Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps

[Duke4life831]

Bledsoe is the odd fit, terrible shooter that can't be the playmaker. Lonzo played better without Jrue now I imagine he will do the same without Bledsoe

Ya I will be kind of shocked if Bledsoe is there come the start of the season. Bledsoe is the odd fit, with Jrue gone, its time to officially hand the keys to the young trio. The other guard spot needs to go to a sharp shooting guard.

Figure that Stan will boost the role of his favorite shooter JJ.

With Bledsoe you have to find a team willing to take him. I’m sure the Bucks tried to do their due diligence with trades. The Pelicans likely won’t ask for much to unload his deal but who needs a PG like Bledsoe that bad?

I think JJ is closer to that sharpshooter coming off the bench, then the guy you want out there 28-30 minutes every night. If Im the Pels, Im on the phone with the Pistons and seeing what they want for Luke Kennard.

When it comes to Bledsoe, ya I dont think the Pels will ask for much in return, I can see them looking just for like an older veteran wing or something. His contract isnt that bad since he is only making 17 this year and 18 next year (not an ungodly amount) and that 3rd year isnt guaranteed. He is still a solid player so Im sure they could move him. But ya I wouldnt expect too much in return.

[poultryfan]

Obviously a huge win for the Pelicans. They got a ton of value for a player that doesn't fit in their long term plan.

In a vacuum I think it's a bad-ish trade for the Bucks. But combined with the trade for Bogdan and the fact that Giannis might stay if they field enough talent around him, it's probably a decent deal. Their hand is kind of forced at this point since it's finals/very competitive ECF or bust for them.

[Duke4life831]

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And this is why I laugh when players like Marbury think since they played the game they automatically have a better knowledge of the game.

[Duke4life831]

Obviously a huge win for the Pelicans. They got a ton of value for a player that doesn't fit in their long term plan.

In a vacuum I think it's a bad-ish trade for the Bucks. But combined with the trade for Bogdan and the fact that Giannis might stay if they field enough talent around him, it's probably a decent deal. Their hand is kind of forced at this point since it's finals/very competitive ECF or bust for them.

Not really. Giannis is going to resign, which means they got a lot of change spread out over 6 years in return for Holiday. But no big trade value in return though.

[sfernald]

Damn, what a deal. I'm hearing that Griff get's Horst's wife every other Saturday too..

[Riko]

Massive massive overpay. Yes, they dropped bledose but there are at least 3 picks more than his value.

[DoubleLintendre]

Bad deal by itself for Bucks. Good deal when Bogie trade is factored in. Bucks kept their most important pieces and somehow added 2 more starters.

[Raps in 4]

I'm going to feel bad for Milwaukee if Giannis doesn't re-sign.

[poultryfan]

Obviously a huge win for the Pelicans. They got a ton of value for a player that doesn't fit in their long term plan.

In a vacuum I think it's a bad-ish trade for the Bucks. But combined with the trade for Bogdan and the fact that Giannis might stay if they field enough talent around him, it's probably a decent deal. Their hand is kind of forced at this point since it's finals/very competitive ECF or bust for them.

Not really. Giannis is going to resign, which means they got a lot of change spread out over 6 years in return for Holiday. But no big trade value in return though.

Even with the rumors that he was going to resign, there's no guarantee that he wouldn't force himself out at some point if they don't field enough talent around him in adequate time. It's certainly not a 6 year timeframe.

[timO]

5 picks for Jrue wtf?

How many for Harden? 10?

[Duke4life831]

Obviously a huge win for the Pelicans. They got a ton of value for a player that doesn't fit in their long term plan.

In a vacuum I think it's a bad-ish trade for the Bucks. But combined with the trade for Bogdan and the fact that Giannis might stay if they field enough talent around him, it's probably a decent deal. Their hand is kind of forced at this point since it's finals/very competitive ECF or bust for them.

Not really. Giannis is going to resign, which means they got a lot of change spread out over 6 years in return for Holiday. But no big trade value in return though.

Even with the rumors that he was going to resign, there's no guarantee that he wouldn't force himself out at some point if they don't field enough talent around him in adequate time. It's certainly not a 6 year timeframe.

When I say a 6 year timeframe, Im talking about the timeframe in which they will be getting their assets.

#24 this year
2024 pick (Bucks already traded away the 2022 1st round pick, so that means the next eligible pick to trade is 2024)
2026 pick

Now say Giannis signs that 5 year max (seems like this is going to happen). The first year of that starts in the 2021-2022 season. So say he wants out 3 years into his 5 year deal. First of all, he will have no leverage with the amount of time remaining on the deal, but even if they do trade him just 3 years into his 5 year deal (end of the 2024 season), the only draft pick that would affect is the 2026 pick. Since they would've already played out the 2024 season and affected their draft position.

