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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#301 » by Skin » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:19 pm

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Post#302 » by Orlando Dawg » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:42 pm

Now we have to do what Anthony Black said and get rid of Fultz
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#303 » by J the Drafter » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:49 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:But you still have 2 perimiter players on the floor whom defenders can leave with no fear. It’s tough to score consistently in todays game when the floor is shruken like that. Back in the day you could do it cause there was no zone allowed.


I disagree they can be left alone without fear. They can still cut to the basket or drive, and Fultz can hit the midrange. And multiple playmakers will add more options to the offense than relying on one person operating with the ball.
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#304 » by tiderulz » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:55 pm

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guessing this was the reason Jett didnt go to the combine and get measured
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Post#305 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:00 am

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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#306 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:01 am

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guessing this was the reason Jett didnt go to the combine and get measured
I can't read it. What does it say he's smaller?

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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#307 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:03 am

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guessing this was the reason Jett didnt go to the combine and get measured
I can't read it. What does it say he's smaller?

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Don’t go by this picture, Black had on platform shoes. If you watched his interview with the lady, you’d notice the shoes. They looked just about even in the press conference. I think Jett was a little taller. I’ll go and check.

Edit: They look about the same height as Coach Mose. Don’t know what shoes Black has on.
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#308 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:21 am

Last season, our tallest guard without shoes was Fultz and Suggs at 6'3". I think it was a priority for the FO to add size.

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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#309 » by tiderulz » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:33 am

basketballRob wrote:Last season, our tallest guard without shoes was Fultz and Suggs at 6'3". I think it was a priority for the FO to add size.

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luckily, they dont play barefoot
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#311 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:56 am

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basketballRob wrote:Last season, our tallest guard without shoes was Fultz and Suggs at 6'3". I think it was a priority for the FO to add size.

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luckily, they dont play barefoot
Right, with shoes, they were 6'4. Now we have two 6'7" players.

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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#312 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:58 am

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This is the most cherry picked stat I have seen so far.
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#313 » by J_Magic » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:58 am

Can someone tell me are we looking at the next Penny or Michael Carter Williams?
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#314 » by thelead » Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:04 am

J_Magic wrote:Can someone tell me are we looking at the next Penny or Michael Carter Williams?

No one really knows but I thought he was BPA at 6
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#315 » by eyriq » Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:39 am

J_Magic wrote:Can someone tell me are we looking at the next Penny or Michael Carter Williams?


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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#316 » by Petre1978 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:45 am

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J_Magic wrote:Can someone tell me are we looking at the next Penny or Michael Carter Williams?


Next Magic Johnson. Nickname, BlackMagic. Its happening RealGMz

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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#317 » by eyriq » Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:57 am

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J_Magic wrote:Can someone tell me are we looking at the next Penny or Michael Carter Williams?


Next Magic Johnson. Nickname, BlackMagic. Its happening RealGMz

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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#318 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:07 am

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MAGICian619 wrote:Some of these takes are pretty wild.

The fit isn’t good? We basically have 2 players entrenched in our starting lineup for the next 10 years. They are both forwards. Taking another forward with the 6 pick would have been a waste and an actual fit issue.

I think the bigger issue with some of the analysis by some is the obsession with Fultz and Anthony. They are fine but are just guys. Black is a whole different level of a prospect. We had one last swing on a top tier draft prospect and IMO it had to be at guard.

Black/Franz/Paolo is going to be such beautiful basketball to watch. All similar high IQ play makers. Fit is only a question mark with Black if you are looking at the lesser important part of our team. He is an A+ fit with Franz and Paolo which should really be all that matters.


How ??? Defenses don’t even have to guard the kid. They are going to collapse in the paint and let him shoot, and when he does shoot that sh*t is going to get sent 5 rows up in the stands. Besides having a slow release he has zero elevation on his shot, he doesn’t even jump really on it.


So are they going to not cover him or send it 5 rows into the stands? The guy there now is ignored defensively/dared to shoot.
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#319 » by Petre1978 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:56 am

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Going well! Staying over in Furth with my mother-in-law. Did Rock im Park a few weekends ago, went to a beer garden in the Nuremberg castle moat one weekend, and working remote otherwise. Enjoying the nice walks, family, and good food. You have a beautiful country my friend.

Danke!!
Bayern is a very nice region.
You have to go to Munich, very nice city.

