Lakers no longer require extension from Dwight Howard

[The Infamous1]

TS% is the best measure of efficiency because it takes everything Into account. You seem upset

It takes free throws in account which Bryant had a lot of those 3 games. Of course you're TS% IS going to boost when you go 18-18/14-17/5-7. I'm sure it was his 9-25 shooting that won game 3 for the Lakers. I understand you want Kobe to look like he preformed better than he did.

Yea I know. It takes everything into account and thats why i use it. Fg's, 3PT,Free throws. Raw FG% is a terrible measure of efficiency.

[sonicFLAME6]

Bryant hasn't done anything significant in the playoffs in 2 years, but we're all quivering in our boots at the idea of him suddenly imposing his GOAT will on the league?

A lot of people still think Kobe is great, but have moved on for players like James and Durant. Just how it is. That is what happens when you haven't been at the party in some time.

30/5/4 isn't significant?

Last 3 games against OKC


38-7-6-2-55% TS
38-8-5-2-55% TS
42-5-2-59% TS

One of the most underrated aspects of that series is that Kobe "figured out" Sefolasha the same way Durant did to Artest. With Nash around Kobe will be able to work more off the ball (again like Durant does to Artest) and that changes the complexion of the series IMO. Now all they need is Dwight's mobility to replace Bynum's weakness in the pick and roll. I think the Lakers have a clear advantage if the D12 trade goes down. If they can get a SF with range it's basically a wrap for the Western Conference.

Kobe figured out Sef? Yet he still coughed up a couple of those games. The Lakers were giving up games at will in the 4th qt while OKC was executing at will. Kobe at this point is a glorified jump shooter and it took 42 FTs for LA to win 1 vs OKC. Nash makes them better but I still have OKC as the favorite in the West.

[VCRJKidd15]

I don't see how Nash/Kobe/filler/Pau/Howard is runaway better than Chalmers/Wade/Lebron/Bosh/Filler. Lakers still have zero shooters and Miami just added another GOAT level shooter.

GOAT level shooter years ago. He avg 10 shots this past season and it's only gonna go down more on a team with more shooters.

[vincecarter4pres]

Right now, the Lakers still have no chance against the OKC Thunder. Nash is not enough to bring them over the hump. OKC core players have even more experience and probably will perform at a higher level. So you basically only have 1 team in the West who is going to compete for a finals appearance. Spurs are older. Everybody else is rebuilding or trying to reload. It goes both ways.

Oh come off it man.

Of course the Lakers have a incredibly legit shot at beating OKC just by adding Nash.

They were contenders last year, now they are legit contenders.

Regardless, wherever Dwight goes, the league isn't going to dramtically increase "competitive balance." Miami is probably going to have another finals appearance. OKC is probably going to have another finals appearance. In the 90's, the Bulls went to the finals 6 times. In the 00's, the Spurs and Lakers combined for 9 finals appearances.

But there were teams at the beginning of the season and then during and even into the playoffs that had a hands down legit shot to win the chip.

This trade goes down there are 3 and 3 only and even Chicago with a 100% Rose will not make 4.

[nikomCH]

TS% is the best measure of efficiency because it takes everything Into account. You seem upset

It takes free throws in account which Bryant had a lot of those 3 games. Of course you're TS% IS going to boost when you go 18-18/14-17/5-7. I'm sure it was his 9-25 shooting that won game 3 for the Lakers. I understand you want Kobe to look like he preformed better than he did.

Points from FTs count every bit as much as points from FGs. If you can't understand that then stop speaking about stats when your brain clearly doesn't have the ability to grasp such a simple concept.

[Day in the Life]

I don't see how Nash/Kobe/filler/Pau/Howard is runaway better than Chalmers/Wade/Lebron/Bosh/Filler. Lakers still have zero shooters and Miami just added another GOAT level shooter.

GOAT level shooter years ago. He avg 10 shots this past season and it's only gonna go down more on a team with more shooters.

Lakers still can't compete on the perimeter. Miami has a plethora of them, Lakers have only 1 player in Nash.

[ShowTimeERA]

We do know what they're thinking, there's no pretending here.

No extension, no trade. That's it.

Thank you for setting the record straight, Mr.Kupchak...

[VCRJKidd15]

TS% is the best measure of efficiency because it takes everything Into account. You seem upset

It takes free throws in account which Bryant had a lot of those 3 games. Of course you're TS% IS going to boost when you go 18-18/14-17/5-7. I'm sure it was his 9-25 shooting that won game 3 for the Lakers. I understand you want Kobe to look like he preformed better than he did.

Points from FTs count every bit as much as points from FGs. If you can't understand that then stop speaking about stats when your brain clearly doesn't have the ability to grasp such a simple concept.

Thanks for telling me something I already know?

[vincecarter4pres]

We do know what they're thinking, there's no pretending here.

No extension, no trade. That's it.

Thank you for setting the record straight, Mr.Kupchak...

Trade would be done already if they didn't need an extension, what's not to understand here?

Don't believe this BS you hear.

If the trade goes down, believe me he either signs an extension or has given trustworthy assurance he will re-up in the offseason for the full 5.

They are not trading for him while he is telling them, I will not resign period.

[VCRJKidd15]

I don't see how Nash/Kobe/filler/Pau/Howard is runaway better than Chalmers/Wade/Lebron/Bosh/Filler. Lakers still have zero shooters and Miami just added another GOAT level shooter.

GOAT level shooter years ago. He avg 10 shots this past season and it's only gonna go down more on a team with more shooters.

Lakers still can't compete on the perimeter. Miami has a plethora of them, Lakers have only 1 player in Nash.

