WCQF | (4) Oklahoma City Thunder vs Utah Jazz (5) | UTA 4-2

[bondom34]

And its a bit odd the guy who said this was a 60 win team is the one saying other people are wrong.

[hardenASG13]

Knstrz has always cheered for this team even it he wanted a rebuild at times. It isn't a must win. It would be nice to win sure. But they're up 1-0. I have a feeling they lose this one bit like unsaid earlier I don't think either team wins 3 straight in this series, its an even matchup. I dont think he's hurt considering Horne showed the play it happened and it was in the first half and he had like 20 or so points after it.

He most certainly has not. He has been rooting for them to miss the Playoffs for a long time. In the houston game thread (where you were happy the season was over), he claimed to have a vested interest in the team imploding. This was like a week and a half ago. Looks like a complete punk and is embarrassed. Fine it's not a must win, nitpick a choice of words like you guys always do. It's a big playoff game, and he shouldn't sit with a hip contusion. That's just ridiculous.

I also said now that they are in the playoffs there is no reason to hope for anything other than that they win every game. I’m not the least bit embarrassed of my opinions.

Doesn't change that you didn't want them to make it.....either way, they did, and look good. This is a really big game, it's going to be hard to win in Utah. Sore hip. Unless he can't walk he plays. You don't rest guys, superstars, in big playoff games, to get to get them healthy. You have to take it game by game and live in the moment. Let's risk homecourt to make sure our stars sore hip is 100% for game 3 on the road.....said no team ever.

[ThunderBolt]

Sure pal. He should sit out a playoff game, against a good team, with a sore hip, and several days of rest coming up. You are right. I'm surprised your watching the playoffs, must be hard for you.

Right... because no player has ever made their injury worse because they tried to play on it too soon. You don’t know the severity of his injury. It’s reasonable to discuss the benefits of getting him healthier if he’s still hurting. Considering you’re someone who has touted the superiority of this team all year long, you can’t expect to come on here and call game 2 a “must win” and not get called out.
Go ahead and enjoy living in the moment instead of thinking with any foresight whatsoever. Maybe if PJ Dozier plays tonight and hits a three you’ll be on here touting his superiority as a two way player. No one here buys you’re shtick.

Yeah I've touted the playoff superiority all season of this team. Paul George is a big part of the team. Do you not think this game is huge for them? Guys play hurt in the playoffs. There's no shtick, they have turned it up, the rotation shortened, and they look like a team with a punchers chance. All your foolish over reactions to meaningless losses, lineup stats, and regular season SRS stats mean absolutely nothing now. You guys all look like whiny idiots, especially those (you) who actively rooted for the team to miss the Playoffs, instead of getting to watch this play out. I get it, it must be embarrassing. Looks like slick is the latest guy you are attempting to be like with the shtick comment.

Give us back our piiiiiiiicccckkk......if I don't like your opposing viewpoints I'll block you Truly pathetic.

All playoffs game are important but I don’t think this is a must win. If resting him makes him more of a contributor for game three, I think the idea is worth considering. Contrary to what you are saying, I’m open to multiple ideas. I think okc should rebuild but if George re-signs I’ll be happy. If Carmelo leaves, I’ll be ecstatic. You don’t need to make the attacks so personal. Act like an adult.

[hardenASG13]

Right... because no player has ever made their injury worse because they tried to play on it too soon. You don’t know the severity of his injury. It’s reasonable to discuss the benefits of getting him healthier if he’s still hurting. Considering you’re someone who has touted the superiority of this team all year long, you can’t expect to come on here and call game 2 a “must win” and not get called out.
Go ahead and enjoy living in the moment instead of thinking with any foresight whatsoever. Maybe if PJ Dozier plays tonight and hits a three you’ll be on here touting his superiority as a two way player. No one here buys you’re shtick.

Yeah I've touted the playoff superiority all season of this team. Paul George is a big part of the team. Do you not think this game is huge for them? Guys play hurt in the playoffs. There's no shtick, they have turned it up, the rotation shortened, and they look like a team with a punchers chance. All your foolish over reactions to meaningless losses, lineup stats, and regular season SRS stats mean absolutely nothing now. You guys all look like whiny idiots, especially those (you) who actively rooted for the team to miss the Playoffs, instead of getting to watch this play out. I get it, it must be embarrassing. Looks like slick is the latest guy you are attempting to be like with the shtick comment.

