The Chicago Bulls select Dalen Terry G/F from Arizona #18 overall

[Andi Obst]

Gutsy pick with a few known quantities still on the board.

I dig it.

This is exactly how I feel about it. There was no can’t-miss prospect on the board for me after the Rockets broke my heart, so I’m fine with this. I get the idea.

[Ice Man]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

A wing athlete with a good attitude. Once in a while, those guys blossom offensively, and then you really have something. Maybe this will be the guy. It's been a long time since the Bulls selected a first rounder who exceeded expectations. I would say that since 2011 (Butler), only Bobby Portis fits that description, and even then, he didn't help either the Bulls or the next two teams that had him. So ... it has been a long time.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

Sounds like he's the opposite of Pat in a few ways. Hopefully the front office thinks Terry can push Pat with his aggressiveness and outspoken playing style. Pat needs that more than anything. Otherwise he may watch Terry pass him by.

[kulaz3000]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

This is a silly comment. The Bulls aren’t investing millions dollars on a kid based on personality over basketball skills and talent.

[DuckIII]

You guys think he'll play with the Bulls or be getting lots of time in the G-League to get minutes and get his offensive aggressiveness up?

Given that the FO appears set in the belief that Pat is the 4 (or at least will mostly play 4) we have a need at small forward. If he can help, he’ll play with the big boys right off. Unless we address that further in free agency, which I think would be a mistake.

But lets face it, given our current team, Terry getting an opportunity will be a much longer shot than Ayo had last year.

I don’t agree. When training camp started last year Ayo, as a combo guard, had Lonzo, AC, Coby, Zach and DDR in front of him.

What small forwards are in front of Terry, which is where I project him to play (though he can play the 1 and 2 as well depending on 5 man units)? DDR and no one, except perhaps Lonzo when played out of position.

Now that could change, particularly if AK signs a more traditional 4 and slides a lot of PW’s minutes back to the 3, but that remains to be seen.

As of right now, assuming he’s actually ready to help which is a really big assumption, there is a path for him to get 12-18 minutes pretty early or even more. Much less in his way than Ayo had to deal with.

[Muzbar]

Could they though? And what makes you think they didn't try. This happens every single time the Bulls or Bears take a player even slightly ahead of where they were mocked- the cries come out- "how stupid, we could have traded down and got this guy". As if it was an easy thing to do.

This.

We have no idea if they could have traded down still got Terry, for all we know the team behind us may have had him on their board too, or any team after us we'd trade back past.

We have no idea what types of offers were out there or what other teams are thinking.

Almost up until the Magic picked, everyone though they were going to take Jabari Smith and Banchero was going 3rd, look how that turned out.

We have no idea?

Jeremy Woo
@JeremyWoo
Chicago received a lot of trade interest in the 18th pick, but they're keeping Dalen Terry here, per source.
They didn´t want to trade Terry.

Uhh yeah we have no idea.

All that quote says is that they had lots of alleged interest in the 18th pick, no mention of a trade back or if Terry would still be available if they did trade back.

[DuckIII]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

Sounds like he's the opposite of Pat in a few ways. Hopefully the front office thinks Terry can push Pat with his aggressiveness and outspoken playing style. Pat needs that more than anything. Otherwise he may watch Terry pass him by.

Could happen. But they are very different players. Ultimately I think the idea is that they play together and compliment one another.

[kodo]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

This is a silly comment. The Bulls aren’t investing millions dollars on a kid based on personality over basketball skills and talent.

Then tell Marc Eversley he doesn't know what he's doing. He said that very directly.

[SfBull]

Good point. Tying up money in guys that you have to keep around one way or another who are 50/50 to even be a decent bench piece by the end of the first contract isn't smart when you're trying to contend. If you're rebuilding sure, stockpile these guys, but that's not where Chicago is right now.

The Bulls are years before contention without upgrading 4 and 5 and adding shooters for the bench.

I disagree. We looked like contenders last year until Lonzo went down.

It's doubtful if Lonzo alone could have solved those defensive holes in last regular season games and playoffs.I was hoping that Caruso could help but he couldn't .What happened?We faced better teams or key injured players worsened our defense?
I'm not sure we were contending even if healthy.

[SfBull]

The Bulls are years before contention without upgrading 4 and 5 and adding shooters for the bench.

I disagree. We looked like contenders last year until Lonzo went down.

We were definitely better, but people need to look at context too. The schedule was weak. We played the top teams after the all star break. When we did play top teams with Lonzo, we got buzz sawed.

and Lonzo going down is the theme of Lonzo’s career. If you think we have a contender based on Lonzo’s presence, then we have the prettiest house of cards in the league.

Exactly.

[SfBull]

and Lonzo going down is the theme of Lonzo’s career. If you think we have a contender based on Lonzo’s presence, then we have the prettiest house of cards in the league.

The amount of defensive burden placed on their Lonzo's and Alex's backs, especially after Pat went down, is probably what wore them down so much. Asking two PG-sized players to defend bigs on a regular basis is asking for trouble, which is why I thought not bringing back Stanley Johnson was a questionable decision. He was exactly the kind of big SF the Bulls needed to replace Pat in the PF rotation.

When you ask 2 PG sized players to make the work of your small forward and frontcourt players it's too much for them.
It can work for some time but isn't sustainable when you face strong teams.

[kodo]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

Sounds like he's the opposite of Pat in a few ways. Hopefully the front office thinks Terry can push Pat with his aggressiveness and outspoken playing style. Pat needs that more than anything. Otherwise he may watch Terry pass him by.

Could happen. But they are very different players. Ultimately I think the idea is that they play together and compliment one another.

