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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#321 » by SmokeyPaw » Fri May 13, 2022 5:24 pm

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jpatrick wrote:I love his fit next to Ant if the shot comes along. He’s kinda what we hoped Bolmaro would become.

It's funny people are already giving up on him...seems like we'll likely quickly give up on whoever this draft pick will be too if they don't immediately contribute.


I dont mind having them compete for the role - its not necessarily giving up on someone.

I like Dyson alot - high rates of steals, rbs, assists and a plus defender. Is stock has been rising though qnd he's usually being mocked in the lotto.

A similiar prospect is Dalen Terry out of Az. 6'7 point guard with great secondary stats. Very good passer who plays with intensity on defense. Tankathon has him in 2nd round. Having watched him, like him better than that.
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Post#322 » by jpatrick » Fri May 13, 2022 7:12 pm

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jpatrick wrote:I love his fit next to Ant if the shot comes along. He’s kinda what we hoped Bolmaro would become.

It's funny people are already giving up on him...seems like we'll likely quickly give up on whoever this draft pick will be too if they don't immediately contribute.


I watched most of Bolmaro’s games with Barca before he come over. Even there, while he gave them athleticism, he wasn’t trusted and when the team was healthy, saw only sparse minutes down the stretch in the ACB playoffs. And when called into big minutes due to injuries in Euroleague, really was the weak link offensively.

That was a precursor to what we saw with the Wolves. He had so little confidence offensively, he looked uncomfortable every time he touched the ball. I didn’t watch any of his Gleague games. There he put up counting numbers but his efficiency wasn’t all that good for a true NBA player.

I still hope he improves, but much like Culver, when you look that bad as a 21 year old it’s not a good sign. If we could get any value for him in a deal, I’d move him.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#323 » by minimus » Sat May 14, 2022 10:28 am

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Klomp wrote:
jpatrick wrote:I love his fit next to Ant if the shot comes along. He’s kinda what we hoped Bolmaro would become.

It's funny people are already giving up on him...seems like we'll likely quickly give up on whoever this draft pick will be too if they don't immediately contribute.


I watched most of Bolmaro’s games with Barca before he come over. Even there, while he gave them athleticism, he wasn’t trusted and when the team was healthy, saw only sparse minutes down the stretch in the ACB playoffs. And when called into big minutes due to injuries in Euroleague, really was the weak link offensively.

That was a precursor to what we saw with the Wolves. He had so little confidence offensively, he looked uncomfortable every time he touched the ball. I didn’t watch any of his Gleague games. There he put up counting numbers but his efficiency wasn’t all that good for a true NBA player.

I still hope he improves, but much like Culver, when you look that bad as a 21 year old it’s not a good sign. If we could get any value for him in a deal, I’d move him.


Bolmaro looked good in gleague. His basketball IQ seems to be a few levels above of usual gleague rookie. His 3pt shot is not the most beautiful, but seems to work. I would not compare Culver's shot and Bolmaro's. Leandro might have problems adjusting to NBA range, but he has touch.
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Post#324 » by Note30 » Mon May 16, 2022 4:36 am

Any thoughts on Jalen Duren?
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Post#325 » by wolves_89 » Mon May 16, 2022 4:51 am

Note30 wrote:Any thoughts on Jalen Duren?


He'd be a great guy to get, but I don't see any realistic chance he makes it out of the top 13 (with a good chance of going in the top 10). It would probably be too expensive to consider trading up to draft him.
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Post#326 » by minimus » Mon May 16, 2022 8:46 am

We need a switchable wing who can defend on perimeter, rotate and defend the rim. This might organically transform our defense into combination of high wall and switching. Hence, it might gives us more options to defend different teams. It also might reduce workload on Towns and PoA defender in defense.

So give me Sochan, Eason, Liddell.In this case I like our chances in defense if MCD and Vando continues to improve.

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Post#327 » by shangrila » Mon May 16, 2022 10:33 am

Sochan would have been nice but like Eason I don't see him available at 19.
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Post#328 » by moss_is_1 » Mon May 16, 2022 12:20 pm

minimus wrote:We need a switchable wing who can defend on perimeter, rotate and defend the rim. This might organically transform our defense into combination of high wall and switching. Hence, it might gives us more options to defend different teams. It also might reduce workload on Towns and PoA defender in defense.

So give me Sochan, Eason, Liddell.In this case I like our chances in defense if MCD and Vando continues to improve.

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Yeah those 3 are very high up for me, unfortunately I don't see them being there at 19. I'd love if we could use odds and ends like the 2nds, nowell, Reid, bolmaro to move up to secure Sochan.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#329 » by KGdaBom » Mon May 16, 2022 3:22 pm

shangrila wrote:Sochan would have been nice but like Eason I don't see him available at 19.

