Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Payne Signed

[crkone]

Griffin’s keeping it as positive as he can RE Giannis.

I like the notion of embracing expectations in particular.

Other notable bits from the Bucks Foundation Golf Outing interviews:

- Khris and the rest of the roster expected “to be ready to go” at the start of training camp.

- When asked about the opportunities MarJon and other young guys might expect, Griffin emphasized they need to earn it, and didn't respond directly to the follow up about whether he’ll go with something like a Nick Nurse style 9 man rotation. Far from definitive but not singing praises either is my read.

- Stotts says their job is to maximize everyone’s talents offensively and make sure everything fits. Terry also said he thinks the plan will evolve rather than there being a set plan today with so much time before the first game.

"Plan will evolve" = let's see if Giannis can hit a midrange shot again first

I do like that answer all joking aside.

[Dick Tate]

Now whenever I see clips of guys working out, i'm going to applaud them for spending time away from their families.

[Badgerlander]

Would you trade Pat and Grayson for D'Angelo Russell? Could not happen until Dec 15th. Russell has an $18 million PO next year.

Nah

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[theFireBlanket]

Would you trade Pat and Grayson for D'Angelo Russell? Could not happen until Dec 15th. Russell has an $18 million PO next year.

Nah

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Why are we always eager to trade Pat?

*Giannis workout mate back in the day.
*Part of the Finals winning rotation.
*In last season's greatest quartet for point differential.

Jimmy pushed off on Pat, with what would've probably been game sealing defense on his last seconds bucket in Game 5. Screw that particular L2M report.

[crowhead76]

Would you trade Pat and Grayson for D'Angelo Russell? Could not happen until Dec 15th. Russell has an $18 million PO next year.

Nah

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Why are we always eager to trade Pat?

*Giannis workout mate back in the day.
*Part of the Finals winning rotation.
*In last season's greatest quartet for point differential.

Jimmy pushed off on Pat, with what would've probably been game sealing defense on his last seconds bucket in Game 5. Screw that particular L2M report.

Not eager to trade Pat, however his or Bobby's contracts would be needed to make most trades for what might be considered an upgrade to the roster.

[crowhead76]

Would you trade Pat and Grayson for D'Angelo Russell? Could not happen until Dec 15th. Russell has an $18 million PO next year.

Nah

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Quickley would certainly be ideal, however I do not see how they make a trade for Quickley work.

[Rstuedes24]

Khris in peak shape and Giannis going to spend some time with Hakeem will be more valuable than any roster moves we made/make

[rilamann]

Khris in peak shape and Giannis going to spend some time with Hakeem will be more valuable than any roster moves we made/make

I had not heard anything about this and I thought you were being hypothetical if Giannis worked out with Hakeem. So I googled it just in case and holy ****, Giannis actually is going to workout with Hakeem.

I've been begging for the Bucks to bring in Hakeem to work with Giannis for years.

If you asked me if I would like the Bucks chances of getting back to the Finals more if we traded for Dame, or if Giannis mastered 5 or 6 of Hakeem's post moves. I would choose Giannis mastering 5 or 6 of Hakeem's post.

[Shaffty]

Khris in peak shape and Giannis going to spend some time with Hakeem will be more valuable than any roster moves we made/make

I had not heard anything about this and I thought you were being hypothetical if Giannis worked out with Hakeem. So I googled it just in case and holy ****, Giannis actually is going to workout with Hakeem.

I've been begging for the Bucks to bring in Hakeem to work with Giannis for years.

If you asked me if I would like the Bucks chances of getting back to the Finals more if we traded for Dame, or if Giannis mastered 5 or 6 of Hakeem's post moves. I would choose Giannis mastering 5 or 6 of Hakeem's post.

5 OR 6 is being greedy, just one hook shot and its over lol

[chonestown]

The Nigerian Nightmare, hell yeah.

[Milbucks96]

Idk if any player training with Hakeem has ever worked out like people hope. Giannis can already get plenty shots out of the post, he just has no touch in his jump shots or push shots (his finger roll type touch is otherworldly though) to capitalize on them.

With all that being said I’m glad he’s not giving up and still working on that aspect of his game. I’m sure he always has but hopefully we’ll see more of it in game instead of the pull ups he loves.

