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Post#341 » by Wizardspride » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:44 am

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Post#342 » by Ruzious » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:22 am

Gotta say - when the Skins signed up Mayhew, the first thing that came to mind was trading for Stafford. It does make some sense. But they should not trade their FRP for him. I wouldn't offer any more than Jonathan Allen for him. They'd actually save money by trading Allen's 10.5 million and not keeping Alex.

If the WFT's trade for Stafford, his cap hit to them would be 20 mil in 2021 and 23 mil in 2022.

Durability stat: Stafford's played all 16 games in 9 of the last 10 seasons. But he's only played 3 playoff games.
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Post#343 » by LyricalRico » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:25 pm

Everyone's been debating Matthew Stafford...but what if Aaron Rodgers wants out of Green Bay? :o
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Post#344 » by Ruzious » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:04 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Everyone's been debating Matthew Stafford...but what if Aaron Rodgers wants out of Green Bay? :o

Nah, he choked on that 3rd & 8 pass when he could have run it in - he wasn't willing to take a hit. We don't need no stinking choker like Rodgers.

Is he really possibly available?
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Post#345 » by LyricalRico » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:35 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:Everyone's been debating Matthew Stafford...but what if Aaron Rodgers wants out of Green Bay? :o

Nah, he choked on that 3rd & 8 pass when he could have run it in - he wasn't willing to take a hit. We don't need no stinking choker like Rodgers.

Is he really possibly available?


:lol: (but yeah, he absolutely should have run that)

I haven't seen anything specifically stating that, but IIRC he's essentially always had some sort of beef with LaFleur and yesterday couldn't have helped. Plus didn't Green Bay trade up to take a QB recently? It'll be interesting to see what happens there.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#348 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:43 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Everyone's been debating Matthew Stafford...but what if Aaron Rodgers wants out of Green Bay? :o


I took my shot. Sent a tweet out that Rodgers probably will not see. He’s got 4 million followers.

I think my tweet at least was persuasive—I mentioned WFT’s diversity and his coming to Washington at a time the nation needs healing; and, how he can be a positive voice while changing his brand. Oh, and that he can easily win a Super Bowl because the WFT has a great defense.

If he reads it I’m positive he will know it’s on point. I think he’s perhaps eyeing politics or public service. I intentionally mentioned diversity for a reason, too.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#350 » by Ruzious » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:05 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:Everyone's been debating Matthew Stafford...but what if Aaron Rodgers wants out of Green Bay? :o

Nah, he choked on that 3rd & 8 pass when he could have run it in - he wasn't willing to take a hit. We don't need no stinking choker like Rodgers.

Is he really possibly available?


:lol: (but yeah, he absolutely should have run that)

I haven't seen anything specifically stating that, but IIRC he's essentially always had some sort of beef with LaFleur and yesterday couldn't have helped. Plus didn't Green Bay trade up to take a QB recently? It'll be interesting to see what happens there.

And the question will always remain - Why did Green Bay go for the FG when they were 8 points down and just over 2 minutes left? 4th and goal at the 8 with a great offense? It wouldn't have even crossed my mind to kick a FG, but they did. I wonder if Rodgers is the kind of guy who can't forgive that decision?
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#351 » by queridiculo » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:47 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:Everyone's been debating Matthew Stafford...but what if Aaron Rodgers wants out of Green Bay? :o

Nah, he choked on that 3rd & 8 pass when he could have run it in - he wasn't willing to take a hit. We don't need no stinking choker like Rodgers.

Is he really possibly available?


:lol: (but yeah, he absolutely should have run that)

I haven't seen anything specifically stating that, but IIRC he's essentially always had some sort of beef with LaFleur and yesterday couldn't have helped. Plus didn't Green Bay trade up to take a QB recently? It'll be interesting to see what happens there.


I mean, I doubt he would have made it in, but at least it would have put them into a more manageable 4th down distance.

The ultimate stupidity in my book was the FGA in an 8 point game. What in the actual **** was that?

There would have been a completely different type of pressure on the Bucs to run out the clock inside their own 5 even if you don't convert.

Rodgers plans to play well into his 40s and the Packers spent a first rounder on a prospect last year.

Somethings gotta give.

I'd absolutely part with a 1st rounder to add Rogers, but perhaps there's some players along the line we should consider packaging. Washington won't be able to pay all of those 1st rounders playing on that line anyway.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#352 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:59 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Nah, he choked on that 3rd & 8 pass when he could have run it in - he wasn't willing to take a hit. We don't need no stinking choker like Rodgers.

