2022 NBA Draft Thread

[jake_swivel]

No clue what to think about this. Don't think 12 is available to move down.

I mean, seems like he’s suggesting a package to move up, or trade to future drafts (which is kicking the problem down the road), or packaging them for a non-draft player (which would signal that they want to compete now, which they likely aren’t).

[BlazersBroncos]

I really like the fit of Johnny Davis at 12. He has everything outside an elite shot, and his 31% this season may be an anomoly (38% as a Freshman, 79% FT on high volume indicates likelyhood he is a decent 3PT shooter at least w/ time). I really like the way his play fits in OKC, a super competitor who gives 100% on both sides of the floor. NBA ready but room to grow. He may be the best wind defender in this draft, I think only Dyson has an argument there.

I feel he was miscast as the primary scorer / creator in Wisconsin and that he could be an elite role player if given the chance to simply concentrate on defense, hitting open shots and taking what the defense gives him. Something like a super Josh Hart.

Right now I like this draft for OKC:

#2 - Chet Holmgren FC
#12 - Johnny Davis G
*** Trade #30 + #34 for #24 ***
#24 - EJ Liddell FC

[retrobro90]

I really like the fit of Johnny Davis at 12. He has everything outside an elite shot, and his 31% this season may be an anomoly (38% as a Freshman, 79% FT on high volume indicates likelyhood he is a decent 3PT shooter at least w/ time). I really like the way his play fits in OKC, a super competitor who gives 100% on both sides of the floor. NBA ready but room to grow. He may be the best wind defender in this draft, I think only Dyson has an argument there.

I feel he was miscast as the primary scorer / creator in Wisconsin and that he could be an elite role player if given the chance to simply concentrate on defense, hitting open shots and taking what the defense gives him. Something like a super Josh Hart.

Right now I like this draft for OKC:

#2 - Chet Holmgren FC
#12 - Johnny Davis G
*** Trade #30 + #34 for #24 ***
#24 - EJ Liddell FC

Wish I could give you infinity +1's for this post as it reflects my ideal draft.

Liddell is a beast. I understand the age gap between he and Sochan but Liddell is literally sitting right there as a guy who can defend his ass off and not be a complete liability on offense. Would bet he's a better play finisher overall given his freakish vertical.

Johnny is my favorite player in this whole class full stop. Said it before but I just can't shake that he's gonna be special. I see what you're saying about "elite role player" when he's next to our guys but I don't think star is out of the question for him. He can really create and score in a lot of different ways. I see Josh Hart on defense but with legitimate 3 level self creation. I'm crazy about his game.

Chet is self explanatory at this point. We need guys who can be efficient and he can do that all over the floor while being a special defender.

[retrobro90]

Watching an extended interview w Sochan and I can see how teams would be enamored with his personality/background/accent/intangibles. Gonna reiterate that I DO think he's an excellent defender albeit not one that I put in the Barnes/Draymond level of physicality or IQ. I'm not John Kerry-ing my position here. I really don't want another non-shooter on this roster especially next to Giddey/Shai (unless it's literally Giannis).

[Dadouv47]

Watching an extended interview w Sochan and I can see how teams would be enamored with his personality/background/accent/intangibles. Gonna reiterate that I DO think he's an excellent defender albeit not one that I put in the Barnes/Draymond level of physicality or IQ. I'm not John Kerry-ing my position here. I really don't want another non-shooter on this roster especially next to Giddey/Shai (unless it's literally Giannis).

I get all the arguments against him and I'm clearly in the minority here but I would be really happy if we get both Chet and Sochan. I would be ok if we move up to 8 to get him. His defensive versatilty to me is huge and I don't the buy the Roberson comp. I think it's fair to be scared to draft another Roberson but every player is different and Sochan shot mechanic isn't bad at all. He will never be a great 3 pt shooter but his lack of shooting won't be such a huge liability next to Chet.

AJ Griffin could be a way better player if he's fully healthy but his bad defense concerns me too...it's not like SGA and Giddey are great defenders (even if SGA improved a lot) and I'm not sure the chances of AJG improving on the defensive end are higher than Sochan developing an average shot.

Chet/Sochan/Giddey/SGA/Dort is pretty good. Get a better offensive player than Dort in the next draft and this could be pretty special.

[kdthunderup]

https://youtu.be/9oWfSmd16sg

Best video I’ve seen on Chet’s defense. Only concerns are around navigating screens and defending shooters around the perimeter - these can be improved if he works on his body more.

Dude has potentially DPOY qualities whilst being a strong offensive player who can shoot.

[Devilanche]

Let’s get to draft night so I can YouTube out whoever we get.

Who need spacing when we got length and defence !

[Dadouv47]

Most Thunder fans want Chet & AJG or Johnny Davis, so we will likely end up with Sharpe and Duren.

[retrobro90]

Watching an extended interview w Sochan and I can see how teams would be enamored with his personality/background/accent/intangibles. Gonna reiterate that I DO think he's an excellent defender albeit not one that I put in the Barnes/Draymond level of physicality or IQ. I'm not John Kerry-ing my position here. I really don't want another non-shooter on this roster especially next to Giddey/Shai (unless it's literally Giannis).

