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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#321 » by DrCoach » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:14 pm

BugginOut wrote:Lol at trading a 26 year-old KOQ, for a 35 year-old expiring Tony Allen. While throwing in a pick. Such a Knick move.



Thank you, WTF are these dudes talking about?
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#322 » by j4remi » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:57 pm

Add me to the run of KOQ is worth more than Tony Allen's expiring contract. I'll just add that even if you feel he's expendable, you should be looking to get something of long term value back since he's a cost effective player through next year who has been our best bench piece. Lance and a second for Allen...I'd do that.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#323 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:22 pm

j4remi wrote:Add me to the run of KOQ is worth more than Tony Allen's expiring contract. I'll just add that even if you feel he's expendable, you should be looking to get something of long term value back since he's a cost effective player through next year who has been our best bench piece. Lance and a second for Allen...I'd do that.


and 1 for the first part. i'm not trading lance for the same reasons. he has been gimpy with plantar fasciitis, but his contract is also very cheap. why pay to move it? too soon to decide he's done.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#324 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:34 pm

Rockets just lost Capela for a month plus. I don't know if they could have anything we realistically want. Last year that Morey tried to swindle Phil out of a 1st for Beverley but, it seems like he's back in their plans again.

The need is there but, I just don't think they have anything I would want outside of picks.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#325 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:35 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Rockets just lost Capela for a month plus. I don't know if they could have anything we realistically want. Last year that Morey tried to swindle Phil out of a 1st for Beverley but, it seems like he's back in their plans again.

The need is there but, I just don't think they have anything I would want outside of picks.


nah, morey. we good.
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Post#326 » by HEZI » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:45 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Rockets just lost Capela for a month plus. I don't know if they could have anything we realistically want. Last year that Morey tried to swindle Phil out of a 1st for Beverley but, it seems like he's back in their plans again.

The need is there but, I just don't think they have anything I would want outside of picks.


I'd take Montrezl Harrell in a split second but they aren't trading him especially if Capela is out now
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#327 » by Im Coming Home » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:01 pm

BugginOut wrote:Lol at trading a 26 year-old KOQ, for a 35 year-old expiring Tony Allen. While throwing in a pick. Such a Knick move.

Seriously, and Tony Allen doesn't even help us in an area of need.

We have two good defenders at the 2 spot already in Lee and Holiday.

And at the 3 we got Melo and Lance/Kuz.

Giving up KOQ for Allen when he would be playing the backup 3, and/or wouldn't improve our starting 5 much/if at all because of his offensive deficiencies.

Like wtf?!

And you could NEVER play Noah and Allen together, it'd be 3 v 5 on offense. :lol:
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#328 » by j4remi » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:14 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:and 1 for the first part. i'm not trading lance for the same reasons. he has been gimpy with plantar fasciitis, but his contract is also very cheap. why pay to move it? too soon to decide he's done.


I'll fully admit my bias here, I don't like Lance at all and consider Allen an upgrade in that he gives us an elite defender rather than Lance who is a good defender but whose offense I feel has been mostly figured out (until he starts making defenders pay for chasing him off the three point line at least). Plus, as an avid Kuzminskas fan, I just wanna make room to develop dude. I think dumping Lance comes down to how people rate the guy and I've been the biggest Lance hater from day one; again, I'm biased as hell but I'll own it.
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Post#329 » by Mecca » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:20 pm

Lance Thomas and Baker is the most I'm going for Tony. I don't think that gets him, but he would make some sense for Memphis. Fits their identity.

O'Quinn is 26 years old, on an excellent contract, and is the best 5 on the team. Noah's decline is steep and will only continue to regress. Good God Phil, what reefer were you blowing?
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Post#330 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:27 pm

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BugginOut wrote:Lol at trading a 26 year-old KOQ, for a 35 year-old expiring Tony Allen. While throwing in a pick. Such a Knick move.

Seriously, and Tony Allen doesn't even help us in an area of need.

We have two good defenders at the 2 spot already in Lee and Holiday.

And at the 3 we got Melo and Lance/Kuz.

Giving up KOQ for Allen when he would be playing the backup 3, and/or wouldn't improve our starting 5 much/if at all because of his offensive deficiencies.

Like wtf?!

And you could NEVER play Noah and Allen together, it'd be 3 v 5 on offense. :lol:


I can see why you wouldn't do it if we are thinking about the future, but Tony Allen would def help us. Our defense is trash and we can use help everywhere.
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Post#331 » by El Poochio » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:44 pm

Mecca wrote:Lance Thomas and Baker is the most I'm going for Tony. I don't think that gets him, but he would make some sense for Memphis. Fits their identity.

O'Quinn is 26 years old, on an excellent contract, and is the best 5 on the team. Noah's decline is steep and will only continue to regress. Good God Phil, what reefer were you blowing?


