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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6

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What is Aaron Gordon worth?

$25-29m a year ($29m is max)
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$20-25m a year
6
10%
$18-20m a year
11
19%
$15-18m a year
19
33%
$12-15m a year
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31%
Less than $12m a year
4
7%
 
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#301 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 5:51 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I was going over stats, and man, I don't even think I would trade Warren straight up for Gordon. I know Gordon is more entertaining, and likely has a higher ceiling, but he might be getting paid roughly $25 million a year, while Warren is getting $11 million, but is doing it on much better efficiently. Plus, Warren is putting up the same amount of steals, close to the same amount of free throws per game but on better percentages, and is turning the ball over. Like I said, much more efficient. The only reason I would want AG is because he can shoot threes at a decent clip, and again, the highlight factor. Plus, he is more of a 4, and we could potentially have Josh Jackson starting at the 3, instead of at the 2.

Anyway, what is everyone's thoughts on trading for AG? What would you be willing to offer to trade for him, and what kind of contract would you be comfortable with him getting?


I wouldn't trade for him. I don't think they will trade him anyway barring a great offer. He has really only shot well this season, and really only for the first month. He puts up decent stats on a bad team, but if we were to pay him $20 million or whatever, that would be the end of our free agent spending for the foreseeable future with Booker getting a max. Couldn't talk about any big names and we'd have to hope Booker/Gordon are enough to lead the team to glory, along with whoever we pick and Jackson.

I think our PFs, or at least one of them could very well end up better than Gordon, and they are both cheap for the next two seasons.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#302 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 5:54 pm

Russell isn't available.

If we draft Young or Doncic in the draft, would anyone be up for signing Favors in the off season to play C? I'm guessing it wouldn't cost too much.

Even if just on a 1 or 2 year deal?
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#303 » by LukasBMW » Tue Feb 6, 2018 5:54 pm

This is exactly why I didn't want to let Monroe go before the deadline:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/248861/LeBron-James-Wont-Waive-No-Trade-Clause-At-Deadline

Things could blow up at this deadline. We might miss out on an opportunity to either get a star CHEAP or be looters and come away with free assets.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#304 » by LukasBMW » Tue Feb 6, 2018 5:54 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Russell isn't available.

If we draft Young or Doncic in the draft, would anyone be up for signing Favors in the off season to play C? I'm guessing it wouldn't cost too much.

Even if just on a 1 or 2 year deal?


Better than Len, but I'd rather give Okafor a shot.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#305 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Feb 6, 2018 5:55 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/248860/Celtics-Seek-FRP-For-Marcus-Smart-To-Flip-For-Lou-Williams-Or-Tyreke-Evans

If no one offers the first, maybe two seconds gets it done. In which case, two seconds for Marcus Smart? I'd consider it.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#306 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:01 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/248860/Celtics-Seek-FRP-For-Marcus-Smart-To-Flip-For-Lou-Williams-Or-Tyreke-Evans

If no one offers the first, maybe two seconds gets it done. In which case, two seconds for Marcus Smart? I'd consider it.


Not that I don't think he's worth two seconds, but I don't really want to pay him on his second contract, unless it was a minimal amount. I suppose we could match anything up to like $5-7 million a year or let him walk, but we really need shooters.

Edit: That tweet and their demands are ridiculous...so they want cap relief (with an expiring) AND a good player who can help them in playoffs in Tyreke or Lou AND a first for Smart? That's crazy.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#307 » by King4Day » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:01 pm

LukasBMW wrote:This is exactly why I didn't want to let Monroe go before the deadline:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/248861/LeBron-James-Wont-Waive-No-Trade-Clause-At-Deadline

Things could blow up at this deadline. We might miss out on an opportunity to either get a star CHEAP or be looters and come away with free assets.


Gotta remember, we still have a good amount of cap space to trade if needed. We can absorb instead of sending back Monroe's contract.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#308 » by King4Day » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:04 pm

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Only team that makes sense is the Clips. Gortat and a first for Jordan? Then they can try moving Gortat too or retain him to continue being competitive.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#309 » by Qwigglez » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:05 pm

I don't see anything on the availability of DLo besides that VOTS tweet. I doubt he's available but if he is we better be all over that. He's exactly the kind of player to put alongside Book and JJ and the rest of the guys.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#310 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:06 pm

We need Philly to get this guy.....so they pass Miami and Milwaukee.....and definitely don't want Miami to get him. Boston would have no relevance for us nor would Denver...

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#311 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:09 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I don't see anything on the availability of DLo besides that VOTS tweet. I doubt he's available but if he is we better be all over that. He's exactly the kind of player to put alongside Book and JJ and the rest of the guys.


I wanted him last year, and thought he'd be nice next to Book in the backcourt, but then the Nets took on a $64 million contract to get him. So there is next to no chance they'd trade him for less than a star or a high first this year.

