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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#361 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:59 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:Nate Robinson wasn't that good as a Knick. It's time to correct history there now that's it's been a few years. He played his best basketball in Chicago.



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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#362 » by reub » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:00 pm

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shtolky wrote:This is clearly just a replacement for Jack. Young guy, why not. No need to overreact for such a minor move.


but jack was always the 16th man on the roster. If Burke makes it...someone else is gone...we already had 15 guys...


We're allowed to carry 16 players on the roster while Noah is serving his 12 game suspension.
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#363 » by god shammgod » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:00 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:Nate Robinson wasn't that good as a Knick. It's time to correct history there now that's it's been a few years. He played his best basketball in Chicago.

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without looking, is this nate shooting at the wrong basket ?

edit- i see you fixed it and yes...yes it is :D
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#364 » by Kampuchea » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:02 pm

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What exactly is wrong with this signing? Please, enlighten us. I know you've been anti-Knicks for a while, but there are actually no downsides to this deal.


I'm a Knicks fan, unsure as to why you insinuate otherwise.

Burke proved he's worse than Jennings, what exactly is RIGHT with this signing?


Right, a Knicks fan. :lol:

Well...he's better than Sessions and Jack and we can cut him easily if it doesn't work out with no long-term cap-hits. Tell me, what exactly is wrong with this signing?


We're going to lose out on Sessions or Jack, who bring more as mentors. And we already have Baker who is fantastic.
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#365 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:02 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:
I'm a Knicks fan, unsure as to why you insinuate otherwise.

Burke proved he's worse than Jennings, what exactly is RIGHT with this signing?


Right, a Knicks fan. :lol:

Well...he's better than Sessions and Jack and we can cut him easily if it doesn't work out with no long-term cap-hits. Tell me, what exactly is wrong with this signing?


It's like when people b*tch about the Beasley signing. As if somewhat talented players are just laying around for the Knicks to swoop up. Beas was worth a shot, he'll score and there is only a 1 year commitment. Actually, it's why I didn't mind the Sessions signing either.

What's the deal with Sessions - is his money guaranteed no matter what?


Exactly. Any one-year deal is a win-win for us, especially at the PG position. If it helps get our young guys good looks, doesn't hurt Frank's development, etc it's good.

I think Sessions' deal is guaranteed but Jack's wasn't? *I might be wrong.* I think Jack should come on as an assistant coach, but ah well.
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#366 » by MaseInYourFace » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:02 pm

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MaseInYourFace wrote:Nate Robinson wasn't that good as a Knick. It's time to correct history there now that's it's been a few years. He played his best basketball in Chicago.



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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#367 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:03 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
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I'm a Knicks fan, unsure as to why you insinuate otherwise.

Burke proved he's worse than Jennings, what exactly is RIGHT with this signing?


Right, a Knicks fan. :lol:

Well...he's better than Sessions and Jack and we can cut him easily if it doesn't work out with no long-term cap-hits. Tell me, what exactly is wrong with this signing?


We're going to lose out on Sessions or Jack, who bring more as mentors. And we already have Baker who is fantastic.


Not for the first 12 games we won't. Also, we can still swing trades to make enough space...and Jack has been trash. He should be a coach, not a player on this roster.
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#368 » by Kampuchea » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:05 pm

Yes, make Jack a coach. Makes a lot of sense since his best contributions would come off the court anyway.
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#369 » by moocow007 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:10 pm

And then you have this...to offset the wrong basket thing.





Again, everything in perspective. Nate Robinson was taken 21st overall...not 2nd overall. The guys drafted after him haven't exactly been better. Most are worse. Same with David Lee (30th overall in the same draft). As a 6th man, scoring punch, energizer off the bench he was great. He could play in the NBA. Unlike many other players that didn't have his warts. If he was placed in an organization that wasn't run like a zoo, maybe he'd have had a more stable career. But even then, Nate Robinson was a gamer. He competed as hard as he could, believed in himself, went full tilt. More than can be said about a lot of other jamokes.
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Post#370 » by bigtimeRC3 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:15 pm

this will be a waste of a season if frank doesnt play any meaningful minutes. its concerning that he did not practice today . resting players for " precaution" for summer league and whole preseason is something to be concerned about. summer league is understandable but not playing preseason is something else. he better play against okc or hes a bust. "sore" knee for one week. this is basketball. if u cant play that, u might as well be disabled and use a wheelchair. stoudemire had "soreness" , look what happened there. there is something the knicks are hiding.
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#371 » by MaseInYourFace » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:17 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:this will be a waste of a season if frank doesnt play any meaningful minutes. its concerning that he did not practice today . resting players for " precaution" for summer league and whole preseason is something to be concerned about. summer league is understandable but not playing preseason is something else. he better play against okc or hes a bust. "sore" knee for one week. this is basketball. if u cant play that, u might as well be disabled and use a wheelchair. stoudemire had "soreness" , look what happened there. there is something the knicks are hiding.


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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#372 » by Sark » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:25 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:this will be a waste of a season if frank doesnt play any meaningful minutes. its concerning that he did not practice today . resting players for " precaution" for summer league and whole preseason is something to be concerned about. summer league is understandable but not playing preseason is something else. he better play against okc or hes a bust. "sore" knee for one week. this is basketball. if u cant play that, u might as well be disabled and use a wheelchair. stoudemire had "soreness" , look what happened there. there is something the knicks are hiding.



