Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[blueNorange]

Where is the quote that said Melo isn't allowed to play?

I get what you're trying to say. You're wrong. No one wants Melo here. Jeff...Perry...Mills. They are moving forward. Melo doesn't fit in those plans. This is further proof that Melo is only here because he killed his own value and is continuing to do so. The team isn't obligated to "play nice". They let him know what's up. If it's Houston or nothing...this is what nothing is gonna look like. Nothing for you.

They will play him and keep him in game shape if he wants to buy into what Jeff is doing. That's all. He's not the focus and he's not the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option.

I don't see you telling Melo to play nice.

I do think that Melo will be featured to some degree. We would be shooting ourselves in the foot if we relegated him to the last option. Also, wasn't Jeff at one of Melo's training sessions at that gym? I do think unofficial mandate is to help him look better so we can get a return at the deadline. Would also make sense why he was seen working with our rookie and other players on the team.

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

[NewYorkPride85]

I do think that Melo will be featured to some degree. We would be shooting ourselves in the foot if we relegated him to the last option. Also, wasn't Jeff at one of Melo's training sessions at that gym? I do think unofficial mandate is to help him look better so we can get a return at the deadline. Would also make sense why he was seen working with our rookie and other players on the team.

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

I beg to differ. He played last season in a system that was not predicated to him and his numbers dropped. The same went for the rest of the team. Yes he is a volume shooter but we are not looking for him to reinvent himself. We are looking for the percentages and PPG to go back up. You cant deny that last year the team was looked lost and its hard to perform when you have no idea what you are doing on the court. Put him back in his bread and butter system and he will look better.

FYI - I totally agree with you with all the Melo/Lebron comparison nonsense but I don't think that's what Moo was referring to. All we are saying is that we're looking for him to regain some of what he lost while playing in the triangle.

[DOT]

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

I beg to differ. He played last season in a system that was not predicated to him and his numbers dropped. The same went for the rest of the team. Yes he is a volume shooter but we are not looking for him to reinvent himself. We are looking for the percentages and PPG to go back up. You cant deny that last year the team was looked lost and its hard to perform when you have no idea what you are doing on the court. Put him back in his bread and butter system and he will look better.

People know what Melo is at this point

And his numbers actually went up last year, from 21.8 ppg on 43/34/83 to 22.4 on 43/36/83

Force feeding him shots will not make teams think any more highly of him, once you've been in the league 14 years, you're a known commodity

[Jalen Bluntson]

I do think that Melo will be featured to some degree. We would be shooting ourselves in the foot if we relegated him to the last option. Also, wasn't Jeff at one of Melo's training sessions at that gym? I do think unofficial mandate is to help him look better so we can get a return at the deadline. Would also make sense why he was seen working with our rookie and other players on the team.

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

Exactly. His value is set. More importantly...HE ONLY WANTS ONE TEAM THAT WON'T PAY UP NOW! Risking injury is even more insane in this scenario. Why this is hard to understand is beyond me.

IT'S NOT PUNISHMENT!

It is what is best for Melo because of he gets hurt playing in meaningless games...he will be stuck here. He would be gone if he wasn't squeezing the team again.

It's what is best for the team because...if he gets hurt we are stuck with him. We want to focus on our youth. We are trying not to lose more value. THIS SHOULD BE WHAT EVERYONE HERE WANTS!!!

[NewYorkPride85]

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

I beg to differ. He played last season in a system that was not predicated to him and his numbers dropped. The same went for the rest of the team. Yes he is a volume shooter but we are not looking for him to reinvent himself. We are looking for the percentages and PPG to go back up. You cant deny that last year the team was looked lost and its hard to perform when you have no idea what you are doing on the court. Put him back in his bread and butter system and he will look better.

People know what Melo is at this point

And his numbers actually went up last year, from 21.8 ppg on 43/34/83 to 22.4 on 43/36/83

Force feeding him shots will not make teams think any more highly of him, once you've been in the league 14 years, you're a known commodity

I actually meant before Phil. 2014, the year Phil took over (albeit in March towards the end of the season) Melo was hurt and only played 40 games so obviously it would drop from 27.4 to 24.2 but the next two season he averaged 70+ games and had the 21.8 and 22.4 respectively. Considering the amount of games he played its safe to say he is relatively healthy and I think the drop correlates to the instability with the coaching staff (Fisher as a rookie HC and then Rambis) and front office (Triangle/No Triangle/Triangle). It would not hurt us to see what he can do in a system he is comfortable with again without having to worry about .....triangle

[moocow007]

I do think that Melo will be featured to some degree. We would be shooting ourselves in the foot if we relegated him to the last option. Also, wasn't Jeff at one of Melo's training sessions at that gym? I do think unofficial mandate is to help him look better so we can get a return at the deadline. Would also make sense why he was seen working with our rookie and other players on the team.

