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Post#321 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:45 am

Skates wrote:Looking back at more Okafor stuff, he really is an amazing ballhandler for a big man, both with his passing (more efficient than flashy) and his dribbling from both face up and back to the basket positions as well as dribbling out of double teams.

As for a jumpshot, I love the fact that he knows how to use the glass. Like many other things he does that is a lost art for most players now.

I wonder if the foul shooting is the same issue Shaq had with difficulty because his hands are almost too big. He has a very soft touch everywhere else, I think he can improve that over time to around 70%.

Defensively he looks decent as a one on one post defender, though getting in top shape will help that. I don't she him ever being the pure help defender that Noel and Embiid can be, but if he stays near the rim he can defend it well enough, a nice fit with Noel working on D from outside in and off the weakside.

Not a perfect player, but damn, he's good.


Agreed.

I'm not sure if he will ever shoot 70% from the line, but he has a comprehensive offfensive game from within 12-15 ft. I mean, he really is a highly skilled and dominant player in that part of the game.

I watched him play a number of times this year, but have started watching a lot more highlights of him recently, and so many of the moves that he makes will dominate single defense even in the NBA.

He not only has the great footwork, great hands, and a soft touch, but he has a ton of post moves, and really uses leverage very well to make his imposing physical gifts even more effective. What I mean is that, even if he was playing against someone with equal or better physical gifts like a Drummond, or Cousins he still uses leverage so well to claim space that he will still be unstoppable a lot of the time.

If his defense was as good as his offense we would be talking about Tim Duncan. Unfortunately, it isn't, but he can still improve in that area with focus, and conditioning.


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Post#322 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:47 am

Noel/Jahlil dilemma.

Offensively, Jahlil is a very good passer and ball handler. So if Noel's decides to double jahlil, I do think Jah can atleast make a hockey pass at the perimeter for eventual easy basket for Noel.

Defensively, Jahlil can step outside then with Noel patroling the paint. Similar to Zach/Marc defending GSW in the later games of the series.

Jah doesn't commit fully on defensive end, because college game only allows 5 fouls and most opponent really tries to get him into foul trouble (vs kaminsky in the tourney). Second, he can't really go outside because doing so will make their interior defense weak.
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Post#323 » by Sportfan73 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:48 am

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Sportfan73 wrote:Why is no one mentioning that he could possibly add 20 to 30 pounds of muscle over his first 5 years. He's only 19! Talk about physically dominant


ESPN ran an article before the draft saying he lost weight training before the draft. Improved his speed laterally and increased his standing vertical by 2.5 inches and max vertical by 4 inches according to the article. Trained at P3.

I didn't necessarily mean adding that to his overall weight as much as trimming the baby fat and adding that much of muscle maybe topping out around 280
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Post#324 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:52 am

I do think Jahlil can eventually be a good shooter. He showed good touch with Duke so is during his workout with the Lakers. That natural touch is the difference between him and guys like shaq, deandre and Drummond.
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Post#325 » by crow » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:55 am

76ciology wrote:I do think Jahlil can eventually be a good shooter. He showed good touch with Duke so is during his workout with the Lakers. That natural touch is the difference between him and guys like shaq, deandre and Drummond.


That and the other 3 guys you listed all have rediculous athletisism. I would compare Jah to somebody, but I honestly can't think of anybody.
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Post#326 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:57 am

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76ciology wrote:I do think Jahlil can eventually be a good shooter. He showed good touch with Duke so is during his workout with the Lakers. That natural touch is the difference between him and guys like shaq, deandre and Drummond.


That and the other 3 guys you listed all have rediculous athletisism. I would compare Jah to somebody, but I honestly can't think of anybody.


I'm referring that Jahlil shows more potential with his shooting than with those guys because of his natural touch.
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Post#327 » by crow » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:06 am

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76ciology wrote:I do think Jahlil can eventually be a good shooter. He showed good touch with Duke so is during his workout with the Lakers. That natural touch is the difference between him and guys like shaq, deandre and Drummond.


That and the other 3 guys you listed all have rediculous athletisism. I would compare Jah to somebody, but I honestly can't think of anybody.


I'm referring that Jahlil shows more potential with his shooting than with those guys because of his naturalYa touch.


