NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 (Fresh poll ➥ Vote)

Gibson22 · Post #341 » by **Gibson22** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:34 am

Paul George and Kawhi Leonard missed (and lost) another game

jigga_man · Post #342 » by **jigga_man** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:27 pm

VDT wrote:I think if they can, that is if he has reasonably good numbers and the Lakers have a good record, they will give one last MVP award to Lebron.

And this really where it comes down to. 'reasonably good numbers' is all he needs. And to have his top 5 overall team mate and arguably the best two player in the league to stay healthy.

Look at the media attention Jokic got by putting up 29/22/6 in a win against one of the best teams in the West vs LeBron's recent games vs the Cavs. It was night and day (looking at you ESPN)

Gatorade Sax · Post #343 » by **Gatorade Sax** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:14 am

I backed Jokic at the start of the year at a great price. So, naturally, he won’t win it. Congrats LeBron, you cheeky old bastard.

art_tatum · Post #344 » by **art_tatum** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:14 am

has to be embiid at this point.
luka and jokic are rising with their team records getting better and better.

Yuri36 · Post #345 » by **Yuri36** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:45 am

art_tatum wrote:has to be embiid at this point.
luka and jokic are rising with their team records getting better and better.

Not in Luka's case, his team record is actually getting worse day by day recently.....
The KP deal is really turning out to be a disaster and is already undirectly tarnishing Luka's legacy comparing to the other all time greats.

Dutchball97 · Post #346 » by **Dutchball97** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:52 am

I wonder how much time Kawhi will miss. The MVP race is still close so every game he doesn't play, while others continue to add to their stats is going to see him slip in the rankings. I have him 3rd behind Jokic and Embiid at the moment but I'm already contemplating putting LeBron ahead of him, while KD also isn't too far behind. Doncic and Vucevic have been lights out but you can't win MVP with a losing record and I don't think Giannis, Dame and Steph have played well enough to get serious MVP consideration. AD should be somewhere in the conversation but it's hard to win the award with LeBron on your team. Jaylen Brown is another guy who is still firmly in the race but if we're being realistic he's not a likely candidate.

Gooner · Post #347 » by **Gooner** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:57 am

If the Nets finish with top 2 record in the east, it's KD's. He is putting up efortless 30 per game coming off of achilles injury that ends careers normally.

Freighttrain · Post #348 » by **Freighttrain** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:24 pm

I thought Embiid played okay against the Lakers, but he didn't perform the way an MVP would in the second half. He came out guns blazing in the first quarter but I missed his imprint during the second half, I thought Simmons had a bigger impact during that stretch. As for the Lakers, LeBron is playing Cavs mode again, as AD seems to continue to stink it up. Dude couldn't hit a free throw to save his life. Disappointed because I thought he would take that next step as an MVP candidate. I didn't think LeBron nor Embiid came out as a clear winner of that 'matchup'.

C0bR · Post #349 » by **C0bR** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:53 pm

Dutchball97 wrote:I wonder how much time Kawhi will miss. The MVP race is still close so every game he doesn't play, while others continue to add to their stats is going to see him slip in the rankings. I have him 3rd behind Jokic and Embiid at the moment but I'm already contemplating putting LeBron ahead of him, while KD also isn't too far behind. Doncic and Vucevic have been lights out but you can't win MVP with a losing record and I don't think Giannis, Dame and Steph have played well enough to get serious MVP consideration. AD should be somewhere in the conversation but it's hard to win the award with LeBron on your team. Jaylen Brown is another guy who is still firmly in the race but if we're being realistic he's not a likely candidate.

Davis has no business being in the conversation, right now he wouldn't even make All NBA 3rd team.

Dutchball97 · Post #350 » by **Dutchball97** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:06 pm

C0bR wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:I wonder how much time Kawhi will miss. The MVP race is still close so every game he doesn't play, while others continue to add to their stats is going to see him slip in the rankings. I have him 3rd behind Jokic and Embiid at the moment but I'm already contemplating putting LeBron ahead of him, while KD also isn't too far behind. Doncic and Vucevic have been lights out but you can't win MVP with a losing record and I don't think Giannis, Dame and Steph have played well enough to get serious MVP consideration. AD should be somewhere in the conversation but it's hard to win the award with LeBron on your team. Jaylen Brown is another guy who is still firmly in the race but if we're being realistic he's not a likely candidate.

Davis has no business being in the conversation, right now he wouldn't even make All NBA 3rd team.

Based on what? He's 5th in WS and VORP.

Homer38 · Post #351 » by **Homer38** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:22 pm

Dutchball97 wrote:
C0bR wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:I wonder how much time Kawhi will miss. The MVP race is still close so every game he doesn't play, while others continue to add to their stats is going to see him slip in the rankings. I have him 3rd behind Jokic and Embiid at the moment but I'm already contemplating putting LeBron ahead of him, while KD also isn't too far behind. Doncic and Vucevic have been lights out but you can't win MVP with a losing record and I don't think Giannis, Dame and Steph have played well enough to get serious MVP consideration. AD should be somewhere in the conversation but it's hard to win the award with LeBron on your team. Jaylen Brown is another guy who is still firmly in the race but if we're being realistic he's not a likely candidate.

Davis has no business being in the conversation, right now he wouldn't even make All NBA 3rd team.

Based on what? He's 5th in WS and VORP.

I love Davis but right now he is not in the top 25 in scoring...