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

And of course you're right. Wait...i forget why is it that you're right?

Seriously though it's ludicrous to say that if he plays great that his value won't increase. Ludicrous. A player plays better increases his value regardless of how much you despise him.

And as far as comparing him to LeBron. If you guys aren't doing that then why are you so fuuuurrrriiiioooouuus at him? Right...because he can't turn crap (see the bulk of the players he's been surrounded with in NY) into gold...like LeBron can.

[moocow007]

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

Exactly. His value is set. More importantly...HE ONLY WANTS ONE TEAM THAT WON'T PAY UP NOW! Risking injury is even more insane in this scenario. Why this is hard to understand is beyond me.

IT'S NOT PUNISHMENT!

It is what is best for Melo because of he gets hurt playing in meaningless games...he will be stuck here. He would be gone if he wasn't squeezing the team again.

It's what is best for the team because...if he gets hurt we are stuck with him. We want to focus on our youth. We are trying not to lose more value. THIS SHOULD BE WHAT EVERYONE HERE WANTS!!!

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So should we sit Porzingis cause if he gets injured then our future is doomed? Wouldn't the Knicks be playing meaningless games? Why not sir Ntilikina too? What if he gets hurt? I know. Let's play nthony so he gets hurt and no one would want him so he can crawl into a hole and disappear?

Not playing him because he might get injured is just silly, it is. It is.

Squeezing the team? Because of what? Because of that stupid NTC that he gave himself? Did he brain wash Phil Jackson or take advantage of a senile the? What is he Squeezing? Certainly not LaLa's boobies.

[DOT]

I beg to differ. He played last season in a system that was not predicated to him and his numbers dropped. The same went for the rest of the team. Yes he is a volume shooter but we are not looking for him to reinvent himself. We are looking for the percentages and PPG to go back up. You cant deny that last year the team was looked lost and its hard to perform when you have no idea what you are doing on the court. Put him back in his bread and butter system and he will look better.

People know what Melo is at this point

And his numbers actually went up last year, from 21.8 ppg on 43/34/83 to 22.4 on 43/36/83

Force feeding him shots will not make teams think any more highly of him, once you've been in the league 14 years, you're a known commodity

I actually meant before Phil. 2014, the year Phil took over (albeit in March towards the end of the season) Melo was hurt and only played 40 games so obviously it would drop from 27.4 to 24.2 but the next two season he averaged 70+ games and had the 21.8 and 22.4 respectively. Considering the amount of games he played its safe to say he is relatively healthy and I think the drop correlates to the instability with the coaching staff (Fisher as a rookie HC and then Rambis) and front office (Triangle/No Triangle/Triangle). It would not hurt us to see what he can do in a system he is comfortable with again without having to worry about .....triangle

Melo is healthy in the sense that he can play 70 games a season yes, but the knee injury he had in 2015 has taken a toll on his game. In 2014, Melo was 29, and hadn't had a major injury yet. Now he's 33, and had knee surgery (which is pretty major). I was actually watching highlights of the 2013 season last night, and it's clear in even his jumpshot how much less lift he's getting. Plus, he rarely drives to the rim anymore, he's like the anti-LeBron in that regard.
It really isn't about system anymore, no matter what he plays in, his body is starting to give out on him, and he won't be able to play the same way he did pre-injury. Add to that he was never really efficient anyways (I believe his highest TS% was .560, which is about average), and you get a player whose value is pretty much set. Plus, if we wait until the season to trade him, that gives the team he's going to less time to incorporate him into their offense, which for a contender means a lot

[NewYorkPride85]

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

Exactly. His value is set. More importantly...HE ONLY WANTS ONE TEAM THAT WON'T PAY UP NOW! Risking injury is even more insane in this scenario. Why this is hard to understand is beyond me.

IT'S NOT PUNISHMENT!

It is what is best for Melo because of he gets hurt playing in meaningless games...he will be stuck here. He would be gone if he wasn't squeezing the team again.

It's what is best for the team because...if he gets hurt we are stuck with him. We want to focus on our youth. We are trying not to lose more value. THIS SHOULD BE WHAT EVERYONE HERE WANTS!!!

Ok and what makes you so sure he would waive his NTC? He goes to where the money is and he is content not competing for a championship. He never wanted to leave in the first place and was forced into that position when Phil went public and tried to get him to leave through the media. Phil is gone so why would he leave? If he really wanted to go for a championship why not go to SA, OKC, Boston, or any team that has a shot to knock out GS? Its simple, winning is not his motivation and the only reason he is dead set with Houston is so he can play with his banana boat boys and Cleveland is not an option considering its a given that Lebron is gone. No matter what you do he will not expand his list because all he cares about it what he is comfortable with and that consists of Money, Businesses in NYC, and being able to play with his best friends.

