Thunder Offseason Thread

[Old Man Game]

royce's article is weird. he's taking some slight shots at westbrook. i don't get him. he was on windhorst's pod really playing up the idea that westbrook was using paul george's trade request as a way to get out himself. there's some heart string pulling schlock in the article too but as usual royce has all these opinions after someone is gone.

And what was all that about Russ is a control freak after making the point that Russ didn't lobby George to stay? I didn't follow that at all. He's such a control freak he couldn't stand another player making up his own mind, even though he'd lobbied for him to stay the Summer before?


Not Royce's finest work. I think he may be as shell shocked as anyone.

[Balkman32]

Word is Russ gave a list of teams. Miami was at the top. This does not mean the Thunder must trade him to Miami. Houston is an interesting option. Let’s see who can offer a better deal. Maybe the Thunder make a deal w/ Houston for CP3 then ship him to MIA...

Just sayin...

[Dadouv47]

I don't understand what that top part means. Wasn't as heartbroken as some would have imagined. He's honestly not heartbroken by fact that the entire run is over?

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I believe Ramona Shelburne said something to the effect that Presti was crushed when George had asked for a trade. At one time it was being reported like the front office was devastated but this article makes it seem like they were relieved.

From the town mouthpiece. I think we can conclude then that they were certainly heartbroken and devastated.

I'm heartbroken and relieved at the same time.

We needed to rebuild like this but sure it hurts.

[ThunderBolt]

Is there any way Chris Paul can not become a malcontent here if he stays? Wiggins might be our only shot to dump him without attaching many assets.

[Dadouv47]

I don't like this particular trade but overall Presti made a great job this offseason. We lack one young great prospects to play with SGA but other than that we have so much options/flexibility between our picks, pick swap, clearing cap space etc.

[Balkman32]

royce's article is weird. he's taking some slight shots at westbrook. i don't get him. he was on windhorst's pod really playing up the idea that westbrook was using paul george's trade request as a way to get out himself. there's some heart string pulling schlock in the article too but as usual royce has all these opinions after someone is gone.

And what was all that about Russ is a control freak after making the point that Russ didn't lobby George to stay? I didn't follow that at all. He's such a control freak he couldn't stand another player making up his own mind, even though he'd lobbied for him to stay the Summer before?


Not Royce's finest work. I think he may be as shell shocked as anyone.

I mean I am pretty sure PG13 went to Russ before the organization. What could Russ have said "But, look at all of the shooters we have..." George and Westbrook give the organization the draft and the start of FA to make things happen, they couldn't everyone pivoted and I think Westbrook, George, and the Thunder all ended up in better situations.

[Balkman32]

Is there any way Chris Paul can not become a malcontent here if he stays? Wiggins might be our only shot to dump him without attaching many assets.

I think Minny would take CP3 in a heart beat for Teague and Dieng.

Yes the long term money is an issue. But, getting a star in Minny is hard. I wonder if they would even want another strong personality there after Butler set the locker room on fire.

[Dadouv47]

CP3 + Schroeder is already giving me an headache

[Old Man Game]

Is there any way Chris Paul can not become a malcontent here if he stays? Wiggins might be our only shot to dump him without attaching many assets.

I think he could theoretically. But Presti doesn't play that way. He always try to do right by players and their agents. I can't see him just telling Paul to suck it up and get with the program.

After sleeping on it I think there's a high likelihood that Morey had to include multiple picks and swap rights because they knew we would in turn need to add some pot sweeteners to get another team to take him.

[ThunderBolt]

Woj on espn saying the goal is that cp never wears an OKC uniform and the list of suitors begins and ends with Miami.

[ThunderBolt]

Is there any way Chris Paul can not become a malcontent here if he stays? Wiggins might be our only shot to dump him without attaching many assets.

I think he could theoretically. But Presti doesn't play that way. He always try to do right by players and their agents. I can't see him just telling Paul to suck it up and get with the program.

After sleeping on it I think there's a high likelihood that Morey had to include multiple picks and swap rights because they knew we would in turn need to add some pot sweeteners to get another team to take him.

Which basically means russ is going to be a salary dump with no assets in return.

[Old Man Game]

Is there any way Chris Paul can not become a malcontent here if he stays? Wiggins might be our only shot to dump him without attaching many assets.

I think he could theoretically. But Presti doesn't play that way. He always try to do right by players and their agents. I can't see him just telling Paul to suck it up and get with the program.