I can't say if that's true or not I'm was just adding that Ray Allen isn't that much of a threat people are making it out to be

[GoldenKnight]

We have one of the best passers of all time to create looks for 2 7 footers that the Heat do not have, one of them being one of the most skilled PFs and the other the 2nd best C in the NBA, combine that with a finisher like Kobe and don't forget that passer (Nash) can also shoot the ball very well. Teams have the right to be afraid.

[BballTechnique]

This trade goes down, it's 3 teams and 3 teams only, not even the hope of a fringe faux contender breaking through.

That's because of horrible coaching, injuries, and mismanagement.

- The Clippers are loaded but horribly coached
- Dallas let their championship team walk
- The Bulls are a great team when healthy
- The Spurs have been loaded since the Richard Jefferson trade and blew it every year
- Boston trading Kendrick Perkins has to be the worst trade in a long time

[Day in the Life]

Oh come off it man.

Of course the Lakers have a incredibly legit shot at beating OKC just by adding Nash.

They were contenders last year, now they are legit contenders.

OKC just got even better through the draft with Jones. They're even more athletic, while the Lakers are still fumbling with their frontcourt in Pau/Bynum. A main problem defensively with the Lakers was their transition defense (particularly the bigs loafing from end to end, with the Laker smalls defending the OKC bigs). Howard solves that problem. Without Howard, they're still relying on Bynum to help Nash...that's a terrible combination. Ibaka is obviously the OKC's backbone on help defense. They got more firepower with Jones. We all thought San Antonio's "vet experience and coaching" could overcome speed and athleticism on the frontcourt, but it wasn't enough.

[MannyRam99]

I don't see how Nash/Kobe/filler/Pau/Howard is runaway better than Chalmers/Wade/Lebron/Bosh/Filler. Lakers still have zero shooters and Miami just added another GOAT level shooter.

Nash himself is one of the GOAT shooters, stats suggest he is a top 3 shooter of all time. With the combination of doubles attracted by Kobe/Bynum/Gasol, Nash will get some looks.

[vincecarter4pres]

Oh come off it man.

Of course the Lakers have a incredibly legit shot at beating OKC just by adding Nash.

They were contenders last year, now they are legit contenders.

OKC just got even better through the draft with Jones. They're even more athletic, while the Lakers are still fumbling with their frontcourt in Pau/Bynum. A main problem defensively with the Lakers was their transition defense (particularly the bigs loafing from end to end, with the Laker smalls defending the OKC bigs). Howard solves that problem. Without Howard, they're still relying on Bynum to help Nash...that's a terrible combination. Ibaka is obviously the OKC's backbone on help defense. They got more firepower with Jones. We all thought San Antonio's "vet experience and coaching" could overcome speed and athleticism on the frontcourt, but it wasn't enough.

RealGM. Where the addition of an athletic scrub rookie with a late 1st > Steve Nash

[World Peace]

Honesty is the best because u can move on or accept your partner.. I rather know a girl today then find out tomorrow.vice versa.

Source: Metta World Peace

[ShowTimeERA]

Trade would be done already if they didn't need an extension, what's not to understand here?

Don't believe this BS you hear.

If the trade goes down, believe me he either signs an extension or has given trustworthy assurance he will re-up in the offseason for the full 5.

They are not trading for him while he is telling them, I will not resign period.

The issue is we have two different franchises looking to trade for Howard. One will not be taken as a fool in the sense of absorbing horrible contracts while the other is...That's the hold up.

[Day in the Life]

Oh come off it man.

Of course the Lakers have a incredibly legit shot at beating OKC just by adding Nash.

They were contenders last year, now they are legit contenders.

OKC just got even better through the draft with Jones. They're even more athletic, while the Lakers are still fumbling with their frontcourt in Pau/Bynum. A main problem defensively with the Lakers was their transition defense (particularly the bigs loafing from end to end, with the Laker smalls defending the OKC bigs). Howard solves that problem. Without Howard, they're still relying on Bynum to help Nash...that's a terrible combination. Ibaka is obviously the OKC's backbone on help defense. They got more firepower with Jones. We all thought San Antonio's "vet experience and coaching" could overcome speed and athleticism on the frontcourt, but it wasn't enough.

RealGM. Where the addition of an athletic scrub rookie with a late 1st > Steve Nash

Realgm. Where posters choose to ignore other people's arguments and choose what they want to hear. OKC have more experience. More growth from their core in Westbrook/Harden/Durant. Lakers are regressing with an older Kobe/Pau. Bynum is still a headcase. Also that late 1st was a steal for them.

[ShowTimeERA]

Honesty is the best because u can move on or accept your partner.. I rather know a girl today then find out tomorrow.vice versa.

Source: Metta World Peace

The next 48hrs will be very interesting, that's for sure...

[World Peace]

Oh come off it man.

Of course the Lakers have a incredibly legit shot at beating OKC just by adding Nash.

They were contenders last year, now they are legit contenders.

OKC just got even better through the draft with Jones. They're even more athletic, while the Lakers are still fumbling with their frontcourt in Pau/Bynum. A main problem defensively with the Lakers was their transition defense (particularly the bigs loafing from end to end, with the Laker smalls defending the OKC bigs). Howard solves that problem. Without Howard, they're still relying on Bynum to help Nash...that's a terrible combination. Ibaka is obviously the OKC's backbone on help defense. They got more firepower with Jones. We all thought San Antonio's "vet experience and coaching" could overcome speed and athleticism on the frontcourt, but it wasn't enough.

RealGM. Where the addition of an athletic scrub rookie with a late 1st > Steve Nash

It's quite simple really. The Lakers could easily beat Oklahoma City without Nash. Now they'd added Nash who is as good as any point guard outside of maybe Chris Paul yet they can't beat OKC?