Oh I see. My bad I'm tired lol.

Agree with you then. His shot form looks nice, and his touch around the rim would make you think he'd shoot fairly well, but I guess not. I'm sure he'll figure it out.
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Post#328 » by MRxBLACK » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:42 am

IMO this was his best play of the season. Nuts.

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Post#329 » by MRxBLACK » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:03 am

"Even with his 51.0% conversion rate from the free-throw line, the 19-year-old’s true shooting percentage was a stellar 65.0% last season. That number is better than the freshman year TS% of any big man picked in the top three of the NBA Draft since 1980; hall of Famer Patrick Ewing comes closest with his 64.5 TS% in 1982 as a freshman with Georgetown."

Joel Embiid 65.5 TS% in 2014.
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Post#330 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:05 am

MRxBLACK wrote:"Even with his 51.0% conversion rate from the free-throw line, the 19-year-old’s true shooting percentage was a stellar 65.0% last season. That number is better than the freshman year TS% of any big man picked in the top three of the NBA Draft since 1980; hall of Famer Patrick Ewing comes closest with his 64.5 TS% in 1982 as a freshman with Georgetown."

Joel Embiid 65.5 TS% in 2014.


Yeah, and Jahlil was able to do it with Volume. And before you say he played inferior competition, he was able to score against multiple defenders (frequently double teamed).
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Post#331 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:06 am

MRxBLACK wrote:IMO this was his best play of the season. Nuts.



4 defenders.
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Post#332 » by MRxBLACK » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:09 am

76ciology wrote:4 defenders.

Tokoto wanted no part of that.
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Post#333 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:25 am

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76ciology wrote:4 defenders.

Tokoto wanted no part of that.


Probably afraid that it will hurt his rim defense number.
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Post#334 » by PhilasFinest » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:32 am

SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Post#335 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:39 am

MRxBLACK wrote:"Even with his 51.0% conversion rate from the free-throw line, the 19-year-old’s true shooting percentage was a stellar 65.0% last season. That number is better than the freshman year TS% of any big man picked in the top three of the NBA Draft since 1980; hall of Famer Patrick Ewing comes closest with his 64.5 TS% in 1982 as a freshman with Georgetown."

Joel Embiid 65.5 TS% in 2014.


So...is that an error in the original quote?
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Post#336 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:40 am

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In terms of size, mobility and skillset, he reminds me of DMC. Just really need to step up with his rebounding and defense.
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Post#337 » by MRxBLACK » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:41 am

sixers238 wrote:
MRxBLACK wrote:"Even with his 51.0% conversion rate from the free-throw line, the 19-year-old’s true shooting percentage was a stellar 65.0% last season. That number is better than the freshman year TS% of any big man picked in the top three of the NBA Draft since 1980; hall of Famer Patrick Ewing comes closest with his 64.5 TS% in 1982 as a freshman with Georgetown."

Joel Embiid 65.5 TS% in 2014.


So...is that an error in the original quote?

Depends if he used a minutes cutoff and Embiid didn't qualify.
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Post#338 » by PhilasFinest » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:53 am

76ciology wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:


In terms of size, mobility and skillset, he reminds me of DMC. Just really need to step up with his rebounding and defense.


I actually think he is more skilled down low and in the post than Cousins, especially coming out of college.
Cousins has a better jumper, and is a better rebounder.But also has a lower IQ and can be pretty inefficient.
And of course, Okafor seems to have his head on straight unlike Cousins,especially early on in his career.

Can def see how they compare tho.
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Post#339 » by Skates » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:55 am

Okafor is already a far better player than Al Jefferson was after three years in the league, so I am not really loving that comparison, especially since it took nearly a decade for Al Jeff to become a decent passer out of the post.

The best comparison I see is really more of an analogy.

Jabari Parker is to Andrew Wiggins as Jahlil Okafor is to (a healthy) Joel Embiid, right down to the bit of baby fat. More skilled and ridiculously well developed offensively, not the physical freak of an athlete that Embiid is, ready to play from day one on offense. And no, I am hoping they don't share ACL injuries.
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Post#340 » by PhilasFinest » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:01 am

I enjoy watching this one too lol
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