Damian Lillard

[spree8]

Wouldn’t it be some **** if Kidd & Dame end up in Boston?

Damn, why u gotta put that out in the universe!?

[Synciere]

31 isn’t old. If you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame the player, that’s one thing, but if you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame, the 31 year-old, you’re wrong.

Phoenix gave up a first for CP, and they’d do it again. Most of us here didn’t want to do that because he was 35. It’s like Knicks fans have suddenly become Danny Ainge.

This isn’t some pipe dream. Every 1-2 years a star player flexes and you have to be ready to pounce. We already benefited from this eight years ago with Melo. Most like to act like we lost that trade but it’s clear it was the moves afterwards that sunk the Melo years. Chandler, Danilo, shyt there were posters still here who said Timofey Mozgov was their final straw. Smh... with only 15 players, and five who play at a time, players like Dame are worth too much not to put bids in for.

[GEOLINK]

[Synciere]

Wouldn’t it be some **** if Kidd & Dame end up in Boston?

Damn, why u gotta put that out in the universe!?

Would serve us right for not outbidding them when we easily could.

[Synciere]

Gallo turning the clock back

He barely got off the ground lol

[GEOLINK]

Gallo turning the clock back

He barely got off the ground lol

Noticed I posted in the wrong thread but

[Synciere]

I can't believe some of you are hesitant on acquiring Damian Lillard. You guys are probably the same people that were "worried" about giving Durant a max contract (due to his injury) and also getting Harden because he's a cancer. Now the Nets are contenders with those two guys while we got smoked in the first round with our over-achieving group of role players.

IMO, our GM should have a list of the top 30 players in the league on their wall and if any of those guys become available, you go out and get them. Obviously, there's a price where it becomes too much. Lillard is 32 but even a declining Lillard is way better than anything we've had at the PG spot in a long time.

Imagine if the Clips lose tomorrow and Kawhi opts out. Signing Kawhi and trading for Lillard and hanging onto to Randle means we'd become a contender right away. Some of you would rather toil in mediocrity.

I think a lot of fans today suffer from Krause syndrome, where they think the organization is the key, rather than the players. Others are part of the Hinkie Cult, and believe even though you’ve just played in the playoffs for the first time in eight years, tanking for a top 3 pick is the ONLY way you can get to contention. Mediocrity? No, they want to be lowest of the lowest. Basically the Clippers of old, or the Mavericks before Cuban. Sucked every year and STILL never won chips.

[Marty McFly]

31 isn’t old. If you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame the player, that’s one thing, but if you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame, the 31 year-old, you’re wrong.

Phoenix gave up a first for CP, and they’d do it again. Most of us here didn’t want to do that because he was 35. It’s like Knicks fans have suddenly become Danny Ainge.

This isn’t some pipe dream. Every 1-2 years a star player flexes and you have to be ready to pounce. We already benefited from this eight years ago with Melo. Most like to act like we lost that trade but it’s clear it was the moves afterwards that sunk the Melo years. Chandler, Danilo, shyt there were posters still here who said Timofey Mozgov was their final straw. Smh... with only 15 players, and five who play at a time, players like Dame are worth too much not to put bids in for.

it depends on the context. the knicks have traded firsts for star players before and it didn't always pan out, the teams construction after said trade is important. Phoenix had two blue chip foundational pieces in Booker and Ayton. we don't have anyone as good as either of those right now. I'm all for trading Dame but I'd caution about the rest of the team. barring Kawhi -who's a pipe dream in it of itself- there isn't anyone who makes a gutted team led by Dame a contender. I feel Dame would suffer the same fate as Melo in New York while Brooklyn plays the part of Miami with a superstar trio.

[Marty McFly]

I can't believe some of you are hesitant on acquiring Damian Lillard. You guys are probably the same people that were "worried" about giving Durant a max contract (due to his injury) and also getting Harden because he's a cancer. Now the Nets are contenders with those two guys while we got smoked in the first round with our over-achieving group of role players.

IMO, our GM should have a list of the top 30 players in the league on their wall and if any of those guys become available, you go out and get them. Obviously, there's a price where it becomes too much. Lillard is 32 but even a declining Lillard is way better than anything we've had at the PG spot in a long time.

Imagine if the Clips lose tomorrow and Kawhi opts out. Signing Kawhi and trading for Lillard and hanging onto to Randle means we'd become a contender right away. Some of you would rather toil in mediocrity.

