Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Win the fight? There was no fight... chest bump, shove, sucker punch, over...
Poole has NOTHING to feel ashamed or humiliated about. If anything, he was the bigger man in the situation.
Dray took it way too far. He needs to look in the mirror and acknowledge that.
Seems like he took responsibility and apologized to the whole team. That should be the end of it.
The rest is for the peanut gallery.

Does Poole need to shoot and kill Draymond now so that people won't think Poole is weak? Lettling people think your weak can be life endangering in certain locations but Poole will be living in mansion land the rest of his life (unless he lets the white collar criminals steal his money).

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Klutch needed a day or 2 to find a fall guy.

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[Big J]

Win the fight? There was no fight... chest bump, shove, sucker punch, over...
Poole has NOTHING to feel ashamed or humiliated about. If anything, he was the bigger man in the situation.
Dray took it way too far. He needs to look in the mirror and acknowledge that.
Seems like he took responsibility and apologized to the whole team. That should be the end of it.
The rest is for the peanut gallery.

Does Poole need to shoot and kill Draymond now so that people won't think Poole is weak? Lettling people think your weak can be life endangering in certain locations but Poole will be living in mansion land the rest of his life (unless he lets the white collar criminals steal his money).

Dude it's not just about people thinking that Jordan is weak. It's about Poole having to hear about it everywhere he goes. Friends, family members, along with the general public are going to be bugging him nonstop about it. It's easier said than done to just block that all out.

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[Sleepy51]

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Draymond with Parick Bervery after the punch on the last Draymond Green show. It is a good show. The show barely touches on the Punch of Poole. But Draymond is kind of expressing how he wants Jordan Poole to deal with what happened.

Draymond tells a story of Draymond fouling Patrick Beverly too hard and Praises Patrick Beverly for just shooting the free throws rather than reacting to being fouled too hard.

Draymond tells of an incident in which Rick Mahorn (the baddest of the Bad Boys) clobbered his teammate Dennis Rodman and Dennis Rodman just respected Mahorn more for playing tough and hurting Rodman.

Hey Draymond, shut you f ing mouth ****

[clyde21]

this what happens when u wait too long to trade a player, eventually it'll come a time when you want to trade them, and everyone knows you want to trade them, and they won't give you **** for em.

im not even sure we can get anything for Dray at this point. might even be a neg asset

[sonnyhill]

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[GSWFan1994]

Based on your comment, I'm pretty sure that you've never been sucker punched in the face by anybody. Hopefully Draymond realizes that he's walking a very fine line here. JP could easily end this problem permanently.

As a matter of fact, I was.

It happened while I was in high school, 6th grade. I was around 12/13 years old.

After some class, everybody went out to eat, drink, etc. Time was up, so people were returning to the classroom.

As I returned to the classroom and was sitting in my chair, some guy came directly at me and punched me in the face. People restrained him. He said he did that because I was offending him while passing by outside the classroom.

It was bull from his part. Teachers found out later he was involved with drugs at the time. Probably confused me with someone else.

I never forgot it, obviously.... which isn't the same thing as saying that, if I saw him in the streets right now I'd retaliate.

So I speak from experience, sir: for some things in life, it's better you move on.

So, please avoid your "I'm pretty sure that you've never been sucker punched in the face" rethoric. You don't know absolutely anything about what I've been through in life.

I'm not defending Draymond here, I'm just saying this is an internal matter related to the team and anything anyone says here is conjucture bordering on gossip.

[wco81]

Last year they needed him during the season.

This year, if they traded him, who would take the tough inside defensive assignments?

Who'd contest for the tough rebounds, especially when needed? I believe the Warriors were one of the top offensive rebounding teams last season.

That had to do with Green and Looney but also OPJ at times would snap big rebounds in traffic.

I don't think any of the young players have shown that they could do any of that yet.

[Sleepy51]

With all due respect to childhood traumas, there is something different at play when grown men who can actually do substantial permanent physical damage start exchanging blows.

When you hit things you break them. Permanently. Jordan can endure this new circumstance, but it can't be put back together the way it was before. How would you operate in the presence of someone who has demonstrated that they are willing and able to deprive you of your autonomy, your rights your safety? I'm sorry, I won't do it again doesn't work because Dray was irrational and out of control when he did it this time. You can't promise not to be out of control or irrational again.

Drop Draymond down a **** hole. Trade him to Detroit or Charlotte or something.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

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[marthafokker]

Glad Dray didn't make excuses unlike a lot of professional athletes.

