Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

[IggieCC]

It's hard to believe Ibaka is only 31. I figured he was 36. With that I don't think he'll accept one year deal. This would be his last chance for a pretty good long term contract. It would be very unwise for us to offer him one ofc.

[Chalm Down]

stay clear of ibaka

[gom]

But we have to get a big. Is Ibaka a FA?

Yes Ibaka is a free agent this summer. And one of the closet perfect complementary bigs to put next to Bam.

Do you have a list of FA's available? I get confused between 2020 & 2021 FA's

realgm is a great resource: (for the 2021-2022 off-season in a few weeks)

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/future_free_agents/2022/All/Per_Game/0/NBA/player

for the (2022-2023 off-season at the end of next season's finals, whenever that will be):

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/future_free_agents/2023/All/Per_Game/0/NBA/player

[RonaldSeikaly]

I have a hard time seeing Ibaka accepting a one year deal here when he could do the same in Toronto. We would need to give him a multi-year deal and that would hurt our 2021 cap space.

If we could swing a trade for Lowry then i can see Ibaka following with a 1 year deal. But it feels like every big market team is either cap constrained or preparing to enter the Giannis sweepstakes and wouldn’t give him multiple years. So he may only get multiple years from small market teams


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[3ballbomber]

Yes Ibaka is a free agent this summer. And one of the closet perfect complementary bigs to put next to Bam.

Do you have a list of FA's available? I get confused between 2020 & 2021 FA's

realgm is a great resource: (for the 2021-2022 off-season in a few weeks)

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/future_free_agents/2022/All/Per_Game/0/NBA/player

for the (2022-2023 off-season at the end of next season's finals, whenever that will be):

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/future_free_agents/2023/All/Per_Game/0/NBA/player

Thanking you, sir.

[HeatIn5]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2912395-nba-rumors-heat-seen-as-top-destination-for-stars-via-trade-fa-by-execs

[dshearn]

If Bam and Myles Turner could some how co-exist, he would solve so many problems.

[Seabass777]

If Bam and Myles Turner could some how co-exist, he would solve so many problems.

Not gonna happen they hate each other, but I do think our system would be great for Turner.

[Seabass777]

I say we go after Cousins, and Gallonari this offseason, I wouldn't even mind trying to take a look at IT

[HeatIn5]

Gonna keep saying it - Nunn, Kelly and a 1st for VO

[RexBoyWonder]

Season isn't over yet, and there will be all kinds of option out there. But my guess is the next meaningful player we'll be one of these names :

Danillo Galinari (free agent in 2020)
Ibaka (free agent in 2020)
Jerami Grant (free agent in 2020)

Giannis (free agent in 2021)
Kawhi Leonard (free agent in 2021)
V.Oladipo (free agent in 2021)
Jrue Holiday (free agent in 2021)
Kyle Lowery (free agent in 2021)
Paul George (free agent in 2021)

Bradley Beal (free agent in 2022)
M.Turner (free agent in 2023)


The thing is - there's a huge advantage to adding a free agent as opposed to tradingfor a player under contract.

Let's say you think M.Turner better then Jerami Grant. But we could add Jermi to the current team if he wants to join us and we won't give up anything or anyone to add him.

But if you insist that you want Turner over him, that means we have to trade for him since he's under contract for a few more years. So in that can we'll probably lose Herro/Duncan/KZ/Iggy or some combination of those.

So even if you think Turner > J.Grant, Adding Grant as a free agent might be a lot better for the team if you're looking at the strength of the full roster and not individually about the added player.

Bottom line is - Im looking at those names, their ages, their free agency dates - And I'm praying Victor Oladipo fully recovers, becomes a beast again next year and then heads to free agency.

Giannis and Kawhi look like long shots to come here and Jrue getting up there in age. And I don't want to give up assets for turner or Beal.

[3ballbomber]

Season isn't over yet, and there will be all kinds of option out there. But my guess is the next meaningful player we'll be one of these names :

Danillo Galinari (free agent in 2020)
Ibaka (free agent in 2020)
Jerami Grant (free agent in 2020)

Giannis (free agent in 2021)
Kawhi Leonard (free agent in 2021)
V.Oladipo (free agent in 2021)
Jrue Holiday (free agent in 2021)
Kyle Lowery (free agent in 2021)
Paul George (free agent in 2021)

Bradley Beal (free agent in 2022)
M.Turner (free agent in 2023)


The thing is - there's a huge advantage to adding a free agent as opposed to tradingfor a player under contract.