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Post#330 » by twolves31 » Mon May 16, 2022 4:01 pm

shangrila wrote:Sochan would have been nice but like Eason I don't see him available at 19.


You never know come draft time with bigs. A few bad workouts, poor interviews, hidden injuries, or other red flags drops bigs every draft. I also wouldn't be surprised if we try to move up a few spots using our pick and a 2nd, if there is someone we really want.
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Post#331 » by shangrila » Mon May 16, 2022 8:36 pm

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shangrila wrote:Sochan would have been nice but like Eason I don't see him available at 19.

Put your trust in Tankathon. :D

Never :evil:
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Post#332 » by shangrila » Mon May 16, 2022 8:40 pm

twolves31 wrote:
shangrila wrote:Sochan would have been nice but like Eason I don't see him available at 19.


You never know come draft time with bigs. A few bad workouts, poor interviews, hidden injuries, or other red flags drops bigs every draft. I also wouldn't be surprised if we try to move up a few spots using our pick and a 2nd, if there is someone we really want.

You're right, but if anything that applies to Mark Williams and Jalen Duren more than someone like Sochan. Sochan is a 3/4 long, athletic defensive player with enough on the offensive end to keep him on the court. He's basically the prototype for modern day forwards so I can't imagine him getting out of the lottery unless something drastic happens.
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Post#333 » by Klomp » Tue May 17, 2022 3:03 am

Look at the comp. I'll take another.

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Post#334 » by KGdaBom » Tue May 17, 2022 3:04 am

:lol: :lol:
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KGdaBom wrote:
shangrila wrote:Sochan would have been nice but like Eason I don't see him available at 19.

Put your trust in Tankathon. :D

Never :evil:

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Post#335 » by shrink » Tue May 17, 2022 3:52 am

How far up the draft could we upgrade #19 with a future 1st, Nowell and Naz?

Where would #19 + McDaniels get us?
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Post#336 » by shangrila » Tue May 17, 2022 4:04 am

shrink wrote:How far up the draft could we upgrade #19 with a future 1st, Nowell and Naz?

Where would #19 + McDaniels get us?

I don't know, but there's no one in this draft worth trading McDaniels for.
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Post#337 » by King Malta » Tue May 17, 2022 7:28 am

Klomp wrote:Look at the comp. I'll take another.

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I can see the defensive comparison, and potentially even the handle/vision (Jaden has a sneaky decent handle) but I just don't think Dieng has anywhere near the offensive ability of Jaden, who himself is flawed in that aspect of his game. Dieng has shown flashes but his lack of sustained offensive efficiency is concerning, and I don't like his shot mechanics.

I'd be willing to take a punt on Dieng, but I think he'd be a stash player and he'd be doing very well to end up being the player we project McDaniels to be. If we were to take him I'd think we'd have to be comfortable with the fact that he probably isn't going to be a contributor for at least a season.
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Post#338 » by minimus » Tue May 17, 2022 7:55 am

We should draft this guy as draft and stash prospect. Tough, smart, can play off the ball and defend. Really like his fit here and skillset.

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Post#339 » by shangrila » Tue May 17, 2022 8:59 am

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Klomp wrote:Look at the comp. I'll take another.

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I can see the defensive comparison, and potentially even the handle/vision (Jaden has a sneaky decent handle) but I just don't think Dieng has anywhere near the offensive ability of Jaden, who himself is flawed in that aspect of his game. Dieng has shown flashes but his lack of sustained offensive efficiency is concerning, and I don't like his shot mechanics.

I'd be willing to take a punt on Dieng, but I think he'd be a stash player and he'd be doing very well to end up being the player we project McDaniels to be. If we were to take him I'd think we'd have to be comfortable with the fact that he probably isn't going to be a contributor for at least a season.

Jaden's the better shooter but Dieng is the better playmaker
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#340 » by moss_is_1 » Tue May 17, 2022 2:12 pm

shangrila wrote:
shrink wrote:How far up the draft could we upgrade #19 with a future 1st, Nowell and Naz?

Where would #19 + McDaniels get us?

I don't know, but there's no one in this draft worth trading McDaniels for.

No one? That might be going a bit far.

I think we're in a good spot at 19. There is tiers in this draft for sure.

Banchero - Holmgren - Smith

Ivey - Murray - Sharpe

After that I think there's about ~15 guys who can be interchangeable, then another drop and about 10-15 more who can be good bench-spot starter guys. I'm glad we have so many picks in that range, however I think if we find someone we really love we should use what we can to move up and secure them. For me, I love Sochan and would give up any combo of 19, 40,48,50, Naz, Nowell, Russell, Balmaro, Vando? He could pair with McDaniels as the 3/4's of the future.

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