Give us back our piiiiiiiicccckkk......if I don't like your opposing viewpoints I'll block you Truly pathetic.

All playoffs game are important but I don’t think this is a must win. If resting him makes him more of a contributor for game three, I think the idea is worth considering. Contrary to what you are saying, I’m open to multiple ideas. I think okc should rebuild but if George re-signs I’ll be happy. If Carmelo leaves, I’ll be ecstatic. You don’t need to make the attacks so personal. Act like an adult.

Think I do in this case. You've been rooting against the team all year. Didn't want them to make the playoffs. Didn't think they'd make the playoffs..... you cant do THAT and expect not to be called out for it. you, bondom, and kizz fastfists should call up natty thunder, throw on some Utah jerseys, and root for the implosion.

[Andre Roberstan]

Knstrz has always cheered for this team even it he wanted a rebuild at times. It isn't a must win. It would be nice to win sure. But they're up 1-0. I have a feeling they lose this one bit like unsaid earlier I don't think either team wins 3 straight in this series, its an even matchup. I dont think he's hurt considering Horne showed the play it happened and it was in the first half and he had like 20 or so points after it.

He most certainly has not. He has been rooting for them to miss the Playoffs for a long time. In the houston game thread (where you were happy the season was over), he claimed to have a vested interest in the team imploding. This was like a week and a half ago. Looks like a complete punk and is embarrassed. Fine it's not a must win, nitpick a choice of words like you guys always do. It's a big playoff game, and he shouldn't sit with a hip contusion. That's just ridiculous.

OK, chill with the name-calling here.

If you want to take a victory lap (after one game), that's fine. But this level of taunting is pushing it.

[hardenASG13]

Knstrz has always cheered for this team even it he wanted a rebuild at times. It isn't a must win. It would be nice to win sure. But they're up 1-0. I have a feeling they lose this one bit like unsaid earlier I don't think either team wins 3 straight in this series, its an even matchup. I dont think he's hurt considering Horne showed the play it happened and it was in the first half and he had like 20 or so points after it.

He most certainly has not. He has been rooting for them to miss the Playoffs for a long time. In the houston game thread (where you were happy the season was over), he claimed to have a vested interest in the team imploding. This was like a week and a half ago. Looks like a complete punk and is embarrassed. Fine it's not a must win, nitpick a choice of words like you guys always do. It's a big playoff game, and he shouldn't sit with a hip contusion. That's just ridiculous.

OK, chill with the name-calling here.

If you want to take a victory lap (after one game), that's fine. But this level of taunting is pushing it.

It's not a victory lap, but to say my 'narrative' of the season is just 'schtick' (that they were a dangerous playoff team, with top end stars, and that the playoffs are a different game, making many of the bad losses/ reg season stats meaningless) is absurd. It's pretty much dead on. They've been attacking me all year for saying it. They are still a longshot to win the title, but they have a shot, are incredibly entertaining to watch, and have picked up their defensive intensity significantly (it is possible!) I'm loving every second of watching this series, that they long have either wanted to never happen in the first place, or confidently declared this team would be an easy first round out. They aren't.

[ThunderBolt]

Yeah I've touted the playoff superiority all season of this team. Paul George is a big part of the team. Do you not think this game is huge for them? Guys play hurt in the playoffs. There's no shtick, they have turned it up, the rotation shortened, and they look like a team with a punchers chance. All your foolish over reactions to meaningless losses, lineup stats, and regular season SRS stats mean absolutely nothing now. You guys all look like whiny idiots, especially those (you) who actively rooted for the team to miss the Playoffs, instead of getting to watch this play out. I get it, it must be embarrassing. Looks like slick is the latest guy you are attempting to be like with the shtick comment.

Give us back our piiiiiiiicccckkk......if I don't like your opposing viewpoints I'll block you Truly pathetic.

All playoffs game are important but I don’t think this is a must win. If resting him makes him more of a contributor for game three, I think the idea is worth considering. Contrary to what you are saying, I’m open to multiple ideas. I think okc should rebuild but if George re-signs I’ll be happy. If Carmelo leaves, I’ll be ecstatic. You don’t need to make the attacks so personal. Act like an adult.

Think I do in this case. You've been rooting against the team all year. Didn't want them to make the playoffs. Didn't think they'd make the playoffs..... you cant do THAT and expect not to be called out for it. you, bondom, and kizz fastfists should call up natty thunder, throw on some Utah jerseys, and root for the implosion.

