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Post#301 » by powerball1373 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:34 am

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Loving Tyler's game & growth this season. Rooting big time for him to remain healthy and have enough steam to see it through for the whole season.


His episode on The OGs podcast with UD and Mike Miller is a must-watch for any Heat fan. Talking about the legacy he wants to leave on the city of Miami, etc. I can see why Riley has thus far refused to trade him.
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Post#302 » by Hoops3355 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:45 am

Dc__20 wrote:My prediction is he ends up in Memphis for a bare bones package. Memphis do the Toronto thing and Miami gets him out. Beyond this season who knows where he plays


I watch the Grizz a little bit on LP. I wouldn't mad with Clarke and Pippen coming back + w/e. I never thought we'd be trading Jimmy figured he'd be back on some MLE 3 year deal with whoever we sign with in 2026 and ride that wave into Big Face taking Dukin's place in the larger Miami market. Brooooos I cannot fathom how dumb all of this is by people. It's legit living plush rent free in my head.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#303 » by powerball1373 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:52 am

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Post#304 » by al bondiga » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:13 am

MartyConlonJr wrote:Can Jaime play PG, because it would be absolutely wild to have a starting lineup of guys we drafted, and also have a huge team.

C - Ware (7'0)
PF - Bam (6'9)
SF - Jovic (6'10)
SG - Herro (6'5)
PG - Jaquez (6'6)

Seems anti Spo in terms of size, but all 5 guys can pass, above the level you would expect for their position, and if Bam gets out of his funk and the close of last year proves to be closer to his 3 point capability, you have most guys able to knock down the 3, defend and score, and there is a nice mix of inside and outside there.

I do still think the missing piece is a bonafide playmaker, like Fox, though there does need to be enough shooting in this day and age. If Fox can't provide it, the rest of the guys have to. Only last season Fox was making 2.9 of 7.8 threes a game though at a 36.9% clip. Not amazing but solid, and high volume.
It's an Okay lineup... But it would only happened if everybody else was injured... Not enough Lateral Movement ... They would only play zone ok and would not be able to defend the 3pt well
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Post#305 » by Vertical Limit » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:37 am

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FWIW people have been mentioning Jimmy only wants Phoenix and Miami better do right by him “to make fun of the blazers doing the franchise goat dirty” but he only wants Phoenix now because of his preferred 4 they’re the only team that actually wants him and they may be the only team in the league that wants him

I can almost guarantee and put anything on a wager that Butler to Phoenix is not happening..

Beal may very well have the worst contract in the league. Not just because of the 2 years remaining after this season, but also because he for some random reason, even tho he has never have been a top 5 player at his position, he has a no trade clause that carries in every trade..

I remember when he was becoming available from the wizards and fans on this board kept saying we need to get him.. i said at that time Herro and beal are a wash.. im no herro fan, but my past statement was incorrect.. herro is better than beal… and doesnt cost that much against the cap compared to him..


I dont see a team in the whole league that is willingly going to take on his insane salary into their cap space just because.. he is not a difference maker and does not take your franchise to another level. The Heat are definitely not going to take in his contract, theyre trying to create space..

And then, remember that Beal chose to waive his NTC for Phoenix over us (thank god he spared us from a massive mistake) because he nd his wife wanted to be as close to Los Angeles as they can..
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Post#306 » by al bondiga » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:43 am

Like a poster said...
Herro has unshakable swager...but he is still the typical ymca phenomenal Competitor and player

He just has to realize that superstars in nba 50% of the time playing dirty but make it look like they are incredible and Crystal clean.

making the game look this way, is why they become superstars. keep on digging herro, You are extremely close...hornacek or ...
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Post#307 » by Pokuokic » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:53 am

I've said it before but a trade for Issac or WCJ and KCP for Butler is such a obvious trade for both teams Orlando become a legit threat and Miami get good role players to compete now and won't ruin the other young guys development.
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Post#308 » by marson » Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:06 am

Tyler Herro 6th season
PPG 23.8
REB 5.6
AST 5.0
FT 86.4
FG% 46.9
3P% 40.6
TS% 61.7

Steph Curry 6th season (MVP year and 1st championship season)
PPG 23.8
REB 4.3
AST 7.7
FT 91.4
FG% 48.7
3P% 44.3
TS% 63.8


The stats are eerily similar, and it's wild for Tyler. Without a true second scoring option like Klay, he's been facing double teams every game. The potential ahead is limitless.