He owned up to it. And hopes he works harder to make himself better for this.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

I would think that most of us were sucker punched at least once if you include junior high school. Even the boys with reputaions as good fighters get sucker punched occasionally by somebody sick of their crap. Mid level fighting boys got succker punched by higher ranked boys trying to keep their place in the pecking order. Low level boys took all kinds of crap. And I went to a "good school". I wondered how much more violent the schools were in "bad towns". At least in my town the violence was pretty much a junior high school thing. We shipped off our trouble makers to the vocational school which allowed my high school to become at bit more like a college atmosphere.

In my nieghborhood I played street hockey with my friends every day. There was a friend of my friends, a tougher kid and good athlete moved in from a tougher town [East Boston] who joined us to play with us one day. Now this tougher kid was lacking street hockey skills. SomI blew past him, made some nice moves and scored. Then I did my imitation of Phil Esposito's goal scoring celebration dance which pissed off tough guy. Tough guy told me that if I get by him again he is going to break my leg with his hockey stick. I got by him again. And true to his word he took a 2 handed swing at my leg with his hockey stick. It hurt, did not break my leg but only because I got lucky. Even though some of my friends, liked him (shared ethnicity) I was not going to play street hockey with tough guy again. We never had as many players as we wanted and my friends realized that sucking up to tough guy who would only play occasionally was not worth losing me as a player. Tough guy stopped getting invitations to play street hockey. Maybe my friends also did not like being on the opposing team as tough guy. Tough guy was not on our level as a street hockey player but I had seen him in other athletic events and he was a very gifted but small athlete. I never held a grudge against tough guy. His mom had committed suicide shortley before he hit my leg with his stick.

I talked to a mutual friend that was in a dope smoking group with tough guy and friend said that tough guy unerved the tough guy dope smoking group because while high a few of them developed fears that tough guy would snap and kill them for no reason. In addition to his mom killing herself East Boston where tough guy had just moved into my soft priviledged town from; East Boston had street violence culture, Italian American gangs vs hispanic gangs, Mafia Killings and locals beating up navy sailors as a sport. I forgave tough guy but I would not play street hockey with him.

But grown men are supposed to behave better. i don't think Walmart is going to keep employees that punch other employees. I don't condone jr high school bullying. Draymond often talks about how tough Saginaw was. I don't think all of Saginaw waa that tough and dangerous; I guess Draymond's block was tough.

[Money_]

Win the fight? There was no fight... chest bump, shove, sucker punch, over...
Poole has NOTHING to feel ashamed or humiliated about. If anything, he was the bigger man in the situation.
Dray took it way too far. He needs to look in the mirror and acknowledge that.
Seems like he took responsibility and apologized to the whole team. That should be the end of it.
The rest is for the peanut gallery.

Does Poole need to shoot and kill Draymond now so that people won't think Poole is weak? Lettling people think your weak can be life endangering in certain locations but Poole will be living in mansion land the rest of his life (unless he lets the white collar criminals steal his money).

Dude it's not just about people thinking that Jordan is weak. It's about Poole having to hear about it everywhere he goes. Friends, family members, along with the general public are going to be bugging him nonstop about it. It's easier said than done to just block that all out.

That might be the case for a few days, maybe a week..
It might be brought up again later if there are tensions during the season within the team, but I suspect it all blows over and no one will be talking about it by the time the season starts.

[Old_Blue]

What I'm going to say here may offend you. Dismiss it as amateur psychology if you want. After sleeping on it, this is what I feel...

Draymond needs mental help, maybe even an intervention. There is a serious disconnect between him being married less than two months ago and him stating that "he was in a bad mental space on Wednesday (the day of the assault) due to some issues in his personal life." He was just married, presumably to a woman he loves. This should be a joyous time in his life. What are the "issues in his personal life" putting him in a "bad mental space." And, it's not just about sucker punching Poole either. Do a simple Google search. Draymond has been acting like an ass hat all off-season. Who knows, maybe Cedric Maxwell triggered something in Draymond back during the Celtics series when, during a back and forth between the two, Cedric said...

“Draymond wasn’t even born when I was playing. Draymond, ask your daddy who I was.”

Draymond, of course, was abandoned by his biological father and had no relationship with the man while growing up. Daddy issues much, Draymond? No idea how to be both a husband and father and now you're being asked to be both? And then there's the fact that every altercation Draymond gets into is invariably with an athlete much younger than himself. Draymond briefly had a stepfather while growing up. Which one was it, Draymond...the belt, the stick or the wrench? Maybe it was just the fist and you're just returning the favor to a younger version of yourself. Whatever the case, the Warriors organization and Warriors fans do not need to enable this kind of behavior. Quite frankly, it has gotten to the point that it is sickening to watch.

