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Re: Bulls Covid related stuff: Lonzo, Bradley, McKinnie, Donovan in protocol
I work in a local restaurant and am testing myself weekly. I honestly have no idea what we'll do if it runs through the staff. Even one guy taking off a random Wednesday is an issue there. Our staff is tiny, half of them have had the same shifts, section, etc for years, so any rocking of the boat is tough. Staffing in December was nigh impossible.
We'll legitimately have to close for a couple days, but our owner is a hyper right wing anti-mask, Muh Freedums type. He is angry enough with the world that i am convinced he'd tell us to keep showing up and don't tell anyone. One of our absolute best regulars died of Covid a year ago, and that (and the dozens of other stories from customers friends and family regarding hard symptoms) haven't swayed him much.
So when - not if - Omicron runs through our suburban area, I'm already prepared to take that week off, to the absolute ruination of the place. "Closed this weekend because we all got Covid" is a terrible thing to hang on our front door, but I think it's inevitable. We hae some at-risk older staff whom I'm concerned for even more than my simply losing a week of tips. More and more people are writing off Covid as something on its way out, etc etc, but its ramifications are still very real.
We'll legitimately have to close for a couple days, but our owner is a hyper right wing anti-mask, Muh Freedums type. He is angry enough with the world that i am convinced he'd tell us to keep showing up and don't tell anyone. One of our absolute best regulars died of Covid a year ago, and that (and the dozens of other stories from customers friends and family regarding hard symptoms) haven't swayed him much.
So when - not if - Omicron runs through our suburban area, I'm already prepared to take that week off, to the absolute ruination of the place. "Closed this weekend because we all got Covid" is a terrible thing to hang on our front door, but I think it's inevitable. We hae some at-risk older staff whom I'm concerned for even more than my simply losing a week of tips. More and more people are writing off Covid as something on its way out, etc etc, but its ramifications are still very real.
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Now Caruso is in protocol. Well I think it’s good so he can heal completely and not rush back
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Oh ffs. And he was about ready to return too! Looks like he might miss our next two games (5 days), and hopefully be back for the back to back vs Detroit and Brooklyn next week.
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Chi town wrote:As others have said it’s really hard to get an at home test for get tested here in Bay Area without long waits.
Same in Chicago, it's a forever wait for testing and no at-home tests at Walgreens, CVS, etc. But my wife has been getting rapid delivery when ordering online from Walmart.
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madvillian wrote:FriedRise wrote:
Our team has been hit pretty hard by COVID. #2 on the list according to Fansure in terms of number of player days missed (~240). Lucky that it only cost us 2 Ls, but hopefully those make-up games won't hit us too hard in terms of fatigue. At least we'll be playing with almost a full roster for most of it.
That is an incredible visualization of how disparate the outcomes for COVID have been in the league. Honestly looking at that graph it's hard to take this regular season that seriously. There are teams like Chicago that have missed 10x the minutes of the teams towards the bottom of the list.
It really puts in perspective just how amazing this season has been for us. We have no business being as good as we are, given the amount of time our players have missed due to COVID. Whatever happens at the end of the season, whether we win it all or get bounced in the first round, this is definitely going to be one of those seasons that will be remembered for a long time by Chicago fans.
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Oh FFS. Unfortunately it was entirely predictable. Should have done this while he was rehabbing his foot. Get better soon, AC.
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ImSlower wrote:I work in a local restaurant and am testing myself weekly. I honestly have no idea what we'll do if it runs through the staff. Even one guy taking off a random Wednesday is an issue there. Our staff is tiny, half of them have had the same shifts, section, etc for years, so any rocking of the boat is tough. Staffing in December was nigh impossible.
We'll legitimately have to close for a couple days, but our owner is a hyper right wing anti-mask, Muh Freedums type. He is angry enough with the world that i am convinced he'd tell us to keep showing up and don't tell anyone. One of our absolute best regulars died of Covid a year ago, and that (and the dozens of other stories from customers friends and family regarding hard symptoms) haven't swayed him much.
