Official Draft Thread 2015-16

Edug27 · Post #341 » by **Edug27** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:30 pm

Unless Cousins becomes available anytime soon, which I don't see, its going to have to be through the draft. Of course this stuff is all unpredictable so who knows.

Brooklyn needs to fall into the top 4 of the lottery and we need to hope Jaylen Brown is the next Jimmy Butler ... Simmons is the 6'10 Westbrook .. or Skal is the next Bosh.

gdagod10 · Post #342 » by **gdagod10** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:53 pm

Anyone else falling in love with Jamal Murray? Dude shut down Grayson Allen who has been murdering it right now. Him and Ulis were clearly the two best players on the court that day...and those are two stacked rosters.

Having said that, people need to take a long look at Grayson Allen. He's got a great size for a SG, he handles the ball well, he's got a smooth jumper and he's got hops. I think he's been underrated so far.

lon3lytoaster · Post #343 » by **lon3lytoaster** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:48 pm

At some point we need some better shooters in our lineup but I'm presently drooling over adding Simmons to this core we have. Either at the 3 or 4. I think he could put on another 15 lbs in time.

I don't think he's generational, like LeBron but damn I want him.

shawn unkempt · Post #344 » by **shawn unkempt** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:37 pm

gdagod10 wrote:Anyone else falling in love with Jamal Murray? Dude shut down Grayson Allen who has been murdering it right now. Him and Ulis were clearly the two best players on the court that day...and those are two stacked rosters.

Having said that, people need to take a long look at Grayson Allen. He's got a great size for a SG, he handles the ball well, he's got a smooth jumper and he's got hops. I think he's been underrated so far.

Ehh, he seems like one of those guys you can talk yourself into pre-draft and then he ends up being just another guy in the NBA.

Post #345 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:35 pm

gdagod10 wrote:Anyone else falling in love with Jamal Murray? Dude shut down Grayson Allen who has been murdering it right now. Him and Ulis were clearly the two best players on the court that day...and those are two stacked rosters.

Having said that, people need to take a long look at Grayson Allen. He's got a great size for a SG, he handles the ball well, he's got a smooth jumper and he's got hops. I think he's been underrated so far.

I wouldnt give to much credit to Murray for shutting Grayson down. Briscoe was on him the majority of the time and Grayson was still able to get into the paint a good amount just struggled against the size big time. Murray is weird to me because I cant tell if he can be a star or just a solid player. Hes a great shooter with really good vision, but hes not a good defender and not an elite athlete.

Grayson is not ready for the NBA. He has not yet shown he can score against legit size or shot blockers. He also becomes a little to predictable with his drives as well. Also he handles the ball well but definitely that is still a work in progress. I think he can become a solid 6th man one day maybe

Andrew McCeltic · Post #346 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:21 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/ben-simmons--seven-most-impressive-opening-week-highlights--070817034.html

Some insane plays there..

Given up counting on anything from the draft.. Brooklyn pick could be anywhere from 1 to 7.

The safe strategy is, at least, safe.. Even if we end up trading picks 5, 23, and 27 for Derrick Favors, we'll be a better team.

robbie84 · Post #347 » by **robbie84** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:33 am

Right now I think the only two teams clearly worse than Brooklyn (with Lopez) are the 76ers and Lakers (who are blatantly tanking).
After that it's up in the air. The Pelicans suck, but once they get Holiday, Gordon, Tyreke, Asik and Davis all playing regular minutes they should fall back to pick #8 or #9.

This pick is, to me, basically a lock to be in the top 5. If we are really unlucky on lottery night then #6 might happen.

The Nets are simply awful.

My guys in that #3 to #6 range are

Brown
Ingram
Bender
Murray

at this point.

If there's someone we really like perhaps the 76ers or LA will give us pick #2 for #4+ Dallas pick #10 etc...

Top 4 and we are golden. One of Simmons, Skal,Brown or Ingram will be an enormous acquisition for this franchise.

Post #348 » by **165bows** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:23 pm

Anyone have an opinion on Vince Edwards, Soph SF at Purdue?

Banks2Pierce · Post #349 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:19 pm

Besides Simmons, Bender, and Briscoe, I feel like every player I watch is slated to go about 10-15 slots too high. Not feeling this draft at this point.

Post #350 » by **165bows** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:58 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:Besides Simmons, Bender, and Briscoe, I feel like every player I watch is slated to go about 10-15 slots too high. Not feeling this draft at this point.

Have hardly seen any yet and that's the vibe I'm getting. My guess is it may turn into an upperclassman/intl kind of draft.

shawn unkempt · Post #351 » by **shawn unkempt** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:27 pm

Ingram coming off the bench for Duke now. He's been fairly disappointing so far, huh?