He's an old dog and all you are doing is praying he learns a new trick.....which he wont.

[BowlRips]

Looks like the Kryrie deal will get done with Boston including a late first rounder. I would think it's bostons 2018 pick.
If thomas is indeed injured maybe cavs would move Kevin Love to PHX for Bledsoe and then Shumpert frye Cleveland 2018 1st and Boston 2018 1st for Melo?

Thompson
Melo
Lebron
Bledsoe
IT

Is a nice lineup, with JR and Crowder off the bench

[3toheadmelo]

i love moocow

[blueNorange]

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

And of course you're right. Wait...i forget why is it that you're right?

Seriously though it's ludicrous to say that if he plays great that his value won't increase. Ludicrous. A player plays better increases his value regardless of how much you despise him.

And as far as comparing him to LeBron. If you guys aren't doing that then why are you so fuuuurrrriiiioooouuus at him? Right...because he can't turn crap (see the bulk of the players he's been surrounded with in NY) into gold...like LeBron can.

well simply put, the melo era has been a train wreck and it's time to move on.

[Handledatruth]

i love moocow

I swear I was at this alone for a bit.

[moocow007]

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

I beg to differ. He played last season in a system that was not predicated to him and his numbers dropped. The same went for the rest of the team. Yes he is a volume shooter but we are not looking for him to reinvent himself. We are looking for the percentages and PPG to go back up. You cant deny that last year the team was looked lost and its hard to perform when you have no idea what you are doing on the court. Put him back in his bread and butter system and he will look better.

FYI - I totally agree with you with all the Melo/Lebron comparison nonsense but I don't think that's what Moo was referring to. All we are saying is that we're looking for him to regain some of what he lost while playing in the triangle.

I actually meant that with the LeBron comp. No people obviously haven't blatantly said that...it'll be ludicrous...but you don't need to say it to imply it. I'm still trying to figure out what folks think Carmelo Anthony is and isn't as a player. The anger and venom that he receives would indicate that he's expected to have done a whole lot in NY. To which...what exactly did he have around him? Unless there were superstars that I forgot was on the team the past 7 seasons....or even competent lead point guards to run an offense...the reality is that he was never the type of player that can **** gold or make bad teams good, 98-99% of the players in the NBA can't do that. The ones that can? Well LeBron James is one. There's maybe 3 or 4 others. So...Unless folks just like to vent and hate, the amount of hatred for the guy would indicate to me that folks experience Ted him to be a LeBron like player.

[3toheadmelo]

i love moocow

I swear I was at this alone for a bit.

i feel u
i saw you getting ganged up by the anti melo club... happens to me all the time fam

[Handledatruth]

Yeah. And honestly if the Knicks want Anthony gone and get something more than Ryan Anderson offers they would be best served for Anthony to play like Hoodie Melo when the season starts. Essentially let Anthony play himself off this team he doesn't want to be on by playing great. Sitting him as some sort of punishment for him not being LeBron or to try to get him to give up the NTC that they gave him will come off petty and childish and will most definitely not help change/improve the image of this franchise that so many people want to make better. The Knicks try any shenanigans and the media will have a field day (especially if Anthony keeps doing what he's been doing...say nothing, don't give anyone ammunition and let the Knicks bury themselves...see Phil Jackson). Beyind that, sitting Anthony is just going to further erode his value and make it even harder to move him. A productive Anthony playing with a chip on his shoulder and with a purpose will only increase his value. The goal is to move him and get as much back as possible, not to punish him for some perceived or real slight. Sometimes I think folks forget that.

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

Exactly. His value is set. More importantly...HE ONLY WANTS ONE TEAM THAT WON'T PAY UP NOW! Risking injury is even more insane in this scenario. Why this is hard to understand is beyond me.

IT'S NOT PUNISHMENT!

It is what is best for Melo because of he gets hurt playing in meaningless games...he will be stuck here. He would be gone if he wasn't squeezing the team again.

It's what is best for the team because...if he gets hurt we are stuck with him. We want to focus on our youth. We are trying not to lose more value. THIS SHOULD BE WHAT EVERYONE HERE WANTS!!!

I think this right here is the root of where we all differ. Tell Kristaps Porzingis that we will be playing in "meaningless games" next year. Let's notify Frank N, who just came out of championship games, that we will be playing some meaningless games with the Knicks. I guesss THJ just signed from a playoff ATL team to play some meaningless games. This mentality needs to go on this board. Game threads suck when half the folks are cheering to lose. Sounding like TWolve fans in here...