Agreed, Pat isn't aggressive but he's a fantastic shooter, 41% from 3 over 88 games. It's enough reason to keep him on court even if he's not the defensive stopper originally projected. Eversley himself pointed out shooting is a big weakness of Terry.

If anything, Patrick continuing to shoot the 3 well may have convinced them they can afford to get a forward who isn't talented in that area.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Given that the FO appears set in the belief that Pat is the 4 (or at least will mostly play 4) we have a need at small forward. If he can help, he’ll play with the big boys right off. Unless we address that further in free agency, which I think would be a mistake.

But lets face it, given our current team, Terry getting an opportunity will be a much longer shot than Ayo had last year.

I don’t agree. When training camp started last year Ayo, as a combo guard, had Lonzo, AC, Coby, Zach and DDR in front of him.

What small forwards are in front of Terry, which is where I project him to play (though he can play the 1 and 2 as well depending on 5 man units)? DDR and no one, except perhaps Lonzo when played out of position.

Now that could change, particularly if AK signs a more traditional 4 and slides a lot of PW’s minutes back to the 3, but that remains to be seen.

As of right now, assuming he’s actually ready to help which is a really big assumption, there is a path for him to get 12-18 minutes pretty early or even more. Much less in his way than Ayo had to deal with.

I think and I hope Green will be now primary used as backup SF, not PF anymore.. PWill and Lewis as 3rd string should be playing there alongside new FA or via trade new guy.

[R3AL1TY]

I'm glad the Bulls didn't draft EJ Lidell like many mocks. He looks like a PF that's going to be undersized. I'm surprised he fell that far into the 2nd round, but I guess teams saw a confirmation of a low ceiling in workouts. I would've preferred Branham but I see the higher upside with Terry due to his playmaking/IQ. Seeing his game footage and interviews, Dalen sounds like a very mature and enthusiastic guy. He's going to bring a lot of fun on the court.

[HomoSapien]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

This is a silly comment. The Bulls aren’t investing millions dollars on a kid based on personality over basketball skills and talent.

Yeah, rookies are rarely culture setters on a vet team, especially when they're mid-first round picks. The Bulls drafted him because they believe in his potential.

[Simpleton]

The form on his 3 ball looks to have improved and gotten more consistent as the year went on and mechanically his shot reminds me a decent bit of Mikal Bridges, almost exactly the same size/measurements too.

He's not as good defensively as Bridges was a prospect but he's a much better passer/ball-handler. Their stats from their freshman/sophomore years are almost identical as well and if Terry had went back for his junior year I'm sure he'd have made a similar leap as Bridges did from his sophomore to junior year to average something like 15/6/6 and around 40% from 3 on more volume.

If he had done that he would've been a clear lottery pick and maybe even pushed all the way up to about the 7-8 range.

For those complaining about his lack of statistical production over his first 2 years go check out what Bridges put up as a freshman/sophomore in pretty much the exact same MPG as Terry.

[HomoSapien]

I think some random thoughts:
1: Drafting Dalen Terry doesn't mean anything about the Bulls other moves thoughts. You don't expect guys at #18 to be huge impact players, and you certainly don't expect them to be immediate huge impact players. The Bulls are probably going to lose Coby or Ayo or both and have a coach that definitely wants to play small ball. We'll find room for him.

People keep mentioning how he might be a Coby replacement, but I don't see that at all. Based on how he plays, he seems like he's going to be replacing DJJ/Troy Brown Jr. as our resident 6'7" long-armed versatile wing.

[HomoSapien]

This.

We have no idea if they could have traded down still got Terry, for all we know the team behind us may have had him on their board too, or any team after us we'd trade back past.

We have no idea what types of offers were out there or what other teams are thinking.

Almost up until the Magic picked, everyone though they were going to take Jabari Smith and Banchero was going 3rd, look how that turned out.

We have no idea?

Jeremy Woo
@JeremyWoo
Chicago received a lot of trade interest in the 18th pick, but they're keeping Dalen Terry here, per source.
They didn´t want to trade Terry.

Uhh yeah we have no idea.

All that quote says is that they had lots of alleged interest in the 18th pick, no mention of a trade back or if Terry would still be available if they did trade back.

That Tweet's confusing. Were teams interested in trading for 18 or Terry after we selected him?

[dougthonus]

I think some random thoughts:
1: Drafting Dalen Terry doesn't mean anything about the Bulls other moves thoughts. You don't expect guys at #18 to be huge impact players, and you certainly don't expect them to be immediate huge impact players. The Bulls are probably going to lose Coby or Ayo or both and have a coach that definitely wants to play small ball. We'll find room for him.

People keep mentioning how he might be a Coby replacement, but I don't see that at all. Based on how he plays, he seems like he's going to be replacing DJJ/Troy Brown Jr. as our resident 6'7" long-armed versatile wing.

I generally reject on principle the idea that he replaces anyone, but I agree that his game is not remotely similar to Coby. However, the Bulls could just drop Coby and not replace him with a different Coby-like player.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Sounds like Terry was drafted more for his personality, his approach to the game, and his fit into our culture than his on-court skills.

Sounds like he's the opposite of Pat in a few ways. Hopefully the front office thinks Terry can push Pat with his aggressiveness and outspoken playing style. Pat needs that more than anything. Otherwise he may watch Terry pass him by.

Could happen. But they are very different players. Ultimately I think the idea is that they play together and compliment one another.

Ideally, yes. And I was clamoring for them to be the futures of the 3/4 spot here in Chicago as Demar ages.

But if Pat doesn’t get any of the aggression that Terry is supposed to have, he won’t come close to his ceiling, and may not more than utility player in a couple years.