[Ron Swanson]

Lol, "Trained with Hakeem in the offseason" is on every media day bingo card alongside "put on 15 pounds of muscle" for a reason. It's a meme at this point. I'll believe you can teach post-touch when I see it.

[DingleJerry]

These days 'post' just isn't like it was 30 years ago either. You can't just dump it in and get like 5 seconds to work one on one. It rarely gets talked about in these modern vs older era discussions but the change of the D rules is drastic too. It's not just the chucking 3s alone that created the changes.

He'd be much better spent finally learning how to be as good as possible as the screener/crasher on ball screens. He's still awkward on it and it doesn't look smooth. But when he did more of this and just being the finisher around the hoop is when they won the title. Him dribbling into 3 guys has led to a loss every year. It also has risk of charge and more injury risk

[paulpressey25]

Lol, "Trained with Hakeem in the offseason" is on every media day bingo card alongside "put on 15 pounds of muscle" for a reason. It's a meme at this point. I'll believe you can teach post-touch when I see it.

He may be training with Kevin Garnett.

[jute2003]

Foot work around the basket would be useful and is something Hakeem could help with. Defensive positioning and timing maybe....post moves are prolly not worth the time.

[Daver]

Khris in peak shape and Giannis going to spend some time with Hakeem will be more valuable than any roster moves we made/make

I had not heard anything about this and I thought you were being hypothetical if Giannis worked out with Hakeem. So I googled it just in case and holy ****, Giannis actually is going to workout with Hakeem.

I've been begging for the Bucks to bring in Hakeem to work with Giannis for years.

If you asked me if I would like the Bucks chances of getting back to the Finals more if we traded for Dame, or if Giannis mastered 5 or 6 of Hakeem's post moves. I would choose Giannis mastering 5 or 6 of Hakeem's post.

5 OR 6 is being greedy, just one hook shot and its over lol

Absolutely agree just 1 or 2 moves and it is done you cant stop him right now down low add in a hook or someover move and its goodnight irene

[rilamann]

Lol, "Trained with Hakeem in the offseason" is on every media day bingo card alongside "put on 15 pounds of muscle" for a reason. It's a meme at this point. I'll believe you can teach post-touch when I see it.

He may be training with Kevin Garnett.

If Giannis was working out with KG I would probably feel similar to Ron here. It would be a pretty big meh from me.

But footwork and post moves aren't all that hard to learn, you just need to have the size and ability to be able to utilize them and be effective with them. Hakeem was and is still the master when it comes to foot work and post moves.

To say that Giannis has the size and ability to be extremely effective with the foot work/post moves of Hakeem would be an understatement.

I think there is a reason to be a little excited about this.

[Daver]

If giannis could ever become a 70% plus FT shooter it woyld probsbly be over to.Really how many games have the bucks lost cause of giannis being brutal from the line.Game 5 vs miami that game in philly.Guys getting 13 to 18 fts a night learn to make 75% of them thats 8 more points a game

[rilamann]

Foot work around the basket would be useful and is something Hakeem could help with. Defensive positioning and timing maybe....post moves are prolly not worth the time.

The footwork on defense would be useful too, I agree with you there.

But Giannis with a few of Hakeem's post moves would be massive for Giannis' game.

Even now Giannis kind of does some Hakeem-like pumps fakes in the post on rare occasions, and when he does it he scores almost effortlessly, it looks like he's playing against kids. I remember this past season Giannis did it few times here and there and every time I was like, Why the hell doesn't he do that more often. But imagine if Giannis had a couple go-to moves in the post.

[rilamann]

Idk if any player training with Hakeem has ever worked out like people hope. Giannis can already get plenty shots out of the post, he just has no touch in his jump shots or push shots (his finger roll type touch is otherworldly though) to capitalize on them.

With all that being said I’m glad he’s not giving up and still working on that aspect of his game. I’m sure he always has but hopefully we’ll see more of it in game instead of the pull ups he loves.

Hakeem has never worked out with a player like Giannis though.

And a player with size and talent of Giannis wouldn't really need a lot of touch in the post. A player like Giannis would be dropping the ball down into the basket or dunking it off of effective post moves.