2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 3

[RexBoyWonder]

Maybe they can flip him to Utah for John Collins player option next year. They make the same amount

Just get Fox and it all evens itself out. We have to go harder for Fox than anyone we went in the past to get this done. Wiggins is an amazing fit next to bam Herro and Fox.

I’m a lot more optimistic about Fox in the summer with the Jimmy closure. Good spot in offseason to offer 3-4 picks with possibly JJJ and the expiring's needed to make a solid offer. And yes i would love the Kentucky trio of Bam, Herro, and Fox.

priorities going forward and out from the chit hole :

1) Trade Jimmy for expiring and future assets.
2) Get into the playoffs this year at all cost - so we can pay up the OKC pick.
3) Package our own freed up future picks + Picks obtained in Butler trade to go hard after Fox this summer (I doubt he gets traded before this upcoming trade deadline).

Next year starting 5 :

Fox
Herro
Jamie or Jovic (one might need to be packaged in Fox trade)
Bam
Ware

[MettaWorldPanda]

I need for Keshad Johnson to find his way into some rotation minutes. His energy and “power” at the PF spot last night was infectious.

[iamoti]

Usually i'm against the FO but on this i'm 100% with them. You are getting payed a **** ton of money to play the game, play the **** game and worry about an extension later. He even has a player option. Get that extension by being out there day and night and work for it. I would have suspended hin after the **** show in the Pels game. You miss 2 games for "conditioning" and show up like that? And you want an extension? No one is above the franchise, not even Wade and especially not Jimmy. Thank you for your time. Cya!

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[Flash4thewin]

Just get Fox and it all evens itself out. We have to go harder for Fox than anyone we went in the past to get this done. Wiggins is an amazing fit next to bam Herro and Fox.

I’m a lot more optimistic about Fox in the summer with the Jimmy closure. Good spot in offseason to offer 3-4 picks with possibly JJJ and the expiring's needed to make a solid offer. And yes i would love the Kentucky trio of Bam, Herro, and Fox.

priorities going forward and out from the chit hole :

1) Trade Jimmy for expiring and future assets.
2) Get into the playoffs this year at all cost - so we can pay up the OKC pick.
3) Package our own freed up future picks + Picks obtained in Butler trade to go hard after Fox this summer (I doubt he gets traded before this upcoming trade deadline).

Next year starting 5 :

Fox
Herro
Jamie or Jovic (one might need to be packaged in Fox trade)
Bam
Ware

Not saying a Fox trade would happen but if it did, they will demand Ware, not Jamie or Jovic.

[RexBoyWonder]

I need for Keshad Johnson to find his way into some rotation minutes. His energy and “power” at the PF spot last night was infectious.

I lowkey love our development program and current projects :

Larsson - I think can easily become a good smart 2 way third guard off the bench. Has no real big weakness in his game. Tough and smart.

Keshad - Reminds me of a younger PJ tucker - just a strong MF but with more bounce and hopefully a bit more handling.

Ware - the potential is obvious - he has top 5 draftee level talent for real, and the character "red flags" now seem to have been pure BS. Just need time and reps and he can become special.

[RexBoyWonder]

Usually i'm against the FO but on this i'm 100% with them. You are getting payed a **** ton of money to play the game, play the **** game and worry about an extension later. He even has a player option. Get that extension by being out there day and night and work for it. I would have suspended hin after the **** show in the Pels game. You miss 2 games for "conditioning" and show up like that? And you want an extension? No one is above the franchise, not even Wade and especially not Jimmy. Thank you for your time. Cya!

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It's not about being right, it's about being Smart.

Front office haven't been smart.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Still say keep eye on Spurs. Keldon Johnson would fit in perfectly here. We could really be team KY next year with Fox. Herro gets his pal and Bam gets his with Fox.

[RexBoyWonder]

I’m a lot more optimistic about Fox in the summer with the Jimmy closure. Good spot in offseason to offer 3-4 picks with possibly JJJ and the expiring's needed to make a solid offer. And yes i would love the Kentucky trio of Bam, Herro, and Fox.

priorities going forward and out from the chit hole :

1) Trade Jimmy for expiring and future assets.
2) Get into the playoffs this year at all cost - so we can pay up the OKC pick.
3) Package our own freed up future picks + Picks obtained in Butler trade to go hard after Fox this summer (I doubt he gets traded before this upcoming trade deadline).

Next year starting 5 :

Fox
Herro
Jamie or Jovic (one might need to be packaged in Fox trade)
Bam
Ware

Not saying a Fox trade would happen but if it did, they will demand Ware, not Jamie or Jovic.

We might have 4 picks available to trade. They'll settle for Jamie.