And yes there won't be another Steph Curry anymore, It's just to highlight Tyler leap this season.
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Post#309 » by powerball1373 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:13 am

marson wrote:Tyler Herro 6th season
PPG 23.8
REB 5.6
AST 5.0
FT 86.4
FG% 46.9
3P% 40.6
TS% 61.7

Steph Curry 6th season (MVP year and 1st championship season)
PPG 23.8
REB 4.3
AST 7.7
FT 91.4
FG% 48.7
3P% 44.3
TS% 63.8


The stats are eerily similar, and it's wild for Tyler. Without a true second scoring option like Klay, he's been facing double teams every game. The potential ahead is limitless.


It really is crazy when you consider the volume of 3s he's shooting. Now do I think he's going to be Steph? No, of course not... that's once in a lifetime stuff. But he's going to be a real star for years to come.
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Post#310 » by wadenation305 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:22 am

Heat have done better in the 13-20 range of the draft than most teams in the 1-10 area of the draft
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Post#311 » by fishfuego. » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:54 am

al bondiga wrote:
MartyConlonJr wrote:Can Jaime play PG, because it would be absolutely wild to have a starting lineup of guys we drafted, and also have a huge team.

C - Ware (7'0)
PF - Bam (6'9)
SF - Jovic (6'10)
SG - Herro (6'5)
PG - Jaquez (6'6)

Seems anti Spo in terms of size, but all 5 guys can pass, above the level you would expect for their position, and if Bam gets out of his funk and the close of last year proves to be closer to his 3 point capability, you have most guys able to knock down the 3, defend and score, and there is a nice mix of inside and outside there.

I do still think the missing piece is a bonafide playmaker, like Fox, though there does need to be enough shooting in this day and age. If Fox can't provide it, the rest of the guys have to. Only last season Fox was making 2.9 of 7.8 threes a game though at a 36.9% clip. Not amazing but solid, and high volume.
It's an Okay lineup... But it would only happened if everybody else was injured... Not enough Lateral Movement ... They would only play zone ok and would not be able to defend the 3pt well

IMO a lineup such as this would need to be used when the team is struggling with rebounds and second chances vs tall teams. Cavs, Celtics just to name a few are teams that are lengthy, and in a playoff atmosphere playing small ball all the time, every time will result in exhausted team due to all the extra work required to defend/rebound. That has been my issue with Spo, adjustments to counter such tall lineups, and I don’t think he has it yet in his playbook, but it would change other teams approach and may affect them as well.
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Post#312 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:36 am

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marson wrote:Tyler Herro 6th season
PPG 23.8
REB 5.6
AST 5.0
FT 86.4
FG% 46.9
3P% 40.6
TS% 61.7

Steph Curry 6th season (MVP year and 1st championship season)
PPG 23.8
REB 4.3
AST 7.7
FT 91.4
FG% 48.7
3P% 44.3
TS% 63.8


The stats are eerily similar, and it's wild for Tyler. Without a true second scoring option like Klay, he's been facing double teams every game. The potential ahead is limitless.


It really is crazy when you consider the volume of 3s he's shooting. Now do I think he's going to be Steph? No, of course not... that's once in a lifetime stuff. But he's going to be a real star for years to come.


I wouldn’t count it out. Didn’t Steph start off slow. He was doubted earlier in his career until he found himself.
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Post#313 » by batterybro42 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:12 pm

The next leap in Herro's game will come from his handle, and ability to bring the ball up the floor. Right now the solution for defenses when he gets going is to pick him up full court, and apply a ton of pressure to him all the way down the floor. This has gotten weird for Miami late in games, and Herro sometimes has issues beating the press, and handling the ball comfortably that far out.

What is nice to see from Herro is that he is an igniter and is starting to frequently have these double digit scoring quarters where he just takes over the game. If Miami can find him a consistent scoring partner especially another guard, he is going to be tough to deal with. Fox and him would make a crazy backcourt.
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Post#314 » by RexBoyWonder » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:13 pm

At this point with this market - Id' say there's a 95% chance Jimmy finishes the season here.

We won't take on beal, and no other team is very interested in Jimmy.

I think Jimmy is smart enough and rational enough to realize he played himself into a corner, and his way to minimize the damage in image and salary is to be a good soldier from now on and play well for the rest of the season.

