2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread III

[NYKHardKnock]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

[Sixerscan]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

Where are we picking, how many picks do we have, and who has already been picked?

[NYKHardKnock]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

Where are we picking, how many picks do we have, and who has already been picked?

Should've been more specific, let's say everything stays put and the 6ers stay at 4. IMO 6ers should take Monk or Tatum especially if Simmons plays PG.

[LloydFree]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

Where are we picking, how many picks do we have, and who has already been picked?

Should've been more specific, let's say everything stays put and the 6ers stay at 4. IMO 6ers should take Monk or Tatum especially if Simmons plays PG.

I'd take Dennis Smith, not knowing the extent of both Simmons and Embiid's injuries. If I'm confident they're over their injuries, I'd go lower usage and take Isaac or Monk.

[Sixerscan]

I would take one of Monk or Tatum or smith or Isaac (or maybe fox or Ntilikina)

No idea what the Sixers would do.

[Unbreakable99]

Sixerswillrule - I was projecting Cov as a 6/7th man in the hopes that with our 2 lottery picks plus $50M cap space we pick up higher ceiling starters at Guards spots and SF

Why are some people so quick to try to put Covington to the bench? Covington is a starter. Only all star caliber swing men might push him to the bench. No rookie is putting him on the bench. If we get Tatum or Jackson they are not better than Covington at this time. They will either start along with him or come off the bench.

[Unbreakable99]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

Where are we picking, how many picks do we have, and who has already been picked?

Should've been more specific, let's say everything stays put and the 6ers stay at 4. IMO 6ers should take Monk or Tatum especially if Simmons plays PG.

I'd take Tatum. Isaac and DSJ are intriguing. I'd probably not take Monk.

[Ericb5]

Where are we picking, how many picks do we have, and who has already been picked?

Should've been more specific, let's say everything stays put and the 6ers stay at 4. IMO 6ers should take Monk or Tatum especially if Simmons plays PG.

I'd take Tatum. Isaac and DSJ are intriguing. I'd probably not take Monk.

If we stayed at 4 I am not sure what I would do.

Monk is a logical choice that fits like a glove, but I think that Smith and Tatum could both have arguably more talent. Isaac is in the mix too.

Assuming everything goes well for him throughout the draft process I might go with Smith.

In reality, I would probably just pray for Jackson to fall to 4, at which point the choice becomes easy.


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[the_process]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

Where are we picking, how many picks do we have, and who has already been picked?

Should've been more specific, let's say everything stays put and the 6ers stay at 4. IMO 6ers should take Monk or Tatum especially if Simmons plays PG.

Assuming Fultz, Ball, and Jackson are off the board?

I'd take Tatum. BC probably takes Monk or Issac.

[Negrodamus]

Many are saying Monk is the obvious fit at 4, but I don't see him more of a fit than Dennis Smith Jr.

[eagereyez]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

Where are we picking, how many picks do we have, and who has already been picked?

Should've been more specific, let's say everything stays put and the 6ers stay at 4. IMO 6ers should take Monk or Tatum especially if Simmons plays PG.

Monk or Isaac. I'd be over the roof if we landed both. Brown has stated that he wants guys who can run, defend, and shoot. Monk/Covington/Simmons/Isaac/Embiid seems to fit those requirements.

[Mik317]

Many are saying Monk is the obvious fit at 4, but I don't see him more of a fit than Dennis Smith Jr.

I don't know about his ability to play off ball. If he can, then yeah his ball handling abilities makes him the better fit. If he can't then his skills will be wasted.

[76ciology]

Push comes to shove who do you guys end up taking?

Top 3? Ball-Fultz-Jackson in that order
Outside top 3? Isaac. If taken, Monk.
If both outside top 3? Isaac and Monk.

We'll leave DeAaron Fox for your team's triangle offense.

[76ciology]

Many are saying Monk is the obvious fit at 4, but I don't see him more of a fit than Dennis Smith Jr.

Shooting and perimeter volume scoring, considering team's make-up.

And if you are really commited at BS at PG. PG value goes down? Maybe..

[sixerswillrule]

Sixerswillrule - I was projecting Cov as a 6/7th man in the hopes that with our 2 lottery picks plus $50M cap space we pick up higher ceiling starters at Guards spots and SF

Covington is probably going to be a perfect fit as a starter for us and is definitely starter-caliber on a playoff team. I don't see us signing a wing good enough to bump him, at least not this summer.

[Kobblehead]

I'd rather have a multi-tool, mid-30% shooter from deep than a guy that shoots 40% and does nothing else.

Ben Simmons is a wizard with the ball, but we shouldn't surround him with guys that can't create or handle the rock. That's too much of a workload on him way too soon.

[Negrodamus]

Many are saying Monk is the obvious fit at 4, but I don't see him more of a fit than Dennis Smith Jr.

I don't know about his ability to play off ball. If he can, then yeah his ball handling abilities makes him the better fit. If he can't then his skills will be wasted.

I think if the Cavs are able to figure it out with LeBron and Kyrie, we'd be able to with Simmons and Smith.

[LloydFree]

Many are saying Monk is the obvious fit at 4, but I don't see him more of a fit than Dennis Smith Jr.

I don't know about his ability to play off ball. If he can, then yeah his ball handling abilities makes him the better fit. If he can't then his skills will be wasted.

I think if the Cavs are able to figure it out with LeBron and Kyrie, we'd be able to with Simmons and Smith.

And the Cavs have been complaining all year they need a 3rd ball handler.

[eagereyez]

Many are saying Monk is the obvious fit at 4, but I don't see him more of a fit than Dennis Smith Jr.

I don't know about his ability to play off ball. If he can, then yeah his ball handling abilities makes him the better fit. If he can't then his skills will be wasted.

I think if the Cavs are able to figure it out with LeBron and Kyrie, we'd be able to with Simmons and Smith.

Lebron's a decent shooter and Kyrie is an amazing shooter. Not a good comparison to make. Wade and Bosh had to sacrifice a lot so Lebron could live in the paint, whereas Kyrie's stats are virtually identical pre and post Lebron. A slasher like DSJ is going to have a reduced effectiveness playing with Ben and Joel. Brown knows this, hence his many quotes about wanting a shooter.

[HotelVitale]

I'd rather have a multi-tool, mid-30% shooter from deep than a guy that shoots 40%.

We wouldn't be having a conversation if that was the debate. Monk shoots 40% from deep, he gets off his shot off screens and over the defense, he's a great athlete who can score from all over the court (great in transition, pull-up/floater game, good off cuts) and he's got a great first step. He also scores in volume and at good efficiency without needing the ball in his hands.

Smith Jr is super strong, has a good handle and nice (sometimes electrifying) hops, he can play pn'r and his shot looks pretty good most of the time. He's got the quicks and the body to get where he wants to in the half court, and I always favor guys like that in the draft. But he also can't do anything without the ball in his hands--can't run off screens, hunt for cuts, play 3D for stretches, etc--and he wasn't particularly good this year at either scoring or distributing or anything really. To me the biggest question for him is: if he's not a great ball-dominant player at the next level, what's his role? (DSJ is also shorter and less long than Monk, and he was arguably the worse defender last season (definitely down the stretch)).

Without taking into account need or a team's timeline and future, I like DSJ more. Hard not to be seduced by some of the physical capabilities he has. But Monk has a lot going for him and I don't see why he can't be a very very good off-ball scorer (not just a spot-up 3pt shooter) at the next level, and he does fit us a whole lot better if everyone's healthy. So it's a tough call.