Is he really possibly available?


:lol: (but yeah, he absolutely should have run that)

I haven't seen anything specifically stating that, but IIRC he's essentially always had some sort of beef with LaFleur and yesterday couldn't have helped. Plus didn't Green Bay trade up to take a QB recently? It'll be interesting to see what happens there.


I mean, I doubt he would have made it in, but at least it would have put them into a more manageable 4th down distance.

The ultimate stupidity in my book was the FGA in an 8 point game. What in the actual **** was that?

There would have been a completely different type of pressure on the Bucs to run out the clock inside their own 5 even if you don't convert.

Rodgers plans to play well into his 40s and the Packers spent a first rounder on a prospect last year.

Somethings gotta give.

I'd absolutely part with a 1st rounder to add Rogers, but perhaps there's some players along the line we should consider packaging. Washington won't be able to pay all of those 1st rounders playing on that line anyway.


Yeah, that's the thing I left out - Even if the Packers went for it on 4th down and failed, it would have put them in better position to win the game than kicking that FG. Such a bad decision.

Heck yes, I'd trade for Rodgers - one of the few best of all time and still perfectly fine physically.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#353 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:50 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-packers-near-divorce-why-coaches-execs-are-sure-another-all-time-great-qb-will-exit-green-bay/
Sounds like there's a legit chance they'll trade him. And looking at his contract, he's got an opt-out clause after next season, so - they've got the kind of situation the Wiz have with Beal. They likely lose him for nothing if they don't trade him. Not to mention, they already drafted his replacement in the 1st round last draft.

I don't think getting Watson or Stafford make us SB contenders, but Rodgers could - especially if we add a top free agent WR this offseason.
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Post#354 » by pancakes3 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:33 pm

Watson probably increases our EV of a championship more than Rodgers just due to years left in each player's respective career but Rodgers is def much much better.

Plus, bringing a lombardi to DC boosts his resume a lot more than another lombardi to lambeau.

More than what Snyder deserves though. I'm ok with us going winless until Snyder sells.
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Post#355 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:43 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Watson probably increases our EV of a championship more than Rodgers just due to years left in each player's respective career but Rodgers is def much much better.

Plus, bringing a lombardi to DC boosts his resume a lot more than another lombardi to lambeau.

More than what Snyder deserves though. I'm ok with us going winless until Snyder sells.

Crazy as it sounds, Rodgers just had the highest QBR of his career at age 37. He's mastered the art of not getting hit hard and was only sacked 20 times during the regular season.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#356 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:22 pm

The question begs what domino will fall first . If mat stafford gets a first rodgers value goes up if rodgers goes for say a first. Stafford ain't getting a first.

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Post#357 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:21 pm

gambitx777 wrote:The question begs what domino will fall first . If mat stafford gets a first rodgers value goes up if rodgers goes for say a first. Stafford ain't getting a first.

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Skins history is they go first and overpay. They should let someone else set the market - unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

Interesting that SF is in the mix to acquire a veteran QB like Stafford. If they've given up on Garafalo (a year after going to the SB), should we be interested in trading for him? Maybe give up our later 3rd rounder for him?
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Post#358 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:25 pm

I wouldn't be too upset with that. Honestly like you said let the market get set first. Cuz something has to give. And if you end up having to pay a premium sure but if you don't, don't.
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Skins history is they go first and overpay. They should let someone else set the market - unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

Interesting that SF is in the mix to acquire a veteran QB like Stafford. If they've given up on Garafalo (a year after going to the SB), should we be interested in trading for him?


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Post#359 » by Benjammin » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:49 pm

Ruzious wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-packers-near-divorce-why-coaches-execs-are-sure-another-all-time-great-qb-will-exit-green-bay/
Sounds like there's a legit chance they'll trade him. And looking at his contract, he's got an opt-out clause after next season, so - they've got the kind of situation the Wiz have with Beal. They likely lose him for nothing if they don't trade him. Not to mention, they already drafted his replacement in the 1st round last draft.

I don't think getting Watson or Stafford make us SB contenders, but Rodgers could - especially if we add a top free agent WR this offseason.
That's not his leverage, FA. They could franchise him. His leverage is threatening to retire and they get nothing for him. So it's a game of chicken at that point.

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Post#360 » by Wizardspride » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:13 pm

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