Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[blueNorange]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.

although forest gump is a great burn to call someone and i'm sad i didn't think of it first.

[HarthorneWingo]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.

I have no problems with bNo. He's our resident cranky poster. But he has a good heart.

See that bNo? Who's loves ya brother?

[3toheadmelo]

listen i know a lot of us don't like rose but I personally don't think there was any better option for us. Conley and Lin as long term options would've been terrible and so far they've been injury prone. I would only keep rose if we reach the ecf. If he makes the team better then why not? It's too early for this extension discussion imo so I don't think we should all be in panic mode yet

[blueNorange]

listen i know a lot of us don't like rose but I personally don't think there was any better option for us. Conley and Lin as long term options would've been terrible and so far they've been injury prone. I would only keep rose if we reach the ecf. If he makes the team better then why not? It's too early for this extension discussion imo so I don't think we should all be in panic mode yet

but he doesn't make the team better, that's the thing.

[HEZI]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

huh? you showed me the facts, and the facts show that rolo is rated higher than rose in rpm.

what exactly am i running from?

We weren't even talking about Rose or Rolo in the previous comment but yet you decided to go there again

It's cool man get your troll on it's entertaining

[3toheadmelo]

listen i know a lot of us don't like rose but I personally don't think there was any better option for us. Conley and Lin as long term options would've been terrible and so far they've been injury prone. I would only keep rose if we reach the ecf. If he makes the team better then why not? It's too early for this extension discussion imo so I don't think we should all be in panic mode yet

but he doesn't make the team better, that's the thing.

as of now that's correct but if we make the ecf..(yea ik it's a long shot) u might have to reconsider that statement

[HEZI]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.

I don't attack him on a personal level, we attack each others opinions

bno is cool with me we just like to go back and forth and debate

I don't treat him any different than my buddies that I hang out with who aren't Knicks fans. We go out and get coffee and hang out but they still love to get on my nerves when it comes to basketball talk and I love to get on their nerves. They talk trash and I talk trash but there is still a mutual respect and a bond

[CJackson]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.

I don't attack him on a personal level, we attack each others opinions

bno is cool with me we just like to go back and forth and debate

I don't treat him any different than my buddies that I hang out with who aren't Knicks fans. We go out and get coffee and hang out but they still love to get on my nerves when it comes to basketball talk and I love to get on their nerves. They talk trash and I talk trash but there is still a mutual respect and a bond

IMO, this is the only thing necessary to maintain civility:

If bNo asks you to not address him a manner that HE PERCEIVES to be attacking, then the courteous thing to do is modify how you address them.

I have seen them to be pretty accurate about what constitutes a personal attack. Therefore, I would expect if they feel the need to identify that then it is probably true enough to take them at their word.

Not much would need to be said about it in the future if those guidelines were observed as long as they themselves don't personally attack other posters

And I don't think it is fair in principle that any mod singles out bNo in an abusive manner. It violates the principle of tolerance since bNo is only provocative on the level of opinion, not in terms of personal address.

[HEZI]

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.

I don't attack him on a personal level, we attack each others opinions

bno is cool with me we just like to go back and forth and debate

I don't treat him any different than my buddies that I hang out with who aren't Knicks fans. We go out and get coffee and hang out but they still love to get on my nerves when it comes to basketball talk and I love to get on their nerves. They talk trash and I talk trash but there is still a mutual respect and a bond

IMO, this is the only thing necessary to maintain civility:

If bNo asks you to not address him a manner that HE PERCEIVES to be attacking, then the courteous thing to do is modify how you address them.

I have seen them to be pretty accurate about what constitutes a personal attack. Therefore, I would expect if they feel the need to identify that then it is probably true enough to take them at their word.

Not much would need to be said about it in the future if those guidelines were observed as long as they themselves don't personally attack other posters

And I don't think it is fair in principle that any mod singles out bNo in an abusive manner. It violates the principle of tolerance since bNo is only provocative on the level of opinion, not in terms of personal address.