I get all the arguments against him and I'm clearly in the minority here but I would be really happy if we get both Chet and Sochan. I would be ok if we move up to 8 to get him. His defensive versatilty to me is huge and I don't the buy the Roberson comp. I think it's fair to be scared to draft another Roberson but every player is different and Sochan shot mechanic isn't bad at all. He will never be a great 3 pt shooter but his lack of shooting won't be such a huge liability next to Chet.

AJ Griffin could be a way better player if he's fully healthy but his bad defense concerns me too...it's not like SGA and Giddey are great defenders (even if SGA improved a lot) and I'm not sure the chances of AJG improving on the defensive end are higher than Sochan developing an average shot.

Chet/Sochan/Giddey/SGA/Dort is pretty good. Get a better offensive player than Dort in the next draft and this could be pretty special.

I legitimately loved/love Roberson and think he is sorely mischaracterized by many fans. One of my favorite players in OKC history. Do I want to draft him at 12 or trade up to get him at 8? Not even a little bit.

I disagree with this statement about AJG/Sochan too. I'm feeling very confident Sochan will never be a + shooter at the next level but Griffen's defense seems pretty dependent on if he's able to get back to being healthy. And we saw evidence of that as the season progressed. I'd give it a coin flips chance that his defense improves whereas I'd probably say Sochan will likely be given every open 3 he takes for the duration of his career.

[Old Man Game]

https://youtu.be/9oWfSmd16sg

Best video I’ve seen on Chet’s defense. Only concerns are around navigating screens and defending shooters around the perimeter - these can be improved if he works on his body more.

Dude has potentially DPOY qualities whilst being a strong offensive player who can shoot.

Great video. I know probably neither player would do this but I'd love for them to bring Chet in for a private workout and see how he'd react to Tre Mann giving him some of his best moves in space. He'd either make a believer out of them in regards to his ability to move his feet or he'd fall over so hard he'd end his career before it began.

[ThunderBolt]

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Sort of what we expected.

[Dadouv47]

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Sort of what we expected.

to me it means that Orlando gonna pick him but he's gonna get a workout with the second pick just in case...

I know he's skinny but give me Chet!!

[Balkman32]

If the Thunder draft Chet.

What do we need out of the other 2 guys who could potential be on the floor in closing units with Chet the rim protector, Shai the driver and Giddey the distributer?

SHOOTERS - I think you just add wing help. Hope one hits at 12, 30 & 34.

[BlazersBroncos]

I really like the fit of Johnny Davis at 12. He has everything outside an elite shot, and his 31% this season may be an anomoly (38% as a Freshman, 79% FT on high volume indicates likelyhood he is a decent 3PT shooter at least w/ time). I really like the way his play fits in OKC, a super competitor who gives 100% on both sides of the floor. NBA ready but room to grow. He may be the best wind defender in this draft, I think only Dyson has an argument there.

I feel he was miscast as the primary scorer / creator in Wisconsin and that he could be an elite role player if given the chance to simply concentrate on defense, hitting open shots and taking what the defense gives him. Something like a super Josh Hart.

Right now I like this draft for OKC:

#2 - Chet Holmgren FC
#12 - Johnny Davis G
*** Trade #30 + #34 for #24 ***
#24 - EJ Liddell FC

Wish I could give you infinity +1's for this post as it reflects my ideal draft.

Liddell is a beast. I understand the age gap between he and Sochan but Liddell is literally sitting right there as a guy who can defend his ass off and not be a complete liability on offense. Would bet he's a better play finisher overall given his freakish vertical.

Johnny is my favorite player in this whole class full stop. Said it before but I just can't shake that he's gonna be special. I see what you're saying about "elite role player" when he's next to our guys but I don't think star is out of the question for him. He can really create and score in a lot of different ways. I see Josh Hart on defense but with legitimate 3 level self creation. I'm crazy about his game.

Chet is self explanatory at this point. We need guys who can be efficient and he can do that all over the floor while being a special defender.

Ya, I think this simple offseason would do the trick for OKC - no long term salary, clear some roster spots (Likely all the rookies dont start, but this is my fantasy) -

TRADE 1

Portland Trades
TPE (Covington Trade)
#59
2027 NO SRP

Oklahoma City Trades
Darius Bazley F
Theo Maledon G

TRADE 2

Milwaukee Trades
#24

Oklahoma City Trades
#30
#34

NBA DRAFT
#2 – Chet Holmgren FC
#12 – Johnny Davis G
#24 – EJ Liddell FC
#59 – Euro Stash

G – Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (32) / Tre Mann (16)
G – Johnny Davis (24) / Lou Dort (20) / Tre Mann (4) / Aaron Wiggins
F – Josh Giddey (30) / Kenrich Williams (10) / Lou Dort (8) / Vit Krejci
F – EJ Liddell (24) / Kenrich Williams (10) / Aleksej Pokusevski (12) / Isaiah Roby
C – Chet Holmgren (30) / Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (18) / Mike Muscala

Ideally Poku develops and demands more minutes, but I really like that mix. Lots of shooting and versatile defenders - Mann as the microwave off the bench, basically only Giddey and Mann with maybe EJ as not clear + defenders too (Well, and Poku but he is gettins spot minutes at 12mpg in this rotation)

[ThunderBolt]

If the Thunder draft Chet.

