Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - PatBev: AJJ has "bright future"

[LUKE23]

36 year old Pat Bev gives you the same or honestly better production than Bruce Brown.

Yeah, I'm not going to go this far.

[Bernman]

Sure, then trade Bobby. Point is, one of him or Brook needs to go. And all this “just play Andre and AJ Green” stuff sounds a hell of a lot like last offseason when we tried to get ourselves hyped about “Marjon Swolechamp” and some guys named Omari Moore and Jazian Gortman. You need a reliable, proven wing/guard beyond Dame and Khris that you know is a 16-game player.

Except these suggestions are going off their on court play, where they weren't far away from being sufficient starters already. Then you make a natural development projection.

Anyway, it's always a matter of cost-benefit analysis. So if the cost is another 1st rd pick when we're going to suck in those yrs (not that it's legal right now anyway), then no thanks.

You balked on lower investment options like Grimes. Ideally I want better options than Green, AJJ, & Bev project to be. And I don't think it's going to take a 1st rd investment attachment. But if so, have to bite the bullet in trying out our own guys, until the deadline, at minimum. The playoffs are after the deadline, maybe you've heard.

[Frank Nova]

It really sucks we don’t have just 1 more lucrative future 1st still. I would think Brook, 31’ 1st and any other future 1st we still had could be a competitive offer for Markkanen. That trade would be incredible to pull off and then immediately extend Lauri. Brook and the 31’ 1st just isn’t enough and that makes me real sad.

[Baddy Chuck]

It really sucks we don’t have just 1 more lucrative future 1st still. I would think Brook, 31’ 1st and any other future 1st we still had could be a competitive offer for Markkanen. That trade would be incredible to pull off and then immediately extend Lauri. Brook and the 31’ 1st just isn’t enough and that makes me real sad.

I don't think that would be even remotely close to what Utah would want or get for Markkanen.

[Ron Swanson]

Sure, then trade Bobby. Point is, one of him or Brook needs to go. And all this “just play Andre and AJ Green” stuff sounds a hell of a lot like last offseason when we tried to get ourselves hyped about “Marjon Swolechamp” and some guys named Omari Moore and Jazian Gortman. You need a reliable, proven wing/guard beyond Dame and Khris that you know is a 16-game player.

Except these suggestions are going off their on court play, where they weren't far away from being sufficient starters already. Then you make a natural development projection.

Anyway, it's always a matter of cost-benefit analysis. So if the cost is another 1st rd pick when we're going to suck in those yrs (not that it's legal right now anyway), then no thanks.

You balked on lower investment options like Grimes. Ideally I want better options than Green, AJJ, & Bev project to be. And I don't think it's going to take a 1st rd investment attachment. But if so, have to bite the bullet in trying out our own guys, until the deadline, at minimum. The playoffs are after the deadline, maybe you've heard.

Or maybe we shouldn’t just blindly assume that guy’s gonna be available at the trade deadline? That’s how you get stuck settling for paying 5 second round picks for 33-year Jae Crowder.

[ShootingtheJ]

Just do the Brook for Bruce Brown 3-team deal and send Brook to OKC. Get some future draft assets back for your trouble.

Brown can't do anything our own guys can do, and that doesn't fix our apron issues. Keep looking

Sure he can. He defends 1-3 and has proven he can be a Top-6 player on a championship roster. If OKC can kick in some minor draft assets (a future 1st or 2nds) then all the better. At this point you guys have to be realistic about Brook’s trade value. That’s a solid deal and still gives you flexibility to flip Bobby plus draft assets at the deadline for another starter level player.

It's absolutely brutal value to trade Brook for a player he was 2.4 more VORP than last year. Brown is coming off a terrible year. He didn't defend or make shots.

[Dick Tate]

Sometimes you have to develop your own 16 game postseason player. These absolutes being tossed out are ridiculous.

[ShootingtheJ]

36 year old Pat Bev gives you the same or honestly better production than Bruce Brown.

Yeah, I'm not going to go this far.

Bev was better than Brown last year. Brown was one of the NBAs least valuable players last year.

[RiotPunch]

If you can promise me we are getting the Nuggets version of Bruce Brown, then I am okay with him as a target of some kind. Pacers/Raptors version Bruce Brown doesn't do it for me, especially if he costs Lopez. Maybe injuries and being on unserious teams are to blame, IDK.

[ShootingtheJ]

It really sucks we don’t have just 1 more lucrative future 1st still. I would think Brook, 31’ 1st and any other future 1st we still had could be a competitive offer for Markkanen. That trade would be incredible to pull off and then immediately extend Lauri. Brook and the 31’ 1st just isn’t enough and that makes me real sad.