What you don’t understand is that you aren’t calling me out if I admit it and stand by it.

[hardenASG13]

And its a bit odd the guy who said this was a 60 win team is the one saying other people are wrong.

What?

[hardenASG13]

All playoffs game are important but I don’t think this is a must win. If resting him makes him more of a contributor for game three, I think the idea is worth considering. Contrary to what you are saying, I’m open to multiple ideas. I think okc should rebuild but if George re-signs I’ll be happy. If Carmelo leaves, I’ll be ecstatic. You don’t need to make the attacks so personal. Act like an adult.

Think I do in this case. You've been rooting against the team all year. Didn't want them to make the playoffs. Didn't think they'd make the playoffs..... you cant do THAT and expect not to be called out for it. you, bondom, and kizz fastfists should call up natty thunder, throw on some Utah jerseys, and root for the implosion.

What you don’t understand is that you aren’t calling me out if I admit it and stand by it.

I'm calling out how crazy it was. This team has the potential for a deep playoff run, always has, and you wanted the 14th pick instead?

[ThunderBolt]

Think I do in this case. You've been rooting against the team all year. Didn't want them to make the playoffs. Didn't think they'd make the playoffs..... you cant do THAT and expect not to be called out for it. you, bondom, and kizz fastfists should call up natty thunder, throw on some Utah jerseys, and root for the implosion.

What you don’t understand is that you aren’t calling me out if I admit it and stand by it.

I'm calling out how crazy it was. This team has the potential for a deep playoff run, always has, and you wanted the 14th pick instead?

Even kizz admitted that the 14th pick, with Ferguson might be a good start for kawhi. Maybe not kawhi but another very good player. I actually was starting to buy in to this team before Dre got hurt.

[hardenASG13]

What you don’t understand is that you aren’t calling me out if I admit it and stand by it.

I'm calling out how crazy it was. This team has the potential for a deep playoff run, always has, and you wanted the 14th pick instead?

Even kizz admitted that the 14th pick, with Ferguson might be a good start for kawhi. Maybe not kawhi but another very good player. I actually was starting to buy in to this team before Dre got hurt.

Kizz also said this past off season that jae Crowder was better than Paul George, and compares Ferguson to Jimmy butler, despite 0 similarity between the 2. That package is trash for a top 8 player in the league. If they do well in the playoffs, PG could stay, and you don't need kawhi. Why as a thunder fan would you root against that, on the pipe dream they could trade Ferguson and the 14th pick for a top end star, or win the lottery with the worst chances in it?

[bondom34]

And its a bit odd the guy who said this was a 60 win team is the one saying other people are wrong.

What?

You saying preseason this was a 60 win team. Then when Dre went down acting like its no big deal

Really should not be throwing stones

[hardenASG13]

And its a bit odd the guy who said this was a 60 win team is the one saying other people are wrong.

What?

You saying preseason this was a 60 win team. Then when Dre went down acting like its no big deal

Really should not be throwing stones

Yea, I thought they'd give more effort/focus on a nightly basis. It quickly became evident that that wasn't the case, so I adjusted my expectations to what I was seeing......a team that seemed to be coasting most nights, playing a bench that would cost then some regular season games, but be less of an issue come playoff time due to short rotations/player development. Dre going down stunk this year, but it certainly wasn't the end of their season, as most on here proclaimed.

[bondom34]

What?

You saying preseason this was a 60 win team. Then when Dre went down acting like its no big deal

Really should not be throwing stones

Yea, I thought they'd give more effort/focus on a nightly basis. It quickly became evident that that wasn't the case, so I adjusted my expectations to what I was seeing......a team that seemed to be coasting most nights, playing a bench that would cost then some regular season games, but be less of an issue come playoff time due to short rotations/player development. Dre going down stunk this year, but it certainly wasn't the end of their season, as most on here proclaimed.

No it wasn't. They played like a .500 team afterward, and by 2 games held onto a play of berth. In a year where it was claimed by some they would win 60...

[ThunderBolt]

I'm calling out how crazy it was. This team has the potential for a deep playoff run, always has, and you wanted the 14th pick instead?

Even kizz admitted that the 14th pick, with Ferguson might be a good start for kawhi. Maybe not kawhi but another very good player. I actually was starting to buy in to this team before Dre got hurt.