After sleeping on it I think there's a high likelihood that Morey had to include multiple picks and swap rights because they knew we would in turn need to add some pot sweeteners to get another team to take him.

Which basically means russ is going to be a salary dump with no assets in return.

Not saying we would have to trade ALL of those assets, but something, maybe one of the picks from the George trade or something. Yes.

[slick_watts]

Is there any way Chris Paul can not become a malcontent here if he stays? Wiggins might be our only shot to dump him without attaching many assets.

I think he could theoretically. But Presti doesn't play that way. He always try to do right by players and their agents. I can't see him just telling Paul to suck it up and get with the program.

After sleeping on it I think there's a high likelihood that Morey had to include multiple picks and swap rights because they knew we would in turn need to add some pot sweeteners to get another team to take him.

Which basically means russ is going to be a salary dump with no assets in return.

which would be incredible.

[ThunderBolt]

I think he could theoretically. But Presti doesn't play that way. He always try to do right by players and their agents. I can't see him just telling Paul to suck it up and get with the program.

After sleeping on it I think there's a high likelihood that Morey had to include multiple picks and swap rights because they knew we would in turn need to add some pot sweeteners to get another team to take him.

Which basically means russ is going to be a salary dump with no assets in return.

Not saying we would have to trade ALL of those assets, but something, maybe one of the picks from the George trade or something. Yes.

If it all goes down in a three team trade then it’s easier to stomach. When you have those assets in your possession and use them to dump Paul it feels like a bit of a loss.

[Old Man Game]

Which basically means russ is going to be a salary dump with no assets in return.

Not saying we would have to trade ALL of those assets, but something, maybe one of the picks from the George trade or something. Yes.

If it all goes down in a three team trade then it’s easier to stomach. When you have those assets in your possession and use them to dump Paul it feels like a bit of a loss.

I understand but don't think about it that way. Morey might have been on a different timeline or had different considerations than we do in terms of moving Paul. Now we can take our time and we owe him nothing more than professional courtesy. It will be a three (or more) team trade in the end.

[ThunderBolt]

Not saying we would have to trade ALL of those assets, but something, maybe one of the picks from the George trade or something. Yes.

If it all goes down in a three team trade then it’s easier to stomach. When you have those assets in your possession and use them to dump Paul it feels like a bit of a loss.

I understand but don't think about it that way. Morey might have been on a different timeline or had different considerations than we do in terms of moving Paul. Now we can take our time and we owe him nothing more than professional courtesy. It will be a three (or more) team trade in the end.

If a team like Miami is willing to trade for Paul for their bad salary and Houston’s picks, why doesn’t it happen in a three wya trade last night? Does Presti believe the demand for CP3 is that high that he can create leverage?

[Dadouv47]

Please Riley give the keys to Wade so he can make a dumb trade like giving us Herro for CP3.

PS : nah just getting rid of CP3 for free is fine

[Dadouv47]

If it all goes down in a three team trade then it’s easier to stomach. When you have those assets in your possession and use them to dump Paul it feels like a bit of a loss.

I understand but don't think about it that way. Morey might have been on a different timeline or had different considerations than we do in terms of moving Paul. Now we can take our time and we owe him nothing more than professional courtesy. It will be a three (or more) team trade in the end.

If a team like Miami is willing to trade for Paul for their bad salary and Houston’s picks, why doesn’t it happen in a three wya trade last night? Does Presti believe the demand for CP3 is that high that he can create leverage?

Really don't get this. OKC has to deal with this messy situation now. Don't like it at all...

[Dadouv47]

I understand but don't think about it that way. Morey might have been on a different timeline or had different considerations than we do in terms of moving Paul. Now we can take our time and we owe him nothing more than professional courtesy. It will be a three (or more) team trade in the end.

If a team like Miami is willing to trade for Paul for their bad salary and Houston’s picks, why doesn’t it happen in a three wya trade last night? Does Presti believe the demand for CP3 is that high that he can create leverage?

Really don't get this. OKC has to deal with this messy situation now. Don't like it at all...

Maybe Morey/Presti believe that OKC has more leverage to get rid of CP3 than Houston, which could be true. Still not going to be easy to trade him.

[ThunderBolt]

Does Royce use dial up Internet in his basement when he broadcasts from his home? The dudes signal is always crap.