[HMFFL]

So Lonzo looking like a odd fit right about now.... how about coming back to LA but across the hall

How is he an odd fit exactly?

Bledsoe is the odd fit, terrible shooter that can't be the playmaker. Lonzo played better without Jrue now I imagine he will do the same without Bledsoe

Exactly! Bledsoe doesn't fit at all, IMO.
I expect New Orleans to trade him but probably not for a lot of value. Getting his contract off the books will be a big help.

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[poultryfan]

When I say a 6 year timeframe, Im talking about the timeframe in which they will be getting their assets.

#24 this year
2024 pick (Bucks already traded away the 2022 1st round pick, so that means the next eligible pick to trade is 2024)
2026 pick

Now say Giannis signs that 5 year max (seems like this is going to happen). The first year of that starts in the 2021-2022 season. So say he wants out 3 years into his 5 year deal. First of all, he will have no leverage with the amount of time remaining on the deal, but even if they do trade him just 3 years into his 5 year deal (end of the 2024 season), the only draft pick that would affect is the 2026 pick. Since they would've already played out the 2024 season and affected their draft position.

Okay my bad I totally misread your post. The 6 years in your post is referring to the value of the assets, not the timeframe in which the Bucks can convince Giannis to stay.

[BuddyBuckets]

Peeps need to stop looking at the Lakers/Bucks pick swaps as any value for the Pels. They simply wouldnt be there unless there was 99% certainty they'd be empty words on paper.

As a Pels fan I kinda like the hope of what those last 1sts from the Bucks/Lakers could look like. But it's still a gamble from Griff.

I think George Hill will be kept and Bledsoe will be shopped.

Pelicans now have multiple first rounders in almost every draft for the next 5 years if I understand this correctly. So they're always a threat to move up, or they can just wait for BI and Zion to prove they can be a playoff core and then use their war chest to get a 3rd star.

Griff has given the Pelicans a LOT of flexibility down the road and even now. This may also be an indicator to Zion that the expectation is now there for him to step up, there is less confusion. It's BI/Zion's team and they can compete with each other on the level of greatness they achieve. When the time is right Griff will consolidate future assets for the right piece to add to that combo.

[TheNewEra]

How is he an odd fit exactly?

Bledsoe is the odd fit, terrible shooter that can't be the playmaker. Lonzo played better without Jrue now I imagine he will do the same without Bledsoe

Exactly! Bledsoe doesn't fit at all, IMO.
I expect New Orleans to trade him but probably not for a lot of value. Getting his contract off the books will be a big help.

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I’m still not seeing the teams lining up to take Bledsoe. Maybe Denver as a Sixth man

[Jkam31]

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Amazing take

[ratul]

Lol at this trade. Five first rounders? sure

[Mone 24]

Great trade for the Bucks, they are all-in.
Maybe are they scared about a possible Giannis goodbye ?

Btw, they have to do this trade.
Milwaukee hasn't got a 2nd unit right now, but with this incredible line-up I expect some other moves to build it.

Giannis, now you haven't more excuses not to achieve ECF.

[Fresh_Prince12]

Not really. Giannis is going to resign, which means they got a lot of change spread out over 6 years in return for Holiday. But no big trade value in return though.

Even with the rumors that he was going to resign, there's no guarantee that he wouldn't force himself out at some point if they don't field enough talent around him in adequate time. It's certainly not a 6 year timeframe.

When I say a 6 year timeframe, Im talking about the timeframe in which they will be getting their assets.

#24 this year
2024 pick (Bucks already traded away the 2022 1st round pick, so that means the next eligible pick to trade is 2024)
2026 pick

Now say Giannis signs that 5 year max (seems like this is going to happen). The first year of that starts in the 2021-2022 season. So say he wants out 3 years into his 5 year deal. First of all, he will have no leverage with the amount of time remaining on the deal, but even if they do trade him just 3 years into his 5 year deal (end of the 2024 season), the only draft pick that would affect is the 2026 pick. Since they would've already played out the 2024 season and affected their draft position.

Not to mention it would be safe to assume bucks would be getting draft picks for Giannis as well. This isn’t the Brooklyn deal for pierce and Garnett

[NO-KG-AI]

People expecting Jrue to be the Jrue from one Portland series one time are going to be disappointed.

Truth is, he’s average on just about everything offensively except passing. He’s better than Bledsoe, but he’s not a star on offense in the least.


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