Fox, Unlike Lilard - will be on an expiring contract. Team's won't sell the farm for him unless he agrees to extend in advance. He's also Bam's best friend I hear.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yes we’ve been holding Bam back from shooting it’s time to let the career 24% 3PT shooter EAT FROM DEEP

Using career stats for a guy who just started being allowed to shoot 3s in games is pretty funny. You had a bad take, got called on it, and now your feelings are hurt. He will continue to develop, be the vocal leader of this team (like the staff and players voted for) and climbing up the ranks of all time greatest Heat players and a lot of the clowns on here will continue hating in the meantime. I choose to appreciate our great players in franchise history personally

We should just look at this year where he’s been allowed to shoot. He’s 27% from 3

Right, been an up and down learning experience towards his development. Step 1 was getting the in game reps in, now it’s finding consistency. Started the season 0-9 from 3, then had a 20 game stretch where he shot 38%, now has missed his last 13, at least 5 were grenades thrown to him with 2 seconds on the clock. It was always going to be up and down year 1 but the goal is to get closer to that 20 game stretch. If you eliminate grenades he’s at 33%, that’s a solid base to build on. You can keep hating though, it’s a bad look

[AirP.]

I'd expect no trade with Butler being fined and sent home. If he opts in Miami has ~95 mil of expiring contracts in Butler, Rozier and Robinson next year.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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I would ask Love if he wants to be sent to California with Butler. Feels like the right thing to do

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Barry just BODIED Fat Erny lmao!!!!

[MettaWorldPanda]

Barry took the gloves off with Ernny hahahahaha

[DayofMourning]

I traded Butler 2 years ago for a haul.

At the very latest, a trade should've been made this past summer once they decided not to extend and couldn't reach an agreement.

I'm really starting to question the thinking of the decision makers - they really seem to lack the ability to think ahead and be creative.

This train rack was clear to see miles ahead - yet we drove full speed right into it. baffling.

100% - I don’t believe that the Heat can succeed with the current decision makers in place. People need to go.

This needs to be a wake up call. Butler is a mercenary. The next guy you try to wave your fancy assets at is going to be a merc too most likely. Its gotta be the draft unless everything falls into place (Dragic/Bam in the Finals staying healthy).

[greg4012]

No, I've just been watching Spoelstra putting an undersized center and PF on the court for most of a half-decade which I don't think he's wrong for doing. It's not like we've not heard fans talk about this for years now. I'm not so sure a Riley ran team would be doing that or going with 2 bad defensive guards on the court at the same time.

Spo values skillsets. I don't believe he inherently needs a PF to be undersized to fit his system. I believe he needs to have true 3 pt shooting and spacing from at least 3 players on the floor at all times. And he needs defenders that can switch in space (tho he has turned to more drop coverage--even with Bam--over the past season+). Without Jimmy as a staple in the rotation, the SF spot can potentially be manned by more willing volume 3pt shooting which can alter the composition of skills needed for the PF spot. With that said, Jaime doesn't really fit the mold to add 3pt shooting to the SF spot.

Nobody wants undersized players, the bigger the players with skill the better but Spoelstra's gone with undersized players to get the type of skill he wanted at those positions. My point is that Riley wouldn't have, he'd stay with size and toughness, one person believes in 3s are that important and the other probably doesn't value them as much as defense/rebounding. It's kinda hard to say everyone is on the same page when 2 of the 5 1st round draft picks have been used in the last 5 years were on centers, a position of strength for Miami while there were bigger holes to fill.

I see how you can have that perspective based on projecting those assumptions onto the situation.

I disagree and see it differently. The Heat have been drafting skillsets. The Heat—from Spo to FO to Scouting spoke a lot about Ware’s skillset in how he can fit with Bam and play to a style that they are pursuing. I think there’s more internal alignment between player acquisition, dev program, and coaching than the narrative being pushed.

[heatwillbeback]

I still think a huge mistake was made with the no trade declaration by Riley.

It wasn’t necessary. It wasn’t helpful. Now we have a guy standing in the corner and very publicly not trying. Both Riley and Jimmy are hardheaded.

[heatwillbeback]

Without regards to right and wrong, he needs to be dealt at this point. There is no other choice.

[Kobewade11]

I still think a huge mistake was made with the no trade declaration by Riley.

It wasn’t necessary. It wasn’t helpful. Now we have a guy standing in the corner and very publicly not trying. Both Riley and Jimmy are hardheaded.

I’d argue it wouldn’t make a difference. This was always goings to be Jimmy’s play if/when he wanted out

[oreon]

I still think a huge mistake was made with the no trade declaration by Riley.

It wasn’t necessary. It wasn’t helpful. Now we have a guy standing in the corner and very publicly not trying. Both Riley and Jimmy are hardheaded.

The mistake was not settling this in the offseason. We shouldn't have gone to the season with Butler on year remaining and expected it to go well. They should have sat down with him, his agent, Spo, Riley and Arisons. Heat present their best offer and it wasn't good enough for Butler, Butler would give them a list of teams to trade. This could have been done quietly and behind the scenes.

I don't know what Riley was expecting was going to change once the season began. Jimmy was never getting younger and he was going to miss games. So the reasons for not giving him the max were always going to be there. When you have a star player with a year remaining, you never let it get to the last year without an agreement unless you are a contender

[DayofMourning]

Butler is doing u a solid here Riley.