Kizz also said this past off season that jae Crowder was better than Paul George, and compares Ferguson to Jimmy butler, despite 0 similarity between the 2. That package is trash for a top 8 player in the league. If they do well in the playoffs, PG could stay, and you don't need kawhi. Why as a thunder fan would you root against that, on the pipe dream they could trade Ferguson and the 14th pick for a top end star, or win the lottery with the worst chances in it?

The aforementioned package wouldn’t get you kawhi but would get a much better player than Carmelo. Did you think Oladipo and Sabonis would get George?

[hardenASG13]

You saying preseason this was a 60 win team. Then when Dre went down acting like its no big deal

Really should not be throwing stones

Yea, I thought they'd give more effort/focus on a nightly basis. It quickly became evident that that wasn't the case, so I adjusted my expectations to what I was seeing......a team that seemed to be coasting most nights, playing a bench that would cost then some regular season games, but be less of an issue come playoff time due to short rotations/player development. Dre going down stunk this year, but it certainly wasn't the end of their season, as most on here proclaimed.

No it wasn't. They played like a .500 team afterward, and by 2 games held onto a play of berth. In a year where it was claimed by some they would win 60...

How much does that regular season win total matter, today? Not at all. That's what I've been trying to tell all you, all season. They flashed an ability to play up to competition. They underachieved on preseason record expectations. None of it matters now, at all. To react so heavily to their inconsistency all season, despite their clear playoff potential, was just absurd and annoying imo.

[hardenASG13]

Even kizz admitted that the 14th pick, with Ferguson might be a good start for kawhi. Maybe not kawhi but another very good player. I actually was starting to buy in to this team before Dre got hurt.

Kizz also said this past off season that jae Crowder was better than Paul George, and compares Ferguson to Jimmy butler, despite 0 similarity between the 2. That package is trash for a top 8 player in the league. If they do well in the playoffs, PG could stay, and you don't need kawhi. Why as a thunder fan would you root against that, on the pipe dream they could trade Ferguson and the 14th pick for a top end star, or win the lottery with the worst chances in it?

The aforementioned package wouldn’t get you kawhi but would get a much better player than Carmelo. Did you think Oladipo and Sabonis would get George?

Don't really care to discuss this hypothetical, as I'm rooting for playoff success and PG coming back. But oladipo (former #2 pick) and sabonis are NBA starters. Ferguson at the moment is a streak shooter who really isn't ready to step onto the floor (despite him hitting the corner 3 with confidence, he's gonna get abused defensively) and a #14 pick, another unproven 19 year old, isn't really close to the same thing package wise.

[bondom34]

Yea, I thought they'd give more effort/focus on a nightly basis. It quickly became evident that that wasn't the case, so I adjusted my expectations to what I was seeing......a team that seemed to be coasting most nights, playing a bench that would cost then some regular season games, but be less of an issue come playoff time due to short rotations/player development. Dre going down stunk this year, but it certainly wasn't the end of their season, as most on here proclaimed.

No it wasn't. They played like a .500 team afterward, and by 2 games held onto a play of berth. In a year where it was claimed by some they would win 60...

How much does that regular season win total matter, today? Not at all. That's what I've been trying to tell all you, all season. They flashed an ability to play up to competition. They underachieved on preseason record expectations. None of it matters now, at all. To react so heavily to their inconsistency all season, despite their clear playoff potential, was just absurd and annoying imo.

So after 1 game we know they just didn't care. And with no proof. They also flashed the ability to get smashed by good teams. Hence the losing record to above .500 ones.
But sell what you want.

[ThunderBolt]

Kizz also said this past off season that jae Crowder was better than Paul George, and compares Ferguson to Jimmy butler, despite 0 similarity between the 2. That package is trash for a top 8 player in the league. If they do well in the playoffs, PG could stay, and you don't need kawhi. Why as a thunder fan would you root against that, on the pipe dream they could trade Ferguson and the 14th pick for a top end star, or win the lottery with the worst chances in it?

The aforementioned package wouldn’t get you kawhi but would get a much better player than Carmelo. Did you think Oladipo and Sabonis would get George?

Don't really care to discuss this hypothetical, as I'm rooting for playoff success and PG coming back. But oladipo (former #2 pick) and sabonis are NBA starters. Ferguson at the moment is a streak shooter who really isn't ready to step onto the floor (despite him hitting the corner 3 with confidence, he's gonna get abused defensively) and a #14 pick, another unproven 19 year old, isn't really close to the same thing package wise.

Since when? This whole discussion is based on the hypothetical.

[Pillendreher]

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