What are you even talking about

bno knows exactly what he's doing when he quotes me and others and says the things he says, he loves to bait people and even personally admitted that he loves getting a reaction out of people, those are his own words

Quit trying to paint him as some victim of violent hate when he brings a lot of that on himself and gets pleasure out of it

[CJackson]

I don't attack him on a personal level, we attack each others opinions

bno is cool with me we just like to go back and forth and debate

I don't treat him any different than my buddies that I hang out with who aren't Knicks fans. We go out and get coffee and hang out but they still love to get on my nerves when it comes to basketball talk and I love to get on their nerves. They talk trash and I talk trash but there is still a mutual respect and a bond

IMO, this is the only thing necessary to maintain civility:

If bNo asks you to not address him a manner that HE PERCEIVES to be attacking, then the courteous thing to do is modify how you address them.

I have seen them to be pretty accurate about what constitutes a personal attack. Therefore, I would expect if they feel the need to identify that then it is probably true enough to take them at their word.

Not much would need to be said about it in the future if those guidelines were observed as long as they themselves don't personally attack other posters

And I don't think it is fair in principle that any mod singles out bNo in an abusive manner. It violates the principle of tolerance since bNo is only provocative on the level of opinion, not in terms of personal address.

What are you even talking about

bno knows exactly what he's doing when he quotes me and others and says the things he says, he loves to bait people and even personally admitted that he loves getting a reaction out of people, those are his own words

Quit trying to paint him as some victim of violent hate when he brings a lot of that on himself and gets pleasure out of it

Posting with a provocative POV is not the same as baiting people on a personal level.

It is not a difficult distinction to make.

[HEZI]

IMO, this is the only thing necessary to maintain civility:

If bNo asks you to not address him a manner that HE PERCEIVES to be attacking, then the courteous thing to do is modify how you address them.

I have seen them to be pretty accurate about what constitutes a personal attack. Therefore, I would expect if they feel the need to identify that then it is probably true enough to take them at their word.

Not much would need to be said about it in the future if those guidelines were observed as long as they themselves don't personally attack other posters

And I don't think it is fair in principle that any mod singles out bNo in an abusive manner. It violates the principle of tolerance since bNo is only provocative on the level of opinion, not in terms of personal address.

What are you even talking about

bno knows exactly what he's doing when he quotes me and others and says the things he says, he loves to bait people and even personally admitted that he loves getting a reaction out of people, those are his own words

Quit trying to paint him as some victim of violent hate when he brings a lot of that on himself and gets pleasure out of it

Posting with a provocative POV is not the same as baiting people on a personal level.

It is not a difficult distinction to make.

he does both

he even told you

although forest gump is a great burn to call someone and i'm sad i didn't think of it first.

Don't turn this into a politics thread just because you are itching to discuss such topics

[NYKMentality85]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.

Yea. Right. He'll attack any N.Y fan who has something to be excited/positive about. I took my time and used thought process while creating a thread titled 'Chemestry. Cohesion. Trust. Familiarity and Continuity'. What did bNo immidetialy do? Troll. On the 1st page of that thread he called me out as being "the biggest troll on this forum". He made up lies and falsely accused me of being a former poster called "BernardKing" despite the fact i never had a chance to see King play (live) considering the fact i was only born in 1985.

Which was all funny to me considering I've never once seen bNo create an N.Y Knicks thread (around here) consisting of insightful Knicks discussion. With a thought process. After every Knicks win he'll mock either Rose or Jennings; it's a disgusting trend.

To each our own. He has every right to hate some of these players but lets not act as if he's someone who doesn't attack opposing posters who disagree with his point of view; because he does.