They have been really working it trying to get young players and picks and have done a good job getting them for taking on Mozgov, Carroll, etc...so they are rebuilding in an unconventional way, but not doing a bad job.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#312 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:15 pm

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Q: Is Devin Booker the franchise’s point guard of the future?

A: No. General Manager Ryan McDonough recently told azcentral sports that the team’s top priority this offseason is to find a long-term solution at point guard. The Suns see Booker as a shooting guard who can swing over to point guard when needed. But there are no current plans to turn him into James Harden, at least not when he’s 21 years old. It would be a shock if Phoenix doesn’t draft a point guard with its lottery pick or pursue a point guard in free agency.

Q: How active will the Suns be in free agency this summer?

A: Don’t expect Phoenix to swing for the fences and pursue, say, a Paul George. But the Suns will be one of just six teams with at least $20 million in available cap space, and McDonough has said he wants to be aggressive in free agency. Keep an eye on Houston center Clint Capela, who’s a restricted free agent. He fits what the Suns do on both ends of the floor and, at 23, fits the timeline as well. The Rockets would like to keep Capela, but they also need to re-sign point guard Chris Paul and there’s talk of Houston pursuing LeBron James. Could Phoenix throw enough money at Capela that Houston decides not to match the offer?


I expect Houston to match any Capela offer.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#313 » by Bogyo » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:37 pm

Capela is overrated. D'antoni system guy with Harden or CP throwing him passes. I would not overpay that dude.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#314 » by bwoolf2 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:37 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
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Q: Is Devin Booker the franchise’s point guard of the future?

A: No. General Manager Ryan McDonough recently told azcentral sports that the team’s top priority this offseason is to find a long-term solution at point guard. The Suns see Booker as a shooting guard who can swing over to point guard when needed. But there are no current plans to turn him into James Harden, at least not when he’s 21 years old. It would be a shock if Phoenix doesn’t draft a point guard with its lottery pick or pursue a point guard in free agency.

Q: How active will the Suns be in free agency this summer?

A: Don’t expect Phoenix to swing for the fences and pursue, say, a Paul George. But the Suns will be one of just six teams with at least $20 million in available cap space, and McDonough has said he wants to be aggressive in free agency. Keep an eye on Houston center Clint Capela, who’s a restricted free agent. He fits what the Suns do on both ends of the floor and, at 23, fits the timeline as well. The Rockets would like to keep Capela, but they also need to re-sign point guard Chris Paul and there’s talk of Houston pursuing LeBron James. Could Phoenix throw enough money at Capela that Houston decides not to match the offer?


I expect Houston to match any Capela offer.


I do as well and as interesting as Capela is I think Bender is our future at C and by the same age 23 will be a superior player at that age. He is our Future Center just needs to get stronger not really bulk up. Capela is skinny he is just strong same thing will happen for Bender over the next 2 years... imo
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Post#315 » by Saberestar » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:03 pm

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Post#316 » by Jdiddy701 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:07 pm

I think McD should go after Damien Lillard, id give up our pick plus other picks and young players for him. I think the suns will have a surprise trade either this week or offseason. I don’t see McD adding another young player to this team. I think it’s go time.


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Post#317 » by BobbieL » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:18 pm

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Toronto Second round pick

Possibly lesser of Memphis or Suns pick in the second

Or how about this



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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#318 » by thamadkant » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:23 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Didn't see that D'Lo was available. I would trade both Heat picks and the Bucks pick and possibly a protected 1st from us to get him. Not sure what it would take, but that is likely my best offer to get him.

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This is nuts.

Why would Nets make him available?

For a star player?
But they don't have the team to contend for a while. Russell is the type of player they need...young budding star.
Or do they want a top pick?... If so I would trade Suns pick for him barring its top 3.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#319 » by thamadkant » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:24 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:I think McD should go after Damien Lillard, id give up our pick plus other picks and young players for him. I think the suns will have a surprise trade either this week or offseason. I don’t see McD adding another young player to this team. I think it’s go time.


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Why would Blazers trade him?

They spent all their cap space to apease him and build around him and McCollum.


They are fine.. They just need a high impact SF.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#320 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:36 pm

bwoolf2 wrote:I do as well and as interesting as Capela is I think Bender is our future at C and by the same age 23 will be a superior player at that age. He is our Future Center just needs to get stronger not really bulk up. Capela is skinny he is just strong same thing will happen for Bender over the next 2 years... imo


Yeah, I still think Bender can provide many of the same things Draymond Green can in time, with the defense, length, shot blocking, passing, 3 pt shooting, etc.

Of course when Draymond was Bender's age he was a soph at Mich St with two more years to go there, so Bender will be on his second contract, provided he gets one, at the same point Green was a rookie. If Bender keeps developing he can be a very good player for a long long time.

Same goes for all of our young major minute rotation guys.
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