Some in the locker room might not like it, some fans might not like it, some in the front office might not like it - But we're stuck with him and he's stuck with us for the time being. If he can get his act together it might work well enough, at least until the end of the season when he can opt out (he might not do that IMO, but that's a different story we'll cross that bridge when we get there).
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Post#315 » by Pokuokic » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:16 pm

Steph was 3 years older at least as well at the 6th season mark but I was wrong about Tyler before but him reaching Steph level would be absurd but......
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Post#316 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:33 pm

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Post#317 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:01 pm

marson wrote:Tyler Herro 6th season
PPG 23.8
REB 5.6
AST 5.0
FT 86.4
FG% 46.9
3P% 40.6
TS% 61.7

Steph Curry 6th season (MVP year and 1st championship season)
PPG 23.8
REB 4.3
AST 7.7
FT 91.4
FG% 48.7
3P% 44.3
TS% 63.8


The stats are eerily similar, and it's wild for Tyler. Without a true second scoring option like Klay, he's been facing double teams every game. The potential ahead is limitless.

And yes there won't be another Steph Curry anymore, It's just to highlight Tyler leap this season.


If you gave Jimmy and Bam 17 shots a night they’d match Klays 21.7 scoring output, Jimmy would soar over it tbh, let’s not act like Herro is the only one getting double teamed lol
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Post#318 » by contract » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:03 pm

marson wrote:Tyler Herro 6th season
PPG 23.8
REB 5.6
AST 5.0
FT 86.4
FG% 46.9
3P% 40.6
TS% 61.7

Steph Curry 6th season (MVP year and 1st championship season)
PPG 23.8
REB 4.3
AST 7.7
FT 91.4
FG% 48.7
3P% 44.3
TS% 63.8


The stats are eerily similar, and it's wild for Tyler. Without a true second scoring option like Klay, he's been facing double teams every game. The potential ahead is limitless.

And yes there won't be another Steph Curry anymore, It's just to highlight Tyler leap this season.

And yet Tyler may or may not make the All Star team. 23.8 ppg was 6th in the NBA in '14-'15 ... right now 23.8 ppg has Tyler tied for 18th in the NBA.

Different time, different game. And of course, you have to do it all season.
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Post#319 » by contract » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:05 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:At this point with this market - Id' say there's a 95% chance Jimmy finishes the season here.

We won't take on beal, and no other team is very interested in Jimmy.

I think Jimmy is smart enough and rational enough to realize he played himself into a corner, and his way to minimize the damage in image and salary is to be a good soldier from now on and play well for the rest of the season.

Some in the locker room might not like it, some fans might not like it, some in the front office might not like it - But we're stuck with him and he's stuck with us for the time being. If he can get his act together it might work well enough, at least until the end of the season when he can opt out (he might not do that IMO, but that's a different story we'll cross that bridge when we get there).

I'd say there's a 99% chance that we'll still own his rights. I have no idea where Jimmy will be though.
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Post#320 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:11 pm

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marson wrote:Tyler Herro 6th season
PPG 23.8
REB 5.6
AST 5.0
FT 86.4
FG% 46.9
3P% 40.6
TS% 61.7

Steph Curry 6th season (MVP year and 1st championship season)
PPG 23.8
REB 4.3
AST 7.7
FT 91.4
FG% 48.7
3P% 44.3
TS% 63.8


The stats are eerily similar, and it's wild for Tyler. Without a true second scoring option like Klay, he's been facing double teams every game. The potential ahead is limitless.

And yes there won't be another Steph Curry anymore, It's just to highlight Tyler leap this season.

And yet Tyler may or may not make the All Star team. 23.8 ppg was 6th in the NBA in '14-'15 ... right now 23.8 ppg has Tyler tied for 18th in the NBA.

Different time, different game. And of course, you have to do it all season.


Hopefully I’m wrong but it’s looking like we won’t have an all star this year but I guess I don’t care because the format this year is trash anyways I might now even watch lol.

With Lamelo leading the guard votes the 4 guard spots are locked in at Lamelo Mitchell Dame and Brunson. Then assuming both of the “wild card” spots or whatever you want to call them go to guards (no guarantee they do) I don’t see how you don’t have garland as an all star averaging 21-3-7 at a 70 win pace right now. Then it’s likely between Trae Cade and Herro (surely Haliburton isn’t in it) and Herros only argument over either of them would be if we have a better record than them at the time of the coaches vote with Trae averaging 23-3-12 and Cade averaging 24-7-10 but then again who knows, there’s almost always snubs so maybe that happens for us. We’re currently 1 game ahead of both with a somewhat rough stretch coming up
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