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Post#365 » by batterybro42 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:01 pm

I did not buy the JJJ and Spo's wife thing when I first saw it

Then she dropped a video trying to deny it

She's an insane person and a very bad liar, poor Spo needs to move on, she seems like a real piece of work. JJJ should be traded this summer, and his season now makes complete sense to me. Hard for me not to believe this actually happened now, given just how bad and disingenuous her video trying to deny it looked. What a wild year for Spo and the Heat. Need to get into the offseason and hit the reset on everything.
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Post#366 » by Daffy » Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:01 pm

This pick could be very crucial in the next direction of the franchise. Get lucky hit on rookie with franchjse potential and follow the 2026 plan and add a legit game changer in FA. Other option is trade the pick plus whatever else for a star now.
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Post#367 » by Daffy » Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:03 pm

batterybro42 wrote:I did not buy the JJJ and Spo's wife thing when I first saw it

Then she dropped a video trying to deny it

She's an insane person and a very bad liar, poor Spo needs to move on, she seems like a real piece of work. JJJ should be traded this summer, and his season now makes complete sense to me. Hard for me not to believe this actually happened now, given just how bad and disingenuous her video trying to deny it looked. What a wild year for Spo and the Heat. Need to get into the offseason and hit the reset on everything.


I'm just curious. Have you ever seen her really talk much before to really tell if she's a bad liar or not?
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Post#371 » by Daffy » Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:28 pm

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Sharing for those who understand, we’ll see how things continue to trend. I do have a take on Wiggins I’ll keep to myself until we see what the plan is this summer :o


I think this says more about Miami's system vs Wiggins. Weren't GS more productive with him on thr court vs off during his time with them? Numbers alone don't always tell the full story.
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Post#372 » by batterybro42 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:33 pm

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batterybro42 wrote:I did not buy the JJJ and Spo's wife thing when I first saw it

Then she dropped a video trying to deny it

She's an insane person and a very bad liar, poor Spo needs to move on, she seems like a real piece of work. JJJ should be traded this summer, and his season now makes complete sense to me. Hard for me not to believe this actually happened now, given just how bad and disingenuous her video trying to deny it looked. What a wild year for Spo and the Heat. Need to get into the offseason and hit the reset on everything.


I'm just curious. Have you ever seen her really talk much before to really tell if she's a bad liar or not?


No but I am familiar with the type of lady we are dealing with here. Just my take with the information available. I had zero idea who this woman was prior to seeing any of this.
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Post#373 » by greg4012 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:56 pm

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Sharing for those who understand, we’ll see how things continue to trend. I do have a take on Wiggins I’ll keep to myself until we see what the plan is this summer :o


I think this says more about Miami's system vs Wiggins. Weren't GS more productive with him on thr court vs off during his time with them? Numbers alone don't always tell the full story.


The story is the rate at which you can summon up efficient offense on the ball. Wiggins is a great athlete that can do a little bit of everything (jack of all trades). But, all of the stuff he does on-ball he does at a below average to average level of efficiency. So while giving Wiggins more reps (and relying on him more) in an onball capacity will generate more raw output for him it's not really helping a team keep up with average or above average NBA offense in terms of rate of scoring. It's a similar issue with Bam and why we all know he's not a primary scoring option for a quality team (Wiggins doesn't have the same benefit of doing everything else at such a high level).

Over the past 3 seasons, this is Wiggins points per possession by playtype:

P&R Ballhandler: 0.86 ppp; 0.91 ppp; 0.65 ppp
Post-up: 1 ppp; 0.97 ppp; 1.02 ppp
Spot-up: 1.12 ppp; 1.04 ppp; 0.97 ppp
Handoff: 1.04 ppp; 0.97 ppp; 1.03 ppp
Cut: 1.36 ppp; 1.29 ppp; 1.43 ppp
Off-screen: 1.17; 0.85; 1.4 ppp
Iso: 0.96; 0.89; 0.63

As you can see above, the only category where Wiggins is really plus efficiency is as a cutter. The next best play-types that serve him best are Off-Screen, Spot-up, and handoff. Each of those are primarily off-ball functions that result from a look or play being set up for the player. Miami is the most deficient team in the NBA in terms of playsetters.
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Post#374 » by VaDe255 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:58 pm

You really shouldn't argue with on / off numbers when it comes to Bam, if you want to make him look good. He always sucked without an elite shot creator out there with him:

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And this is not some tiny sample size that you have with Wiggins, this is over the last 4 years of play!
The offense with Bam and some role players always sucked.
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Post#375 » by greg4012 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 6:01 pm

VaDe255 wrote:You really shouldn't argue with on / off numbers when it comes to Bam, if you want to make him look good. He always sucked without an elite shot creator out there with him:

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And this is not some tiny sample size that you have with Wiggins, this is over the last 4 years of play!
The offense with Bam and some role players always sucked.


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Post#376 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Mon Mar 24, 2025 6:11 pm

Only thing I'm gonna say about the Spo ex thing is social media was a mistake, 30 years ago we wouldn't even know this person existed and now they have an entire industry propped up by these parasitic clout chasers. Also plastic surgery was a mistake.
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Post#377 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Mar 24, 2025 6:33 pm

VaDe255 wrote:You really shouldn't argue with on / off numbers when it comes to Bam, if you want to make him look good. He always sucked without an elite shot creator out there with him:

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And this is not some tiny sample size that you have with Wiggins, this is over the last 4 years of play!
The offense with Bam and some role players always sucked.


Who was using on/off statistics to prop up Bam? Was it in another thread or something?

Spo uses Bam the same whether those guys are on the floor or not, just a hub for the offense spamming screens and DHOs. Are you referring to Tyler as an elite shot creator?
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