I plan to go to Orlando next year.
Can you name me some nice hotels?
Also some places to go out?

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A cousin of my father lived in Bradenton at the time and we stayed at her house , so we had no hotel.

Coming back to the draft.
I like both picks.
Really sad how the most here are trashing Black.

I say he will improve his shooting and finally the Magic have a guard who can play the PNR.

The pick and roll passing was one of the biggest things I expected to see when I first watched Anthony Black.
And he was very impressive.
His ability to make sound reads and plays in the pick and roll, really stood out to me.




Here, Black slots a precise pocket pass, the second Makhi Mitchell gets a sliver of space. Black really understands space in the PNR and is great at attacking different coverages.

Alabama attempted to defend the pick and roll by switching, and relying on Brandon Miller’s big frame as weakside help as rim deterrence, but Black knew getting the ball to Mitchell would provide Arkansas the biggest advantage.



In this play, Louisville is attempting to defend the pick and roll by playing the big at the level, so as soon as Makhel Mitchell starts to roll, Black flips a pocket pass between the two defenders and Makhel gets an easy lane to the basket.
Black understood that with Louisville’s big playing at the level meant that if Mitchell rolled hard, he would get a very easy lane to the basket.
So as soon as Makhel got a bit of space, he whips the pass in between the two defenders and Makhel gets fouled at the rim.

Black’s overall feel for the game and his process in the pick and roll is really impressive.
He really has an eye for making the right play.
His vision is really impressive and has all the tools to be a lead guard in the NBA.
Black’s ability to manuever in the pick and roll and make the right play in these situations is some of the best in the draft.
With his superior size and vision, pick and roll navigation is going to be a big strength for Black from the get go.

Black’s biggest strength on the offensive end is probably his passing feel.
His combination of size, feel for the game, and passing vision makes for a very good passing traits and playmaking ability.



His size and vision allows him to manipulate angles and see over the top of the defense.
He also rarely gets tunnel vision when attacking the basket and always keeps his head up, looking to make the right play.
Even when Black is driving to the basket, he has the court awareness and passing acumen to make the right play.
He is also very good at manipulating angles to find open guys.
He regularly fits the ball into tight angles, using pocket passes, high rainbows, and one handed flips to get the ball in a place where only his teammate can get it.
He is an NBA level processor and rarely makes bone headed plays.
Even if he doesn’t develop the scoring aspect to become a top flight point guard, Black, at the very worst, will be a high level connector at the NBA level.
His vision, IQ, and passing ability are fantastic tools that will translate at the NBA level.

As we all know he needs to improve his shooting.
Both his off the dribble and catch & shoot numbers aren’t fantastic; he only shot 31% on decent volume for both.
The jumpshot is where Black will need to improve the most and if he is able to develop it his game as a whole will change for the better. 

The defense is where Anthony Black really shows out as a prospect.
As a 6’7 guard, who is both laterally quick and very engaged, Black projects to be an elite off ball defender, with the length to poke out steals and a very good on ball defender.
His size, willingness, and length made him a great defender as a freshmen at Arkansas.
Black has the potential to make multiple All-Defensive teams in the NBA and be the head of the snake for a very good NBA defense.

Anthony Black’s perimeter defense for his size is very intruiging.
His combination of length, quickness, and IQ is reminiscent of Dyson Daniels from last years draft.
However Black’s biggest strength as a perimeter defender is his hands.
He has an incredible eye for the ball and he is incredibly good at getting deflections on passes and blocks on contests.

Black’s biggest strength as a perimeter defender is his tremendous ability to get deflections and blocks on the perimeter.
His size and hand eye coordination is really special as a perimeter defender and he is really good at getting his hand on the ball.

Anthony Black’s calling card on defense is his off ball defense.
With his terrific length, high IQ, and ridiculous hands, Black understands when to make rotations and has the length to be a defensive game wrecker away from the ball.
He has the length to be a weakside shot blocker, the anticipation to jump into passing lanes, and the size to recover even if he overcommits.

As a whole, Black’s off ball defense is super impressive and he will make an impact in this aspect the minute he steps onto an NBA court.
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Re: The Anthony Black Thread 

Post#320 » by JBSouthpaw » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:17 pm

I think Black will have a better shooting rookie year than Suggs(low bar, I know)

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