So when - not if - Omicron runs through our suburban area, I'm already prepared to take that week off, to the absolute ruination of the place. "Closed this weekend because we all got Covid" is a terrible thing to hang on our front door, but I think it's inevitable. We hae some at-risk older staff whom I'm concerned for even more than my simply losing a week of tips. More and more people are writing off Covid as something on its way out, etc etc, but its ramifications are still very real.
If he does that, report him to whatever health board/agency you can. No one should be put at risk because some dickwad values profit over people's lives.
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GoBlue72391 wrote:madvillian wrote:FriedRise wrote:
Our team has been hit pretty hard by COVID. #2 on the list according to Fansure in terms of number of player days missed (~240). Lucky that it only cost us 2 Ls, but hopefully those make-up games won't hit us too hard in terms of fatigue. At least we'll be playing with almost a full roster for most of it.
That is an incredible visualization of how disparate the outcomes for COVID have been in the league. Honestly looking at that graph it's hard to take this regular season that seriously. There are teams like Chicago that have missed 10x the minutes of the teams towards the bottom of the list.
It really puts in perspective just how amazing this season has been for us. We have no business being as good as we are, given the amount of time our players have missed due to COVID. Whatever happens at the end of the season, whether we win it all or get bounced in the first round, this is definitely going to be one of those seasons that will be remembered for a long time by Chicago fans.
We actually are first in the league in player-days lost to Covid for this season. The above chart shows the numbers for the last two seasons combined. Below is the chart that breaks it down by season, with the chart on the right being 2021-22. The tweeter is a Celtics fan, but the charts list all the teams.
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Ice Man wrote:Chi town wrote:As others have said it’s really hard to get an at home test for get tested here in Bay Area without long waits.
Same in Chicago, it's a forever wait for testing and no at-home tests at Walgreens, CVS, etc. But my wife has been getting rapid delivery when ordering online from Walmart.
I got tested on Dec. 21 and had to wait in my car for nearly 5 hours before they called me in, and I actually had an appointment, I wasn't just a random walk-in. None of my family have been able to get tested after trying since before Christmas. It's crazy.
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madvillian wrote:FriedRise wrote:
Our team has been hit pretty hard by COVID. #2 on the list according to Fansure in terms of number of player days missed (~240). Lucky that it only cost us 2 Ls, but hopefully those make-up games won't hit us too hard in terms of fatigue. At least we'll be playing with almost a full roster for most of it.
That is an incredible visualization of how disparate the outcomes for COVID have been in the league. Honestly looking at that graph it's hard to take this regular season that seriously. There are teams like Chicago that have missed 10x the minutes of the teams towards the bottom of the list.
This is a terrible graph. 50% of our graph is probably 10 day guys who got it and never suited up.
A much better graph than days per player, would be average total minutes missed (ie, taking a player's average MPG and applying it to the number of games he missed).
Since the Bulls had 3 games canceled, even though they had a lot of player/covid days, they didn't miss nearly as many games as many other teams, and lots of those days were meaningless. This graph would depict the Bulls as one of the worst situations, but in practicality, we are probably one of the better ones due to us getting cancellations where most of our guys were out and having so many of those days being on relatively meaningless players.
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dougthonus wrote:Since the Bulls had 3 games canceled, even though they had a lot of player/covid days, they didn't miss nearly as many games as many other teams, and lots of those days were meaningless. This graph would depict the Bulls as one of the worst situations, but in practicality, we are probably one of the better ones due to us getting cancellations where most of our guys were out and having so many of those days being on relatively meaningless players.
Yep. The Bulls have not had more than one of DeMar, Zach, Lonzo, and Vooch missing from a game this season. Staggering the missing games among the key players is more important than missing several role players at once.