Let's say you think M.Turner better then Jerami Grant. But we could add Jermi to the current team if he wants to join us and we won't give up anything or anyone to add him.

But if you insist that you want Turner over him, that means we have to trade for him since he's under contract for a few more years. So in that can we'll probably lose Herro/Duncan/KZ/Iggy or some combination of those.

So even if you think Turner > J.Grant, Adding Grant as a free agent might be a lot better for the team if you're looking at the strength of the full roster and not individually about the added player.

Bottom line is - Im looking at those names, their ages, their free agency dates - And I'm praying Victor Oladipo fully recovers, becomes a beast again next year and then heads to free agency.

Giannis and Kawhi look like long shots to come here and Jrue getting up there in age. And I don't w ant to give up assets for turner or Beal.

Appreciate that explanation. I’m not too versed in the workings of FA’s/Contracts etc.

I also get 2020 & 2021 FA’s mixed up. I thought Giannis was available this offseason but it’s the following offseason Could we still trade for him this offseason as an option?

Knowing that now we need to stay competitive nxt season w/new additions. What ever will work while preserving cap space for 2021. Ibaka now looks appealing. Galinari wld certainly address our scoring issues. What are the chances of Miami acquiring Danillo this offseason?

[al bondiga]

Would you take Steven Adams? I would

[Kobewade11]

Season isn't over yet, and there will be all kinds of option out there. But my guess is the next meaningful player we'll be one of these names :

Danillo Galinari (free agent in 2020)
Ibaka (free agent in 2020)
Jerami Grant (free agent in 2020)

Giannis (free agent in 2021)
Kawhi Leonard (free agent in 2021)
V.Oladipo (free agent in 2021)
Jrue Holiday (free agent in 2021)
Kyle Lowery (free agent in 2021)
Paul George (free agent in 2021)

Bradley Beal (free agent in 2022)
M.Turner (free agent in 2023)


The thing is - there's a huge advantage to adding a free agent as opposed to tradingfor a player under contract.

Let's say you think M.Turner better then Jerami Grant. But we could add Jermi to the current team if he wants to join us and we won't give up anything or anyone to add him.

But if you insist that you want Turner over him, that means we have to trade for him since he's under contract for a few more years. So in that can we'll probably lose Herro/Duncan/KZ/Iggy or some combination of those.

So even if you think Turner > J.Grant, Adding Grant as a free agent might be a lot better for the team if you're looking at the strength of the full roster and not individually about the added player.

Bottom line is - Im looking at those names, their ages, their free agency dates - And I'm praying Victor Oladipo fully recovers, becomes a beast again next year and then heads to free agency.

Giannis and Kawhi look like long shots to come here and Jrue getting up there in age. And I don't w ant to give up assets for turner or Beal.

Appreciate that explanation. I’m not too versed in the workings of FA’s/Contracts etc.

I also get 2020 & 2021 FA’s mixed up. I thought Giannis was available this offseason but it’s the following offseason Could we still trade for him this offseason as an option?

Knowing that now we need to stay competitive nxt season w/new additions. What ever will work while preserving cap space for 2021. Ibaka now looks appealing. Galinari wld certainly address our scoring issues. What are the chances of Miami acquiring Danillo this offseason?

We could trade for him if Bucks want to entertain an offer. Its not really in our best interests though, we’d field a better roster signing him outright vs. gutting assets in a trade. The reality for next season is that our hopes rest on Bam taking a KG type leap offensively. That next “whale” probably wont be available until next summer.

[KingDavid]

Bam has got to learn to hit 3s during the off-season. It's time.

[ThaFranchize84]

Gonna keep saying it - Nunn, Kelly and a 1st for VO

Problem is Indiana may not accept that. I agree with others here that are advocating for Cousins. He is a great low cost high reward one year option. If not then see what the price tag is for someone like Aldridge. Maybe a first and KO? If not draft someone that can score the ball in the front court and run it back.