[moocow007]

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

And of course you're right. Wait...i forget why is it that you're right?

Seriously though it's ludicrous to say that if he plays great that his value won't increase. Ludicrous. A player plays better increases his value regardless of how much you despise him.

And as far as comparing him to LeBron. If you guys aren't doing that then why are you so fuuuurrrriiiioooouuus at him? Right...because he can't turn crap (see the bulk of the players he's been surrounded with in NY) into gold...like LeBron can.

well simply put, the melo era has been a train wreck and it's time to move on.

Sure it's time to move on. But the Knicks organization has been a train wreck long before Anthony and chances are probably good that it'll continue to be a train wreck. The organization is the problem. Anthony is just a one dimensional offensive player that they acquired and couldn't do anything with in terms of putting anything even around him or with him to do anything, heck it was time to move on from Anthony 3 years ago when they hired Jackson. I said it then that this was not going to work. Anthony is not Jordan or Kobe, the Knicks roster wasn't the Bulls or Lakers rosters and Derek Fisher is not Phil Jackson. The Knicks should have moved Anthony when he was in his prime when he wasn't saddled with a NTC and moved on. They should have started the rebuild 3 years ago. Should have never hired Jackson, should have hpoached a young assistant GM from a winning franchise, let him bring in his guys and build the franchise the right way. But regardless of all that, blaming Anthony is like blaming the gun when the shooter fails to hit his target. It's misplaced.

[3toheadmelo]

melo's value will simply drop if you want to stop playing him
it's not rocket science

and not only will his value drops,, our value as a FRANCHISE drops as well.
teams, players, etc will look at us like idiots mishandling the situation. is that what you guys want?
people are out here really trying to create a marbury 2.0 and think it's a great option

[NewYorkPride85]

except melo's value is set. it won't go higher or lower, he's a volume shooter at this point in his career

not playing him won't diminish his trade value.

and stop bringing up lebron, the only person who's comparing melo to lebron is you.

And of course you're right. Wait...i forget why is it that you're right?

Seriously though it's ludicrous to say that if he plays great that his value won't increase. Ludicrous. A player plays better increases his value regardless of how much you despise him.

And as far as comparing him to LeBron. If you guys aren't doing that then why are you so fuuuurrrriiiioooouuus at him? Right...because he can't turn crap (see the bulk of the players he's been surrounded with in NY) into gold...like LeBron can.

well simply put, the melo era has been a train wreck and it's time to move on.

Yes it is but you don't sell a car before cleaning it up a little just for the sake of getting rid of it since at the end of the day you are the only one that ends up losing. There's a way to do things and being impatient is not one of them. Honestly, everyone seems to think there's a deal out there on the table for him that we are refusing to consider. Fact of the matter is there is NO DEAL out there worth considering. As a matter of fact the only deal we DO have is the Houston deal and we all know what load of **** that is. If there is no market for us to go to....you let the market come to us. Besides, do you really want to cripple our salary cap with a three year albatross of a deal of the two years we have with Melo? Its not like we are getting any meaningful assets in addition to Ryno from them in return anyway

[NewYorkPride85]

And of course you're right. Wait...i forget why is it that you're right?

Seriously though it's ludicrous to say that if he plays great that his value won't increase. Ludicrous. A player plays better increases his value regardless of how much you despise him.

And as far as comparing him to LeBron. If you guys aren't doing that then why are you so fuuuurrrriiiioooouuus at him? Right...because he can't turn crap (see the bulk of the players he's been surrounded with in NY) into gold...like LeBron can.

well simply put, the melo era has been a train wreck and it's time to move on.

Sure it's time to move on. But the Knicks organization has been a train wreck long before Anthony and chances are probably good that it'll continue to be a train wreck. The organization is the problem. Anthony is just a one dimensional offensive player that they acquired and couldn't do anything with in terms of putting anything even around him or with him to do anything, heck it was time to move on from Anthony 3 years ago when they hired Jackson. I said it then that this was not going to work. Anthony is not Jordan or Kobe, the Knicks roster wasn't the Bulls or Lakers rosters and Derek Fisher is not Phil Jackson. The Knicks should have moved Anthony when he was in his prime when he wasn't saddled with a NTC and moved on. They should have started the rebuild 3 years ago. Should have never hired Jackson, should have hpoached a young assistant GM from a winning franchise, let him bring in his guys and build the franchise the right way. But regardless of all that, blaming Anthony is like blaming the gun when someone gets shot. It's misplaced.

Well....I do have some hope with Perry. We all know if this was the old Knicks we would have bought Melo out or taken the fist deal available. (Both of which would have killed this franchise for the foreseeable future)