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dougthonus wrote:madvillian wrote:FriedRise wrote:
Our team has been hit pretty hard by COVID. #2 on the list according to Fansure in terms of number of player days missed (~240). Lucky that it only cost us 2 Ls, but hopefully those make-up games won't hit us too hard in terms of fatigue. At least we'll be playing with almost a full roster for most of it.
That is an incredible visualization of how disparate the outcomes for COVID have been in the league. Honestly looking at that graph it's hard to take this regular season that seriously. There are teams like Chicago that have missed 10x the minutes of the teams towards the bottom of the list.
This is a terrible graph. 50% of our graph is probably 10 day guys who got it and never suited up.
A much better graph than days per player, would be average total minutes missed (ie, taking a player's average MPG and applying it to the number of games he missed).
Since the Bulls had 3 games canceled, even though they had a lot of player/covid days, they didn't miss nearly as many games as many other teams, and lots of those days were meaningless. This graph would depict the Bulls as one of the worst situations, but in practicality, we are probably one of the better ones due to us getting cancellations where most of our guys were out and having so many of those days being on relatively meaningless players.
Damnit Doug I was trying to throw a pity party for us get out of here with your reason.
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I'll go ahead and make a sig bet that Mikal is better by RPM this year than Zach.
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bad knees wrote:Oh FFS. Unfortunately it was entirely predictable. Should have done this while he was rehabbing his foot. Get better soon, AC.
I'd love to see that conversation
Donovan: AC it looks like you are going to be out a couple of weeks with that foot injury, why don't you come over to my house and let me cough on you a few times so we can get you through COVID too
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At least AC will be fully healed from hammy and foot, that can both linger. I'll be optimistic he's back in 5 days.
If there's a positive, it's that Coby will continue to get more minutes and continue his strong performance and that McKinnie might have more of a chance to integrate with the team. He's a guy who may be a rotation player after the deadline.
If there's a positive, it's that Coby will continue to get more minutes and continue his strong performance and that McKinnie might have more of a chance to integrate with the team. He's a guy who may be a rotation player after the deadline.

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umfan83 wrote:bad knees wrote:Oh FFS. Unfortunately it was entirely predictable. Should have done this while he was rehabbing his foot. Get better soon, AC.
I'd love to see that conversation
Donovan: AC it looks like you are going to be out a couple of weeks with that foot injury, why don't you come over to my house and let me cough on you a few times so we can get you through COVID too
No need for any conversation. I was talking about AC doing his own personal risk/benefit calculation. The chances of him getting through Omicron and whatever comes after it without catching Covid were very slim.
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GoBlue72391 wrote:Ice Man wrote:Chi town wrote:As others have said it’s really hard to get an at home test for get tested here in Bay Area without long waits.
Same in Chicago, it's a forever wait for testing and no at-home tests at Walgreens, CVS, etc. But my wife has been getting rapid delivery when ordering online from Walmart.
I got tested on Dec. 21 and had to wait in my car for nearly 5 hours before they called me in, and I actually had an appointment, I wasn't just a random walk-in. None of my family have been able to get tested after trying since before Christmas. It's crazy.
5 hours waiting in your car for a test? That's insane. The govt. just has not done a good job of keeping ahead of this thing- or maybe it's the manufacturers, I don't know which. We should have been stockpiling tests in all these months when it had waned, knowing something like this would come along.
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Given that Omicron is so much milder, I wonder what kind of added immunity you acquire, if any, after having it?
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FriedRise wrote:
Oh ffs. And he was about ready to return too! Looks like he might miss our next two games (5 days), and hopefully be back for the back to back vs Detroit and Brooklyn next week.
Good he can heal up more
Jcool0 wrote:aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?
If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.
NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
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6 days isn't to long. it will be a nice relief for his body. I cant believe that im pumped up for bradley to come back. thats how small we are in the paint. just his size and weight is something to look forward to.
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Any word in Tyler cook?
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