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[Rapaz]

A West Coast-based agent was making the point the other day that if the Heat weren’t already attractive enough to players, this postseason run will make them even more appealing, with convincing visual evidence that Miami is already a championship contender needing only one more piece to put them over the top.

“Look at what signing there has done for Jimmy Butler,” the agent said. “And on and on. They make players better. If I’m Giannis Antetokounmpo, I would be [interested].”

With ample Heat cap space awaiting in 2021, therein lies one of the upshots of this playoff run: Multiple agents - none associated with Giannis - spoke in recent days of how this playoff ride has made the Heat an even more alluring destination, combined with the usual appealing aspects (no state income tax, great weather; respected ownership and front office and coach; the franchise’s ability to maximize players’ talent).

The result is that the Heat could have a choice of All Stars in 2021, as opposed to trying to cajole one to come here.

“I think they are quite compelling to anyone,” longtime NBA agent Bill Neff said. “If I’m [a top free agent], I like the culture, the coach and the organization.”

Another agent who is involved in representing an All-Star player that’s expected to be a future Heat target put it this way in a text message, offered on condition of anonymity:

“First off, Miami has always been one of the most attractive franchises in the NBA; the history of players speaks for itself. If you’re not intimidated by the hard work or strict guidelines the culture requires, I think you have a very good chance of landing just about anyone.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article246269375.html

[twix2500]

Gonna keep saying it - Nunn, Kelly and a 1st for VO

Problem is Indiana may not accept that. I agree with others here that are advocating for Cousins. He is a great low cost high reward one year option. If not then see what the price tag is for someone like Aldridge. Maybe a first and KO? If not draft someone that can score the ball in the front court and run it back.


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Indy should take that and run. Oladipo has put out all the signs that he is not resigning. They are not going to get a superstar trade package for him. I would reduce the offer as Olynyk and a first for VO.

A player I mention before should also be in the mix, Dennis Schroder. Do something like Swap picks with OKC, Olynyk for Schroder. Then sign Gallinari or Ibaka. Resign Dragic

PG: Schroder - Dragic - Nunn
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson - Iggy
PF: Ibaka or Gallinari - Okpala
Ce: Adebayo - Leonard - Silva

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Another agent who is involved in representing an All-Star player that’s expected to be a future Heat target put it this way in a text message, offered on condition of anonymity:

“First off, Miami has always been one of the most attractive franchises in the NBA; the history of players speaks for itself. If you’re not intimidated by the hard work or strict guidelines the culture requires, I think you have a very good chance of landing just about anyone.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article246269375.html

Hmm does this mean a 2020 All-Star who's expected to be a future Heat target? Would this be Lowry? Because of the 2020 All-Stars, outside of Giannis, Lowry is the only name I've heard linked to Miami. Neither Beal or Dipo made the team this season

(My mans Gobert was a 2020 All-Star but I'm unaware of any Heat interest in him)

[ThaFranchize84]

Gonna keep saying it - Nunn, Kelly and a 1st for VO

Problem is Indiana may not accept that. I agree with others here that are advocating for Cousins. He is a great low cost high reward one year option. If not then see what the price tag is for someone like Aldridge. Maybe a first and KO? If not draft someone that can score the ball in the front court and run it back.


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Indy should take that and run. Oladipo has put out all the signs that he is not resigning. They are not going to get a superstar trade package for him. I would reduce the offer as Olynyk and a first for VO.

A player I mention before should also be in the mix, Dennis Schroder. Do something like Swap picks with OKC, Olynyk for Schroder. Then sign Gallinari or Ibaka. Resign Dragic

PG: Schroder - Dragic - Nunn
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson - Iggy
PF: Ibaka or Gallinari - Okpala
Ce: Adebayo - Leonard - Silva

As a Heat fan I wish Indy would accept that deal. I am just saying the few times I proposed it on the general board that is the feedback I got. Means nothing in real life and probably is the case of one team overvaluing their player and undervaluing the other teams. We will see. To me you don’t do anything to jeopardize 2021. Trade for a guy on a one year deal or take a flier on someone whose market is diminished that fits in our system. We need another scorer for sure.


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