With that said and to get back on topic giving Rose a long term contract could be risky business. But then again so could signing CP3 at the age of 32 come the offseason. Now if Rose continues to improve his overall efficiency, then a 2 (possibly 3) year contract extension wouldn't be bad. Especially if we're able to bring back Jennings and draft a PG to develop under. One thing I'm enjoying about Rose is his ability to drive and attack a defense. The threat of Rose attacking the basket may not show up on the box score but it's taking a tremendous amount of pressure off of both Anthony & Porzingis. It's also a great sign he's played in every game, logging big minutes and without question has regained his previous athleticism and explosion. Imo once Rose becomes confident in our system and begins to gel/mesh with his teammate he'll then become a truly dynamic weapon alongside of Anthony & Porzingis.

[CJackson]

What are you even talking about

bno knows exactly what he's doing when he quotes me and others and says the things he says, he loves to bait people and even personally admitted that he loves getting a reaction out of people, those are his own words

Quit trying to paint him as some victim of violent hate when he brings a lot of that on himself and gets pleasure out of it

Posting with a provocative POV is not the same as baiting people on a personal level.

It is not a difficult distinction to make.

he does both

he even told you

although forest gump is a great burn to call someone and i'm sad i didn't think of it first.

Don't turn this into a politics thread just because you are itching to discuss such topics

That is a peculiar thought. Not even close to what I was doing or what I was advocating for. I wasn't debating you.

If you have no use for my suggestions, then so be it.

[kane2021]

I remember this forum ripping rose on the regular when he was actually good. And dogging him out for not coming back fast enough. Then calling him finished and washed up when he finally did. I can't be upset with someone who still feels that way. That's a person staying true to themselves. Honestly only one thing has changed from then till now. The uniform. So if anything the "agenda" is flip flopping due to that change. To argue with people who remain true to their beliefs.


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[CJackson]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.

Yea. Right. He'll attack any N.Y fan who has something to be excited/positive about. I took my time and used thought process while creating a thread titled 'Chemestry. Cohesion. Trust. Familiarity and Continuity'. What did bNo immidetialy do? Troll. On the 1st page of that thread he called me out as being "the biggest troll on this forum". He made up lies and falsely accused me of being a former poster called "BernardKing" despite the fact i never had a chance to see King play (live) considering the fact i was only born in 1985.

Which was all funny to me considering I've never once seen bNo create an N.Y Knicks thread (around here) consisting of insightful Knicks discussion. With a thought process. After every Knicks win he'll mock either Rose or Jennings; it's a disgusting trend.

To each our own. He has every right to hate some of these players but lets not act as if he's someone who doesn't attack opposing posters who disagree with his point of view; because he does.

With that said and to get back on topic giving Rose a long term contract could be risky business. But then again so could signing CP3 at the age of 32 come the offseason. Now if Rose continues to improve his overall efficiency, then a 2 (possibly 3) year contract extension wouldn't be bad. Especially if we're able to bring back Jennings and draft a PG to develop under. One thing I'm enjoying about Rose is his ability to drive and attack a defense. The threat of Rose attacking the basket may not show up on the box score but it's taking a tremendous amount of pressure off of both Anthony & Porzingis. It's also a great sign he's played in every game, logging big minutes and without question has regained his previous athleticism and explosion. Imo once Rose becomes confident in our system and begins to gel/mesh with his teammate he'll then become a truly dynamic weapon alongside of Anthony & Porzingis.

You may not fully understand my point because I'm not defending their POV, merely their right to have it.

I did not say they are mature about everything. bNo is often extremely lazy in their logic because they'll run with a single point and beat it to death. Maybe I missed it, but I don't know if they've given Jennings any credit for being the superior PG even though I know he dislikes both him and Rose.

but in the end they are not calling people dikheads or losers. He is a thorn in your side, but as long as he abides by the principle of not calling people names then I suggest letting it ride.

heck, I still have bNo on ignore to skip most of their posts. I only read about 25% of their posts now and I do respond to them, but it makes my life simpler. I do think they can up the quality of their posts so it is not like I don't understand why people get frustrated with them, but on principle I'll defend their right to post

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I don't care if Rose improves his efficiency, because I don't like the way he plays. There is only so much you are going to be able to tweak this guys core impulses.