So his entire career will be measured on the OKC game?
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Post#373 » by bigtimeRC3 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:26 pm

Sark wrote:
bigtimeRC3 wrote:this will be a waste of a season if frank doesnt play any meaningful minutes. its concerning that he did not practice today . resting players for " precaution" for summer league and whole preseason is something to be concerned about. summer league is understandable but not playing preseason is something else. he better play against okc or hes a bust. "sore" knee for one week. this is basketball. if u cant play that, u might as well be disabled and use a wheelchair. stoudemire had "soreness" , look what happened there. there is something the knicks are hiding.



So his entire career will be measured on the OKC game?


nope but two weeks of rest for knee soreness is unacceptable unless its a serious injury that the team is not disclosing which seems apparent.
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Post#374 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:28 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:this will be a waste of a season if frank doesnt play any meaningful minutes. its concerning that he did not practice today . resting players for " precaution" for summer league and whole preseason is something to be concerned about. summer league is understandable but not playing preseason is something else. he better play against okc or hes a bust. "sore" knee for one week. this is basketball. if u cant play that, u might as well be disabled and use a wheelchair. stoudemire had "soreness" , look what happened there. there is something the knicks are hiding.


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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#375 » by DOT » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:28 pm

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bigtimeRC3 wrote:this will be a waste of a season if frank doesnt play any meaningful minutes. its concerning that he did not practice today . resting players for " precaution" for summer league and whole preseason is something to be concerned about. summer league is understandable but not playing preseason is something else. he better play against okc or hes a bust. "sore" knee for one week. this is basketball. if u cant play that, u might as well be disabled and use a wheelchair. stoudemire had "soreness" , look what happened there. there is something the knicks are hiding.



So his entire career will be measured on the OKC game?


nope but two weeks of rest for knee soreness is unacceptable unless its a serious injury that the team is not disclosing which seems apparent.

Huh, TIL 7 days = 2 weeks

And it's preseason, players sit out all the time for non serious injuries. Look at Chris Paul, he sat out the game against us and is perfectly fine
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#376 » by Sark » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:30 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:
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bigtimeRC3 wrote:this will be a waste of a season if frank doesnt play any meaningful minutes. its concerning that he did not practice today . resting players for " precaution" for summer league and whole preseason is something to be concerned about. summer league is understandable but not playing preseason is something else. he better play against okc or hes a bust. "sore" knee for one week. this is basketball. if u cant play that, u might as well be disabled and use a wheelchair. stoudemire had "soreness" , look what happened there. there is something the knicks are hiding.



So his entire career will be measured on the OKC game?


nope but two weeks of rest for knee soreness is unacceptable unless its a serious injury that the team is not disclosing which seems apparent.



Or maybe they just want to be careful with a 19 year old kid. He wasn't drafted for the purpose of giving a fiending fan base immediate satisfaction. Sorry to break it to you. He was drafted for what he can develop into, not for a game on October 19, 2017.
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Post#377 » by bigtimeRC3 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:32 pm

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So his entire career will be measured on the OKC game?


nope but two weeks of rest for knee soreness is unacceptable unless its a serious injury that the team is not disclosing which seems apparent.

Huh, TIL 7 days = 2 weeks

And it's preseason, players sit out all the time for non serious injuries. Look at Chris Paul, he sat out the game against us and is perfectly fine


chris paula and frank are two different players. we already know who chris paul is. frank has only played a few minutes against the brooklyn nets in preseason. he has no game action. practice wont help him. frank is still very raw . he doesnt know the nba yet. he only played against scrubs in his league. the more time he gets, the better we know what kind of player will he be. dante exum or george hill
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Re: Knicks sign Trey Burke 

Post#378 » by Mecca » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:33 pm

moocow007 wrote:And then you have this...to offset the wrong basket thing.





Again, everything in perspective. Nate Robinson was taken 21st overall...not 2nd overall. The guys drafted after him haven't exactly been better. Most are worse. Same with David Lee (30th overall in the same draft). As a 6th man, scoring punch, energizer off the bench he was great. He could play in the NBA. Unlike many other players that didn't have his warts. If he was placed in an organization that wasn't run like a zoo, maybe he'd have had a more stable career. But even then, Nate Robinson was a gamer. He competed as hard as he could, believed in himself, went full tilt. More than can be said about a lot of other jamokes.


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Post#379 » by louieOrr » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:33 pm

He did hit that dagger, game winner against us.

Not sure why he fell out in Utah, but he has a lot to prove.

Think this is a definite upgrade over Jack or Sessions.

Just a matter of which one of them is the best Mentor as far as which guy gets cut
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Post#380 » by DOT » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:35 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:
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nope but two weeks of rest for knee soreness is unacceptable unless its a serious injury that the team is not disclosing which seems apparent.

Huh, TIL 7 days = 2 weeks

And it's preseason, players sit out all the time for non serious injuries. Look at Chris Paul, he sat out the game against us and is perfectly fine


chris paula and frank are two different players. we already know who chris paul is. frank has only played a few minutes against the brooklyn nets in preseason. he has no game action. practice wont help him. frank is still very raw . he doesnt know the nba yet. he only played against scrubs in his league. the more time he gets, the better we know what kind of player will he be. dante exum or george hill

So Frank not playing 2 preseason games is gonna hold him back from reaching his potential

And practice won't help him? Embiid missed 2 whole years, but just being around NBA players and trainers made him significantly better
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