I still believe in Noah, it was his dream to be a Knick, he would be essential when he puts his body in form and have more Mary Jane to ease the stress of his lack of finishing
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#332 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:26 pm

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Jeff Van Gully wrote:and 1 for the first part. i'm not trading lance for the same reasons. he has been gimpy with plantar fasciitis, but his contract is also very cheap. why pay to move it? too soon to decide he's done.


I'll fully admit my bias here, I don't like Lance at all and consider Allen an upgrade in that he gives us an elite defender rather than Lance who is a good defender but whose offense I feel has been mostly figured out (until he starts making defenders pay for chasing him off the three point line at least). Plus, as an avid Kuzminskas fan, I just wanna make room to develop dude. I think dumping Lance comes down to how people rate the guy and I've been the biggest Lance hater from day one; again, I'm biased as hell but I'll own it.


fair enough. shoot. $6m will be a decent contract for a depth guy come next year.

i am not opposed to developing kuz as well. but, man. horny is getting on his azz for his lack of defensive awareness. deservedly so. but i like that guy. much more upside than lance.

i wouldn't cry if we dealt lance or anything, but i wouldn't want to give additional assets to do it.

why memphis would want lance thomas is beyond me.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#333 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:29 pm

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Mecca wrote:Lance Thomas and Baker is the most I'm going for Tony. I don't think that gets him, but he would make some sense for Memphis. Fits their identity.

O'Quinn is 26 years old, on an excellent contract, and is the best 5 on the team. Noah's decline is steep and will only continue to regress. Good God Phil, what reefer were you blowing?


I still believe in Noah, it was his dream to be a Knick, he would be essential when he puts his body in form and have more Mary Jane to ease the stress of his lack of finishing


we need to get him properly smoked up. because his body looks great. (pause)

something must be going on in the way of aches and pains. let that herbalist cook.

i wonder if that baby is in the house with him too.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#334 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:30 pm

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BugginOut wrote:Lol at trading a 26 year-old KOQ, for a 35 year-old expiring Tony Allen. While throwing in a pick. Such a Knick move.

Seriously, and Tony Allen doesn't even help us in an area of need.

We have two good defenders at the 2 spot already in Lee and Holiday.

And at the 3 we got Melo and Lance/Kuz.

Giving up KOQ for Allen when he would be playing the backup 3, and/or wouldn't improve our starting 5 much/if at all because of his offensive deficiencies.

Like wtf?!

And you could NEVER play Noah and Allen together, it'd be 3 v 5 on offense. :lol:


I can see why you wouldn't do it if we are thinking about the future, but Tony Allen would def help us. Our defense is trash and we can use help everywhere.


word. we got weapons. we need some dog on the perimeter.
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Post#335 » by Capn'O » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:29 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:Rockets just lost Capela for a month plus. I don't know if they could have anything we realistically want. Last year that Morey tried to swindle Phil out of a 1st for Beverley but, it seems like he's back in their plans again.

The need is there but, I just don't think they have anything I would want outside of picks.


nah, morey. we good.


I would want Patrick Beverley. Even trade with filler (Baker + KOQ works).

Then play KP at the 5 and Melo at the 4 more.
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Post#336 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:34 pm

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Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:Rockets just lost Capela for a month plus. I don't know if they could have anything we realistically want. Last year that Morey tried to swindle Phil out of a 1st for Beverley but, it seems like he's back in their plans again.

The need is there but, I just don't think they have anything I would want outside of picks.


nah, morey. we good.


I would want Patrick Beverley. Even trade with filler (Baker + KOQ works).

Then play KP at the 5 and Melo at the 4 more.


patrick beverly's deal is more delicious than KO's.
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Post#337 » by NY 567 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:38 pm

I think they're something to O'Quinn, the guy can play. I wish Horneck would play him more. Of course, if a deal that's too good to refuse comes along, you'd have to trade him, otherwise, I'd hold on to him.
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Post#338 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:39 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:Rockets just lost Capela for a month plus. I don't know if they could have anything we realistically want. Last year that Morey tried to swindle Phil out of a 1st for Beverley but, it seems like he's back in their plans again.

The need is there but, I just don't think they have anything I would want outside of picks.


I'd take Montrezl Harrell in a split second but they aren't trading him especially if Capela is out now



KOQ for Harrell and KJ Mcdaniels would at least help out defense. Not so much with a 4th scorer though.
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Post#339 » by Hellcrooner » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:55 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Rockets just lost Capela for a month plus. I don't know if they could have anything we realistically want. Last year that Morey tried to swindle Phil out of a 1st for Beverley but, it seems like he's back in their plans again.

The need is there but, I just don't think they have anything I would want outside of picks.


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