I don't think that would be even remotely close to what Utah would want or get for Markkanen.

Agree. If they accept an offer for Markkanen, it'll be the biggest offer ever.

[RiotPunch]

#1
MKE: Stewart, MKE '25 1st (5-30 protected)
NOP: Lopez
DET: McCollum, NOP '30 2nd, NOP '31 2nd

#2
MKE: Cam Johnson, Vince Williams Jr.
MEM: Portis
BKN: Connaughton, Konchar, Beauchamp, MKE '25 1st (no protections)

[htr]

#1
MKE: Stewart, MKE '25 1st (5-30 protected)
NOP: Lopez
DET: McCollum, NOP '30 2nd, NOP '31 2nd

#2
MKE: Cam Johnson, Vince Williams Jr.
MEM: Portis
BKN: Connaughton, Konchar, Beauchamp, MKE '25 1st (no protections)

Second one is fine. First one is rather have McCollum or Ingram and deal with no direct

[RiotPunch]

#1
MKE: Stewart, MKE '25 1st (5-30 protected)
NOP: Lopez
DET: McCollum, NOP '30 2nd, NOP '31 2nd

#2
MKE: Cam Johnson, Vince Williams Jr.
MEM: Portis
BKN: Connaughton, Konchar, Beauchamp, MKE '25 1st (no protections)

Second one is fine. First one is rather have McCollum or Ingram and deal with no direct

Can't do the 2nd one without the 1st one. And McCollum would be terrible here.

[Ron Swanson]

You guys can go ahead and gamble that one of the worst draft and develop organizations in the league is just gonna fart out a playoff rotation guy between our gaggle of 2nd round picks. That’s not a bet I’d be willing to make.

[paulpressey25]

#1
MKE: Stewart, MKE '25 1st (5-30 protected)
NOP: Lopez
DET: McCollum, NOP '30 2nd, NOP '31 2nd

#2
MKE: Cam Johnson, Vince Williams Jr.
MEM: Portis
BKN: Connaughton, Konchar, Beauchamp, MKE '25 1st (no protections)

I don’t know what to think of Vince Williiams, would they part with him. He’s sort of the key to that deal.

[RiotPunch]

#1
MKE: Stewart, MKE '25 1st (5-30 protected)
NOP: Lopez
DET: McCollum, NOP '30 2nd, NOP '31 2nd

#2
MKE: Cam Johnson, Vince Williams Jr.
MEM: Portis
BKN: Connaughton, Konchar, Beauchamp, MKE '25 1st (no protections)

I don’t know what to think of Vince Williiams, would they part with him. He’s sort of the key to that deal.

I think they might for Bobby, but yeah he's your starting 2 after this so kind of need him. Cam alone doesn't solve that problem.

[ShootingtheJ]

#1
MKE: Stewart, MKE '25 1st (5-30 protected)
NOP: Lopez
DET: McCollum, NOP '30 2nd, NOP '31 2nd

#2
MKE: Cam Johnson, Vince Williams Jr.
MEM: Portis
BKN: Connaughton, Konchar, Beauchamp, MKE '25 1st (no protections)

I don’t know what to think of Vince Williiams, would they part with him. He’s sort of the key to that deal.

Since Memphis is in love with Smart, Vince has no role. Bane isn't going anywhere.

[yb90]

#1
MKE: Stewart, MKE '25 1st (5-30 protected)
NOP: Lopez
DET: McCollum, NOP '30 2nd, NOP '31 2nd

#2
MKE: Cam Johnson, Vince Williams Jr.
MEM: Portis
BKN: Connaughton, Konchar, Beauchamp, MKE '25 1st (no protections)

Second one is fine. First one is rather have McCollum or Ingram and deal with no direct

Can't do the 2nd one without the 1st one. And McCollum would be terrible here.

That's not a bad group of trades although I'm not sure N.O.P would trade C.J. I worry about rebounding but maybe A.Drummond can be aquired as a back up big.

Cam Johnson is a great value M. Porter Jr and Stewart is the quick footed big that can take the punishment of banging with Embiid or Jokic until crunch time when Giannis can match up with them if needed.

[paulpressey25]

I think they might for Bobby, but yeah he's your starting 2 after this so kind of need him. Cam alone doesn't solve that problem.

So Brook,Bobby, Pat, MarJon for Stew, Cam and Vince Williams.

I could get there if our guys weren’t able to pull in anything better. But we really don’t have a true center. How much under the apron are we to use the TPMLE?

[raferfenix]

I do wonder if / when Doc might challenge Giannis to be a center.

Go win DPOY and the rebounding title. You don’t need Brook as a security blanket.

Giannis averaging 30 and dominating the ball isn’t as necessary with Dame and (healthy) Khris.