What do we need out of the other 2 guys who could potential be on the floor in closing units with Chet the rim protector, Shai the driver and Giddey the distributer?

SHOOTERS - I think you just add wing help. Hope one hits at 12, 30 & 34.

If the magic draft Chet, I’m completely fine to take smith for this reason. I really think it’s not being talked about enough that the magic could take Chet. Maybe not likely but not impossible.

[Balkman32]

If the Thunder draft Chet.

What do we need out of the other 2 guys who could potential be on the floor in closing units with Chet the rim protector, Shai the driver and Giddey the distributer?

SHOOTERS - I think you just add wing help. Hope one hits at 12, 30 & 34.

If the magic draft Chet, I’m completely fine to take smith for this reason. I really think it’s not being talked about enough that the magic could take Chet. Maybe not likely but not impossible.

I kind of think the Magic will take Chet.

Paolo could be the Thunders guy at 2. He is an exceptional passer and can score 20 a night. But, if he is going to be your small ball 5 its gonna be a problem because he can't protect the rim. I heard some think he can play the 3.

[kdthunderup]

https://youtu.be/9oWfSmd16sg

Best video I’ve seen on Chet’s defense. Only concerns are around navigating screens and defending shooters around the perimeter - these can be improved if he works on his body more.

Dude has potentially DPOY qualities whilst being a strong offensive player who can shoot.

Great video. I know probably neither player would do this but I'd love for them to bring Chet in for a private workout and see how he'd react to Tre Mann giving him some of his best moves in space. He'd either make a believer out of them in regards to his ability to move his feet or he'd fall over so hard he'd end his career before it began.

He is so long that he still recovers well and contests when players get past him due to his length. His main challenge will come from snipers who can pull-up and also drive. He just needs to improve his core strength and hips just a little bit to the point he isn't tripping over his own feet. His length makes up for a lot.

[kdthunderup]

I really like the fit of Johnny Davis at 12. He has everything outside an elite shot, and his 31% this season may be an anomoly (38% as a Freshman, 79% FT on high volume indicates likelyhood he is a decent 3PT shooter at least w/ time). I really like the way his play fits in OKC, a super competitor who gives 100% on both sides of the floor. NBA ready but room to grow. He may be the best wind defender in this draft, I think only Dyson has an argument there.

I feel he was miscast as the primary scorer / creator in Wisconsin and that he could be an elite role player if given the chance to simply concentrate on defense, hitting open shots and taking what the defense gives him. Something like a super Josh Hart.

Right now I like this draft for OKC:

#2 - Chet Holmgren FC
#12 - Johnny Davis G
*** Trade #30 + #34 for #24 ***
#24 - EJ Liddell FC

Wish I could give you infinity +1's for this post as it reflects my ideal draft.

Liddell is a beast. I understand the age gap between he and Sochan but Liddell is literally sitting right there as a guy who can defend his ass off and not be a complete liability on offense. Would bet he's a better play finisher overall given his freakish vertical.

Johnny is my favorite player in this whole class full stop. Said it before but I just can't shake that he's gonna be special. I see what you're saying about "elite role player" when he's next to our guys but I don't think star is out of the question for him. He can really create and score in a lot of different ways. I see Josh Hart on defense but with legitimate 3 level self creation. I'm crazy about his game.

Chet is self explanatory at this point. We need guys who can be efficient and he can do that all over the floor while being a special defender.

Ya, I think this simple offseason would do the trick for OKC - no long term salary, clear some roster spots (Likely all the rookies dont start, but this is my fantasy) -

TRADE 1

Portland Trades
TPE (Covington Trade)
#59
2027 NO SRP

Oklahoma City Trades
Darius Bazley F
Theo Maledon G

TRADE 2

Milwaukee Trades
#24

Oklahoma City Trades
#30
#34

NBA DRAFT
#2 – Chet Holmgren FC
#12 – Johnny Davis G
#24 – EJ Liddell FC
#59 – Euro Stash

G – Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (32) / Tre Mann (16)
G – Johnny Davis (24) / Lou Dort (20) / Tre Mann (4) / Aaron Wiggins
F – Josh Giddey (30) / Kenrich Williams (10) / Lou Dort (8) / Vit Krejci
F – EJ Liddell (24) / Kenrich Williams (10) / Aleksej Pokusevski (12) / Isaiah Roby
C – Chet Holmgren (30) / Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (18) / Mike Muscala

Ideally Poku develops and demands more minutes, but I really like that mix. Lots of shooting and versatile defenders - Mann as the microwave off the bench, basically only Giddey and Mann with maybe EJ as not clear + defenders too (Well, and Poku but he is gettins spot minutes at 12mpg in this rotation)

Giddey is underrated defensively. If you look at the advanced stats it suggests he was one of the better rookies in this area. He struggles to stay in front of quick players but he understands team defense at a high level.

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