I think a lot of fans today suffer from Krause syndrome, where they think the organization is the key, rather than the players. Others are part of the Hinkie Cult, and believe even though you’ve just played in the playoffs for the first time in eight years, tanking for a top 3 pick is the ONLY way you can get to contention. Mediocrity? No, they want to be lowest of the lowest. Basically the Clippers of old, or the Mavericks before Cuban. Sucked every year and STILL never won chips.

Both Pippen and Michael were criminally underpaid during their dynasty, and that allowed that shrewd front office to fill out the roster.

That's probably because a lot of those fans have been knicks fans for at least 20 years and know what this team has and hasn't done over two decades. If the organization wasn't key, the most valuable franchise in the worlds biggest media market would have more than 2 title banners hanging from its rafters.

16 of the Celtics 17 titles had Red Auerbach in some front office capacity. organization absolutely matters.

[N8isScofield]

Damn, this man got left at the alter by a wife beater.

[Synciere]

31 isn’t old. If you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame the player, that’s one thing, but if you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame, the 31 year-old, you’re wrong.

Phoenix gave up a first for CP, and they’d do it again. Most of us here didn’t want to do that because he was 35. It’s like Knicks fans have suddenly become Danny Ainge.

This isn’t some pipe dream. Every 1-2 years a star player flexes and you have to be ready to pounce. We already benefited from this eight years ago with Melo. Most like to act like we lost that trade but it’s clear it was the moves afterwards that sunk the Melo years. Chandler, Danilo, shyt there were posters still here who said Timofey Mozgov was their final straw. Smh... with only 15 players, and five who play at a time, players like Dame are worth too much not to put bids in for.

it depends on the context. the knicks have traded firsts for star players before and it didn't always pan out, the teams construction after said trade is important. Phoenix had two blue chip foundational pieces in Booker and Ayton. we don't have anyone as good as either of those right now. I'm all for trading Dame but I'd caution about the rest of the team. barring Kawhi -who's a pipe dream in it of itself- there isn't anyone who makes a gutted team led by Dame a contender. I feel Dame would suffer the same fate as Melo in New York while Brooklyn plays the part of Miami with a superstar trio.

Yeah it always depends on context. Phoenix had Booker and Ayton and did less than what we did this year. Using context, trading a first for CP last offseason would’ve been a GREAT move for us, especially in the East. The reason I feel Dame wouldn’t suffer the same fate here is that we’d have a ridiculous amount of cap space, especially if we’re trading everything away for him. We’d essentially be preserving our cap in spite of bringing on a 40 million dollar player.

[Synciere]

I can't believe some of you are hesitant on acquiring Damian Lillard. You guys are probably the same people that were "worried" about giving Durant a max contract (due to his injury) and also getting Harden because he's a cancer. Now the Nets are contenders with those two guys while we got smoked in the first round with our over-achieving group of role players.

IMO, our GM should have a list of the top 30 players in the league on their wall and if any of those guys become available, you go out and get them. Obviously, there's a price where it becomes too much. Lillard is 32 but even a declining Lillard is way better than anything we've had at the PG spot in a long time.

Imagine if the Clips lose tomorrow and Kawhi opts out. Signing Kawhi and trading for Lillard and hanging onto to Randle means we'd become a contender right away. Some of you would rather toil in mediocrity.

I think a lot of fans today suffer from Krause syndrome, where they think the organization is the key, rather than the players. Others are part of the Hinkie Cult, and believe even though you’ve just played in the playoffs for the first time in eight years, tanking for a top 3 pick is the ONLY way you can get to contention. Mediocrity? No, they want to be lowest of the lowest. Basically the Clippers of old, or the Mavericks before Cuban. Sucked every year and STILL never won chips.

Both Pippen and Michael were criminally underpaid during their dynasty, and that allowed that shrewd front office to fill out the roster.

That's probably because a lot of those fans have been knicks fans for at least 20 years and know what this team has and hasn't done over two decades. If the organization wasn't key, the most valuable franchise in the worlds biggest media market would have more than 2 title banners hanging from its rafters.

16 of the Celtics 17 titles had Red Auerbach in some front office capacity. organization absolutely matters.

