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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#301 » by LuessiT » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:38 am

The GTJ stuff could be just media fluff. But if it’s not, it would be a 120% contract next year (so 3ish million), then early bird rights. I very much doubt that this would be enticing to him, but let’s see.
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Post#302 » by raferfenix » Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:07 am

LuessiT wrote:The GTJ stuff could be just media fluff. But if it’s not, it would be a 120% contract next year (so 3ish million), then early bird rights. I very much doubt that this would be enticing to him, but let’s see.


If we drop below the 2nd apron, could we use the tpmle this offseason?

Certainly could be media fluff. And money aside how well he fits is TBD too.

But if GTJ does hit here wouldn’t it be great if he could develop as our third option offensively while Khris rides off into the sunset.
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Post#303 » by nagawicka » Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:24 am

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PG Graveyard wrote:It’s still shocking to me how gullible the nba media is. Giannis makes a funny quip about how he may get traded if the Bucks don’t perform and now they are hyperventilating about how this is Giannis slow playing a trade request. Only people more gullible may be political reporters

It’s not them being gullible, it’s them taking a quote out of context purely for clicks/views. They know it’s a meaningless quote, the intent of posting it out of context is to drive engagement.

Taking money to look stupid and perform poorly at their jobs; sure, not a good look but everyone knows 85% of the reportage/ blogging/youtube punditry is uselessly heavy-handed, overly-detailed in way that turns baseline dialog into fan aneurysms that a) misleads gullible fans that don't get it, b) is a total & complete waste of time and an abuse of those who do see it, and c) damages the sport, the community that supports it, and the players. So, yeah, *absolutely* the nba media's gullible insofar as they believe they're moving their lives forward. But hey, if that's what they want out of life, more power to the-- Nah, no more power to them.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#304 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:05 pm

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pifhluk23 wrote:
MissKhriddleton wrote:Would now be a good time to bring up the idea that we should have traded him?


That ship sailed a long time ago, Giannis wanted him here so he stays. The real question is when will he accept the Ginobli treatment.


The 6th man stuff is not relevant here. He's never available to even be the 6th man. And in the games he's played the last two years, it has been at reduced minutes.

If anything, he's played less minutes than a top sixth man would have played the past couple seasons.


Middleton played more minutes per game last year than last years 6th man award winner.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#305 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:20 pm

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pifhluk23 wrote:
That ship sailed a long time ago, Giannis wanted him here so he stays. The real question is when will he accept the Ginobli treatment.


The 6th man stuff is not relevant here. He's never available to even be the 6th man. And in the games he's played the last two years, it has been at reduced minutes.

If anything, he's played less minutes than a top sixth man would have played the past couple seasons.


Middleton played more minutes per game last year than last years 6th man award winner.

Reid played 81 games, Middleton 55.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#306 » by Siefer » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:00 pm

All roads lead to circular debates about Khris Middleton.

What are we having for dinner tonight? A discussion about if Khris Middleton can be a 6th man, actually. Why did you come home so late last night? I was deep in conversation about whether or not Khris Middleton's availability caused Giannis to get hurt, honey!
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#307 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:12 pm

raferfenix wrote:
LuessiT wrote:The GTJ stuff could be just media fluff. But if it’s not, it would be a 120% contract next year (so 3ish million), then early bird rights. I very much doubt that this would be enticing to him, but let’s see.


If we drop below the 2nd apron, could we use the tpmle this offseason?



This is certainly something to keep an eye on regardless of the outcome of this season. Safe to say you're probably looking at around $60-70 million in salary coming off the books between Khris, Brook, and Bobby. Their best scenario is probably still re-signing Khris and Brook to lower cap hit extensions while cashing out on the Bobby asset for a younger, long-term piece before the trade deadline. You can still theoretically thread that needle and duck below the 2nd apron with the cap going up, which is why I'm not 100% convinced that this is the "last dance" with this big-4 (unless it just goes completely off the rails).
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#309 » by LuessiT » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:02 pm

raferfenix wrote:
LuessiT wrote:The GTJ stuff could be just media fluff. But if it’s not, it would be a 120% contract next year (so 3ish million), then early bird rights. I very much doubt that this would be enticing to him, but let’s see.


If we drop below the 2nd apron, could we use the tpmle this offseason?

Certainly could be media fluff. And money aside how well he fits is TBD too.

But if GTJ does hit here wouldn’t it be great if he could develop as our third option offensively while Khris rides off into the sunset.


We have quite a few significant potential expiring contracts. Middleton (PO), Brook, Portis (PO), Pat (PO) so it’s certainly a possibility. Realistically to open up the tax MLE either Middleton or Brook+1 would have to bolt. So I don’t think ‘opening up the tax MLE to resign GTJ’ will be a valid strategy. More like ‘we can’t / don’t want to retain players x y z and thus happen to have the tax MLE available’.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#310 » by fansinceforever » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:33 pm



Gonna be a lot of this all season if we don't come out of the gates playing well.
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Post#311 » by emunney » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:35 pm

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#312 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:33 pm

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#314 » by JonHeist » Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:44 pm

blazza18 wrote:Not the ideal situation but starting to lean more and more towards the idea of needing to trade Middleton for guys you have more trust in being healthy because at this point we just can’t with Khris anymore.




this board talked about trading Khris all offseason and there have been zero (0) half-decent, legal trades proposed involving Khris

(and the same could be said about Brook tbh)
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#315 » by fansinceforever » Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:21 pm

Lol there were several legal deals for both Middleton and Brook in the offseason that if offered, The Bucks would absolutely be interested in.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#316 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:24 pm

The problem with trading Brook or Khris now that we're past the offseason is that dealing either would probably require additional roster tinkering beyond that singular move. That's why most decent proposals would have been done before the draft when they had an incomplete roster and two additional pick assets to work with. Even a Bobby trade might be a tight needle to thread given that you're limited to salaries under $12.5 million, plus the whole "who's your backup big then?" dilemma. The 2nd apron restrictions are real.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#317 » by BroncoBuck » Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:45 pm

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#318 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:03 pm

ESPN is exhausting. It's not as if Giannis is a free agent any time soon. He's locked in for three seasons before he comes upon his player option. The Bucks could fall on their asses this season and still be a year and a half away from needing to make some kind of decision on trading Giannis.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#319 » by raferfenix » Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:48 pm

Giannis is due for better injury luck come playoff time.

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Shockingly, Middleton to Miss Opener 

Post#320 » by JonHeist » Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:47 pm

fansinceforever wrote:Lol there were several legal deals for both Middleton and Brook in the offseason that if offered, The Bucks would absolutely be interested in.



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