Jurassic_Park · Post #352 » by **Jurassic_Park** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:47 pm

Lebron is now the betting favourite across multiple sportsbooks. He has taken the top spot from Luka as dallas continues to slip in the standings.

Homer38 · Post #353 » by **Homer38** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:49 pm

LeBron took his rhythm in his last 4 games as scorer

rzzzzz · Post #354 » by **rzzzzz** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:25 pm

Freighttrain wrote:I thought Embiid played okay against the Lakers, but he didn't perform the way an MVP would in the second half. He came out guns blazing in the first quarter but I missed his imprint during the second half.

LeBron hurt him pretty good with that mid-air shove that stung his back when he landed. Probably even more emotionally when he realized the refs were going to let it slide. Doc said all the right things after the game. Embiid is going to have to stay healthy, and accept that ultimately folks don’t love Goliath. But LeBron wouldn’t have done it if Embiid wasn’t so dominant. Not flashy, like Ben, but constant. I’m glad this happened last night, and not in the finals.

Freighttrain · Post #355 » by **Freighttrain** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:48 pm

rzzzzz wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:I thought Embiid played okay against the Lakers, but he didn't perform the way an MVP would in the second half. He came out guns blazing in the first quarter but I missed his imprint during the second half.

LeBron hurt him pretty good with that mid-air shove that stung his back when he landed. Probably even more emotionally when he realized the refs were going to let it slide. Doc said all the right things after the game. Embiid is going to have to stay healthy, and accept that ultimately folks don’t love Goliath. But LeBron wouldn’t have done it if Embiid wasn’t so dominant. Not flashy, like Ben, but constant. I’m glad this happened last night, and not in the finals.

yes, I'm sure he thought damn this dude is really good, might give him a push because he's so dominant. I swear some of you guys make stuff up for the heck of it.

Snotbubbles · Post #356 » by **Snotbubbles** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:50 pm

Freighttrain wrote:I thought Embiid played okay against the Lakers, but he didn't perform the way an MVP would in the second half. He came out guns blazing in the first quarter but I missed his imprint during the second half, I thought Simmons had a bigger impact during that stretch. As for the Lakers, LeBron is playing Cavs mode again, as AD seems to continue to stink it up. Dude couldn't hit a free throw to save his life. Disappointed because I thought he would take that next step as an MVP candidate. I didn't think LeBron nor Embiid came out as a clear winner of that 'matchup'.

Certainly wasn't Embiid's best game. Simmons advanced numbers look really good from that game yet he ended up a -11. Go figure.

Freighttrain · Post #357 » by **Freighttrain** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:52 pm

Snotbubbles wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:I thought Embiid played okay against the Lakers, but he didn't perform the way an MVP would in the second half. He came out guns blazing in the first quarter but I missed his imprint during the second half, I thought Simmons had a bigger impact during that stretch. As for the Lakers, LeBron is playing Cavs mode again, as AD seems to continue to stink it up. Dude couldn't hit a free throw to save his life. Disappointed because I thought he would take that next step as an MVP candidate. I didn't think LeBron nor Embiid came out as a clear winner of that 'matchup'.

Certainly wasn't Embiid's best game. Simmons advanced numbers look really good from that game yet he ended up a -11. Go figure.

I'm kind of 50/50 on the plus minus stat. The eye test is underappreciated these days. I thought he had a big impact and put pressure on our defense and made us think. I suppose there is no metric for that.

Snotbubbles · Post #358 » by **Snotbubbles** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:56 pm

Freighttrain wrote:
Snotbubbles wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:I thought Embiid played okay against the Lakers, but he didn't perform the way an MVP would in the second half. He came out guns blazing in the first quarter but I missed his imprint during the second half, I thought Simmons had a bigger impact during that stretch. As for the Lakers, LeBron is playing Cavs mode again, as AD seems to continue to stink it up. Dude couldn't hit a free throw to save his life. Disappointed because I thought he would take that next step as an MVP candidate. I didn't think LeBron nor Embiid came out as a clear winner of that 'matchup'.

Certainly wasn't Embiid's best game. Simmons advanced numbers look really good from that game yet he ended up a -11. Go figure.

I'm kind of 50/50 on the plus minus stat. The eye test is underappreciated these days. I thought he had a big impact and put pressure on our defense and made us think. I suppose there is no metric for that.

Yeah, Simmons was definitely engaged last night pushing the ball. Defensively, he's been great all season. Last nights Ben Simmons is the player the Sixers need if they want to make a run in the playoffs.

Arsenal · Post #359 » by **Arsenal** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:58 pm

Freighttrain wrote:I thought Embiid played okay against the Lakers, but he didn't perform the way an MVP would in the second half. He came out guns blazing in the first quarter but I missed his imprint during the second half, I thought Simmons had a bigger impact during that stretch. As for the Lakers, LeBron is playing Cavs mode again, as AD seems to continue to stink it up. Dude couldn't hit a free throw to save his life. Disappointed because I thought he would take that next step as an MVP candidate. I didn't think LeBron nor Embiid came out as a clear winner of that 'matchup'.

That's because your boy injured him with a cheap shot.

rzzzzz · Post #360 » by **rzzzzz** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:02 pm

Freighttrain wrote:yes, I'm sure he thought damn this dude is really good, might give him a push because he's so dominant. I swear some of you guys make stuff up for the heck of it.

No, he thought “I think the big guy likes me. I’ll give him a love tap and then invite him over for lemonade after the game.”

Who is the MVP so far?