DK-All Day · Post #352 » by **DK-All Day** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:58 pm

robbie84 wrote:Right now I think the only two teams clearly worse than Brooklyn (with Lopez) are the 76ers and Lakers (who are blatantly tanking).
After that it's up in the air. The Pelicans suck, but once they get Holiday, Gordon, Tyreke, Asik and Davis all playing regular minutes they should fall back to pick #8 or #9.

This pick is, to me, basically a lock to be in the top 5. If we are really unlucky on lottery night then #6 might happen.

The Nets are simply awful.

My guys in that #3 to #6 range are

Brown
Ingram
Bender
Murray

at this point.

If there's someone we really like perhaps the 76ers or LA will give us pick #2 for #4+ Dallas pick #10 etc...

Top 4 and we are golden. One of Simmons, Skal,Brown or Ingram will be an enormous acquisition for this franchise.

IMO, LA is better than BRK. They did beat BRK on the road. They still have Russell, Randle, Kobe, and Clarkson. They just have more talent on their roster.

ddb · Post #353 » by **ddb** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:16 pm

This draft will turn into the Simmons draft if it hasn't already. He'll be the consensus #1 pick and it won't even be a toss up.

Then the next tier will be Jaylen Brown, Skal, Bender, Ingram, Rabb, and Zimmerman. I think Zimmerman will shoot up boards once he starts working out. Can't teach his size and athletic make-up. I also think Dunn will be this years smaller school poster child ala Elfrid Payton, Damien Lilliard, McCollum, etc

Post #354 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:18 pm

shawn unkempt wrote:Ingram coming off the bench for Duke now. He's been fairly disappointing so far, huh?

He's been the worst player on Duke so far this year. I think he's coming back to Duke for another year. He's just not ready physically yet. He can't do anything against college players. He wouldn't play a minute in the NBA next year. He would go straight to the D league. He's just not close to being ready

brackdan70 · Post #355 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:57 pm

Jakob Poeltl 30 points, 11 boards, 3 blocks

robbie84 · Post #356 » by **robbie84** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:04 am

DK-All Day wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Right now I think the only two teams clearly worse than Brooklyn (with Lopez) are the 76ers and Lakers (who are blatantly tanking).
After that it's up in the air. The Pelicans suck, but once they get Holiday, Gordon, Tyreke, Asik and Davis all playing regular minutes they should fall back to pick #8 or #9.

This pick is, to me, basically a lock to be in the top 5. If we are really unlucky on lottery night then #6 might happen.

The Nets are simply awful.

My guys in that #3 to #6 range are

Brown
Ingram
Bender
Murray

at this point.

If there's someone we really like perhaps the 76ers or LA will give us pick #2 for #4+ Dallas pick #10 etc...

Top 4 and we are golden. One of Simmons, Skal,Brown or Ingram will be an enormous acquisition for this franchise.

IMO, LA is better than BRK. They did beat BRK on the road. They still have Russell, Randle, Kobe, and Clarkson. They just have more talent on their roster.

I agree they have more talent and should get more wins, even in the West. But they are tanking. Like legitimately trying to lose games and it's coming from the front office. They want Simmons+Russell together in all likelihood.

Murta · Post #357 » by **Murta** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:54 am

165bows wrote:
Banks2Pierce wrote:Besides Simmons, Bender, and Briscoe, I feel like every player I watch is slated to go about 10-15 slots too high. Not feeling this draft at this point.

Have hardly seen any yet and that's the vibe I'm getting. My guess is it may turn into an upperclassman/intl kind of draft.

+1. Hate to say it, but unless we get a chance to draft Simmons or Bender, the value of the pick does not look particularly high right now.
The international crop is not exactly deep, after Bender there are Korkmaz (young, good shooter with size, but with average body frame and ball handling, kinda like Jeremy Lamb type of prospect), Luwawu (turning heads right now, athletic with skill, could end up top 8, reminds me of Bradley Beal lite) and after them I see mostly early 2nd round guys who would be overdrafted in the 1st. An interesting and real NBA talent is Ivica Zubac (very similar to Poetl) but he's currently injured until early-mid December and both Draftexpress and NBADraft.net have him in 2017.

No-Man · Post #358 » by **No-Man** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:41 pm

Hate to say it, but it is looking fairly weak so far.

ddb · Post #359 » by **ddb** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:58 pm

Fischella wrote:Hate to say it, but it is looking fairly weak so far.

all we need is that Top pick! Simmons all the way. Franchise changing type of player. outside of Simmons, I agree....underwhelming. Although I like Brown & Rabb from Cal.

DK-All Day · Post #360 » by **DK-All Day** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:25 am

If this boy ever gets a jumpshot....