Until Draymond takes a long look in the mirror and embraces a sincere change in his life, Jordan Poole and the rest of the young Warriors deserve better than the toxicity surrounding Draymond. Unfortunately, Draymond will likely never take that step, since he's been rewarded too many times for his behavior to think anything other than "I got this."

https://www.thefocus.news/sports/nba/draymond-green-mom-and-dad/

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

What I'm going to say here may offend you. Dismiss it as amateur psychology if you want. After sleeping on it, this is what I feel...

Draymond needs mental help, maybe even an intervention. There is a serious disconnect between him being married less than two months ago and him stating that "he was in a bad mental space on Wednesday (the day of the assault) due to some issues in his personal life." He was just married, presumably to a woman he loves. This should be a joyous time in his life. What are the "issues in his personal life" putting him in a "bad mental space." And, it's not just about sucker punching Poole either. Do a simple Google search. Draymond has been acting like an ass hat all off-season. Who knows, maybe Cedric Maxwell triggered something in Draymond back during the Celtics series when, during a back and forth between the two, Cedric said...

“Draymond wasn’t even born when I was playing. Draymond, ask your daddy who I was.”

Draymond, of course, was abandoned by his biological father and had no relationship with the man while growing up. Daddy issues much, Draymond? No idea how to be both a husband and father and now you're being asked to be both? And then there's the fact that every altercation Draymond gets into is invariably with an athlete much younger than himself. Draymond briefly had a stepfather while growing up. Which one was it, Draymond...the belt, the stick or the wrench? Maybe it was just the fist and you're just returning the favor to a younger version of yourself. Whatever the case, the Warriors organization and Warriors fans do not need to enable this kind of behavior. Quite frankly, it has gotten to the point that it is sickening to watch.

Until Draymond takes a long look in the mirror and embraces a sincere change in his life, Jordan Poole and the rest of the young Warriors deserve better than the toxicity surrounding Draymond. Unfortunately, Draymond will likely never take that step, since he's been rewarded too many times for his behavior to think anything other than "I got this."

https://www.thefocus.news/sports/nba/draymond-green-mom-and-dad/

Cedric Maxwell was right.
Cedric Maxwell was my first favorite basketball player.

The year before Bird arrived the Celtics would have been almost unwatchable had it not been for Cedric Maxwell.

I gave Dennis Johnson a ride. I was gushing stupid young fan gush about how I appreciated the work of the Celtics but I did not specifically praise Dennis Johnson. Later on I thought about what I said to DJ and got worried that he probably thinks I am another racist Bird fan boy when actually I loved Cedric Maxwell and Nate Archibald. Nate was gone by the time DJ arrived. Cedric and Nate both incorporated body contortions into their games. I still like watching guys contort their bodies to get angles to get past defender's hands.

Cedric Maxwell was 1981 finals MVP and if they had a MVP for game 7 of the 1984 finals Cedric would have been game 7 1984 MVP also.

[wco81]

I talked to a mutual friend that was in a dope smoking group with tough guy and friend said that tough guy unerved the tough guy dope smoking group because while high a few of them developed fears that tough guy would snap and kill them for no reason. In addition to his mom killing herself East Boston where tough guy had just moved into my soft priviledged town from; East Boston had street violence culture, Italian American gangs vs hispanic gangs, Mafia Killings and locals beating up navy sailors as a sport. I forgave tough guy but I would not play street hockey with him.

Not a particular fan of Snoop Dogg but he said:

'You can take your boy out the hood but you can't take the hood out the homie'

Draymond has almost $200 million in career earnings. I don't know if he still goes back to Michigan but I've run into plenty of guys from Detroit and Chicago who brag about how hard the men were back there, like they wouldn't give a second's thought before shooting someone.

And these were older guys, not gansta rap fans and wannabes. But when they get into fights, usually it's smaller guys and they hit them and most of the time they're not going to get a response.


You can understand it in people who have little to lose. Like the soccer hooligan culture in the UK, you got guys in their 30s going to matches every week, looking for a reason to brawl. Usually get loaded so it doesn't take much. For instance, if they can't keep the hardcore fans of the two teams separated enough, there are usually fights.


So the mentality for some of these star athletes with a lot of money is that they're keeping it real, somehow being true to the hood, still a badass alpha.

I think Draymond was raised only by his mother? So there could be a factor of overcompensating, not wanting to be seen as soft because he was raised by a woman.

[beavis15205]

Who really cares? This stuff happens all the time, Jordan punched Kerr, and these days nobody knows what goes on in practice because it's closed. In grand scheme of things who cares?

[DevinVassell]

I care beavis.... because context matters.

If two guys want to fight, they can. Have at it. Nobody would care.

But that wasn't a fight. Any fool arguing it obviously has a problem interpreting body language.

Draymond is a bully and he thinks his actions are beyond repute. Seen it many times. Maybe the Warriors sit on their hands again and continue to enable him.