The Celtics are the worst example because of 11 of those chips came in an eight or ten team league right? Again, context. The organization’s job is to 1) identify talent so you can win on the court and 2) make money off the court. This Knicks organization is a financial success IN SPITE of having terrible executives, making my point for me. It’s not about the executives, at least not here in New York. It’s always going to be about the players first and foremost. These philosophies we like to pontificate on as fans are irrelevant. When elite talent is available and you can upgrade, you do it. In the NBA, if you get the best player in the deal, you win the trade 9 out of 10 times.

[newyorker4ever]

Fair play to you, Sir. Getting personal on a message board in a conversation achieves nothing.

The Knicks once again giving up multiple first round picks...round and round the Knicks go.

Trolling another teams message board with dumbass opinions achieves what? FU

From time to time, I do post on the Knicks board, yes.

Simply engaging in some conversation here on the board. There is absolutely no trolling. I tend to keep it moving if I disagree. Or, I choose to debate or provide a rebuttal free of insults.

Yes. Understood. My opinions are trash.

Coming to the Knicks board and making comments like i'm gonna post below would be considered trolling.

"The Knicks once again giving up multiple first round picks...round and round the Knicks go"

[Oscirus]

31 isn’t old. If you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame the player, that’s one thing, but if you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame, the 31 year-old, you’re wrong.

Phoenix gave up a first for CP, and they’d do it again. Most of us here didn’t want to do that because he was 35. It’s like Knicks fans have suddenly become Danny Ainge.

This isn’t some pipe dream. Every 1-2 years a star player flexes and you have to be ready to pounce. We already benefited from this eight years ago with Melo. Most like to act like we lost that trade but it’s clear it was the moves afterwards that sunk the Melo years. Chandler, Danilo, shyt there were posters still here who said Timofey Mozgov was their final straw. Smh... with only 15 players, and five who play at a time, players like Dame are worth too much not to put bids in for.

A first not every prospect and draft pick not stapled down

[Synciere]

31 isn’t old. If you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame the player, that’s one thing, but if you don’t want to give up the farm for Dame, the 31 year-old, you’re wrong.

Phoenix gave up a first for CP, and they’d do it again. Most of us here didn’t want to do that because he was 35. It’s like Knicks fans have suddenly become Danny Ainge.

This isn’t some pipe dream. Every 1-2 years a star player flexes and you have to be ready to pounce. We already benefited from this eight years ago with Melo. Most like to act like we lost that trade but it’s clear it was the moves afterwards that sunk the Melo years. Chandler, Danilo, shyt there were posters still here who said Timofey Mozgov was their final straw. Smh... with only 15 players, and five who play at a time, players like Dame are worth too much not to put bids in for.

A first not every prospect and draft pick not stapled down

One first?! That’s not market value. Also, we have our picks and Dallas’s picks. Those picks aren’t lottery picks. I expect the Knicks to get better as IQ and Obi and Mitch and RJ get better. We know who Luka is. Those picks aren’t going to be worth what we think. This is Boston of a few years ago all over again. They held on to picks and have seriously regressed, in spite of Tatum and Brown getting better. This isn’t the knicks of old giving up multiple lottery picks. At least not without injury which we can’t predict and could happen to any team. Three picks isn’t too much if they end up in the 20s.

[Little Italia]

Why do so many want Lillard? I'd rather have Bradley Beal, he's younger.

[Montmorencie]

My problem with Dame is not his age, its his proven record of failures in playoffs with a better team than the current Knicks.

CP3 even tho at this age is worse overall player than Dame, is much much more effective and useful than Dame, especially come playoff time.

[snadler]

My problem with Dame is not his age, its his proven record of failures in playoffs with a better team than the current Knicks.

CP3 even tho at this age is worse overall player than Dame, is much much more effective and useful than Dame, especially come playoff time.

In 2019 Dame carried the blazers to the WCF, I don’t believe Paul has ever done any better..so this makes no point

[DaGawd]

Why do so many want Lillard? I'd rather have Bradley Beal, he's younger.

By only 3 years… and Dame is on a whole level higher than a player like Beal who I like but can’t carry a team the way Dame can

[Sark]

My problem with Dame is not his age, its his proven record of failures in playoffs with a better team than the current Knicks.

CP3 even tho at this age is worse overall player than Dame, is much much more effective and useful than Dame, especially come playoff time.

In 2019 Dame carried the blazers to the WCF, I don’t believe Paul has ever done any better..so this makes no point

I don't know if carry is the right word. CJ McCollum not only scored more, but also shot better than Dame in the WCSF against the Nuggets.