No problem with him being our one year rental, but I shudder to think of him as what we settle on as our PG solution. We can do much better

The guy simply is not a PG

[HEZI]

Posting with a provocative POV is not the same as baiting people on a personal level.

It is not a difficult distinction to make.

he does both

he even told you

although forest gump is a great burn to call someone and i'm sad i didn't think of it first.

Don't turn this into a politics thread just because you are itching to discuss such topics

That is a peculiar thought. Not even close to what I was doing or what I was advocating for. I wasn't debating you.

If you have no use for my suggestions, then so be it.

Your suggestion comes as a result of you assuming I was doing something out of line when I wasn't but what makes it even worse is that you are coming to the defense of someone who is notorious for the very same thing you accuse me of doing and painting him out to be some victim.

[NYKMentality85]

Rose with improved efficiency can become a nightmare for opposing defenses. He is a PG; an attacking/scoring PG. Come postseason play a scoring trio of Rose, Anthony & Porzingis can evolve into becoming a down right nightmare.

[CJackson]

he does both

he even told you




Don't turn this into a politics thread just because you are itching to discuss such topics

That is a peculiar thought. Not even close to what I was doing or what I was advocating for. I wasn't debating you.

If you have no use for my suggestions, then so be it.

Your suggestion comes as a result of you assuming I was doing something out of line when I wasn't but what makes it even worse is that you are coming to the defense of someone who is notorious for the very same thing you accuse me of doing and painting him out to be some victim.

Let's just pull it back then. I wasn't zoning in on you and I apologize for any misunderstanding about that because frankly I could have responded to others as well to make the same point.

It would have been more appropriate to post it as a stand-alone post without responding to any single poster because it was meant for the board as a whole and I did not mean to single you out.

[CJackson]

Rose with improved efficiency can become a nightmare for opposing defenses. He is a PG; an attacking/scoring PG. Come postseason play a scoring trio of Rose, Anthony & Porzingis can evolve into becoming a down right nightmare.

That's where some will never agree with you, because to myself and others Rose is an attacking SG who sometimes passes, but overall he does not make others around him better.

I do acknowledge I'm enjoying having somebody who can penetrate after suffering with Jose, but Rose is often without any purpose in his moves and is usually not a strategic player who tries to instigate a chain of reactions with his aggression. He is merely aggressive for aggression's sake because that is what he learned how to do with his athleticism and he is not going to be smart enough to learn how to evolve his game in any meaningful way.

Additionally, he does not project to be a good match with Melo over several years. KP clearly has to be the # 1 option now, but when you have both Rose & Melo on the floor they are used to thinking they are. All three together is not even good basketball most of the time.

You call Rose a PG. I disagree. He's a scorer who sometimes passes and not much else on the offensive end.

[HEZI]

That is a peculiar thought. Not even close to what I was doing or what I was advocating for. I wasn't debating you.

If you have no use for my suggestions, then so be it.

Your suggestion comes as a result of you assuming I was doing something out of line when I wasn't but what makes it even worse is that you are coming to the defense of someone who is notorious for the very same thing you accuse me of doing and painting him out to be some victim.

Let's just pull it back then. I wasn't zoning in on you and I apologize for any misunderstanding about that because frankly I could have responded to others as well to make the same point.

It would have been more appropriate to post it as a stand-alone post without responding to any single poster because it was meant for the board as a whole and I did not mean to single you out.

It's all good bro I understand what your intention was

I think I've been called an idiot by guys like Wolfgang and Whocares in the last couple of weeks more than bno has in his entire time on realgm but I don't trip off of it. You are right though, we have to change the tone of the way we communicate with each other and have some respect for difference in opinion and do a better job of carrying dialogue without being verbally abusive