to make the trade work. I know if I were on the other side of that trade, needed a forward like Grant and could get him by dropping one spot I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

Depends on how SAC view Murray vs Paolo. If they like Paolo just slightly more, then they do that trade. If they like him much more, they probably don't. Similarly, if the Pistons only like Paolo slightly more than Murray, they don't do that trade.

If I'm SAC, I probably would rather have Paolo than Grant and Murray. But that's mostly because I wouldn't want to pay Grant $25M a year. If they really like him and are willing to commit to that, and they think that a starting 5 of Fox-Mitchell-Grant-Murray-Sabonis is a contending team (let's say by 2023-24), then sure.

For the Pistons, it's probably looking at having Paolo vs having Murray and what you can get back for Grant. If your return for Grant is meh, like the Hawks rumored trade is, then I'd rather have Paolo. If we're talking Murray and pick #7, I'd rather have that probably.

Edit: I actually just looked at the Kings cap space for NEXT offseason, and they are actually in a very good situation. They literally would only have Fox, Sabonis, Holmes, Mitchell, Grant (extended), and Murray on the books. That's only about $100M. They'd have enough to land a max contract player and also fill out a roster. So maybe if they think the can jump up to a solid playoff team in 2022-23 and then lure a big time FA next offseason after showing they have a strong team, there is logic to the trade. I would argue though that they may not be drastically better with an essential Grant/Murray flip from Barnes/Paolo this upcoming season.

[buzzkilloton]

The best breakdown of Sharpe I've heard.

Watch on YouTube

[buzzkilloton]

Just seen this one that came out today right after. Sam V knows whats up Ivey or Sharpe is the way.

Watch on YouTube

[zeebneeb]

I am really starting to get the feeling that Ivey is gonna break up the concensus top 3. If thats the case, Weaver needs to get in on that Sacramento pick, as it's known they are shopping it. Weaver has a bunch of assets that would absolutely fit, and help Sacramento win now.

Things could get really damn interesting come draft night.

[whitehops]

finally watched some scouting reports on shaedon sharpe and i get so many pre-GSW andrew wiggins vibes from him. both have insane verticals but aren't amazing functional athletes, both are more jump shot reliant, not natural play makers, don't finish well inside, etc.

definitely not seeing the upside that he's hyped as having.

[LaSheed]

I am really starting to get the feeling that Ivey is gonna break up the concensus top 3. If thats the case, Weaver needs to get in on that Sacramento pick, as it's known they are shopping it. Weaver has a bunch of assets that would absolutely fit, and help Sacramento win now.

Things could get really damn interesting come draft night.

Paolo going #5 is +9500 for those wanting to take a risk. Just remember Suggs last year!!!

[mattao313]

I am really starting to get the feeling that Ivey is gonna break up the concensus top 3. If thats the case, Weaver needs to get in on that Sacramento pick, as it's known they are shopping it. Weaver has a bunch of assets that would absolutely fit, and help Sacramento win now.

Things could get really damn interesting come draft night.

Meh if I'm Sacramento I'd rather have any of the top 3 over all these so called assets we have (who?). I can understand them not being as interested in Ivey cause they have a guy so similar already in fox but banchero, smith, or Chet seem like good fits.

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[FloridaMan78]

finally watched some scouting reports on shaedon sharpe and i get so many pre-GSW andrew wiggins vibes from him. both have insane verticals but aren't amazing functional athletes, both are more jump shot reliant, not natural play makers, don't finish well inside, etc.

definitely not seeing the upside that he's hyped as having.

The bet on him is that he learns some of Hardens dribble move drives. If he does that he’ll be a monster. It’s a big if. I think it’s easier to learn to dribble than learn to shoot.

[BoogieTime]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

If this were posted on the Kings board you would unanimously be told that Barnes isn't worse than Grant, but on the same tier of player. Barnes is much more efficient, for instance. In the end they are both solid 3/4 combos. So, I don't see the dump?

I could see a potential move up for Grant, but it would have to work around Holiday/Len/Harkless and whatever salary the Kings could potentially throw in if its feasible (I haven't seen the salary sheet).

But the scenario would be for Ivey, if the Kings don't like him, most likely. The Kings have options at SG, and he might not fit with Fox.

I don't see Ivey jumping.

The issue is none of Orlando/OKC/Houston have any need for a SG offensively or defensively (with Suggs/SGA/Green). And Ivey is a SG in that he isnt a lead playmaker and you wouldnt want him guarding PG. Same reason Sharpe most likely wont jump, hes a SG

[The Moose]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

If this were posted on the Kings board you would unanimously be told that Barnes isn't worse than Grant, but on the same tier of player. Barnes is much more efficient, for instance. In the end they are both solid 3/4 combos. So, I don't see the dump?

I could see a potential move up for Grant, but it would have to work around Holiday/Len/Harkless and whatever salary the Kings could potentially throw in if its feasible (I haven't seen the salary sheet).

But the scenario would be for Ivey, if the Kings don't like him, most likely. The Kings have options at SG, and he might not fit with Fox.

I don't see Ivey jumping.

The issue is none of Orlando/OKC/Houston have any need for a SG offensively or defensively (with Suggs/SGA/Green). And Ivey is a SG in that he isnt a lead playmaker and you wouldnt want him guarding PG.

what about Grant/5 for Holmes/4

[BoogieTime]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

If this were posted on the Kings board you would unanimously be told that Barnes isn't worse than Grant, but on the same tier of player. Barnes is much more efficient, for instance. In the end they are both solid 3/4 combos. So, I don't see the dump?

I could see a potential move up for Grant, but it would have to work around Holiday/Len/Harkless and whatever salary the Kings could potentially throw in if its feasible (I haven't seen the salary sheet).

But the scenario would be for Ivey, if the Kings don't like him, most likely. The Kings have options at SG, and he might not fit with Fox.

I don't see Ivey jumping.

The issue is none of Orlando/OKC/Houston have any need for a SG offensively or defensively (with Suggs/SGA/Green). And Ivey is a SG in that he isnt a lead playmaker and you wouldnt want him guarding PG.

what about Grant/5 for Holmes/4

Thats better.