Fake Trade Thread #7

JustBuzzin · Post #361 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:38 pm

I actually don't mind a Beal trade. He can still score at a high level. We need guys who can put the ball in the basket.

Its not a long-term commitment.

HornetJail · Post #362 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:41 pm

it also doesn't matter if we had interest in Beal because he's not approving a trade to come here unless we're buying him out so that he can sign with a contender/pretender for the MLE

Jeff Peterson might honestly want to tank long enough to do that, but i hate it

LofJ · Post #363 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:44 pm

If this team plans to tank 2 more years we are worse than the process 76'ers. Adam Silver would be justified making an example of us to dissuade other teams.

JMAC3 · Post #364 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:50 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:I actually don't mind a Beal trade. He can still score at a high level. We need guys who can put the ball in the basket.

Its not a long-term commitment.

53 million and 57 million the next two years is a long commitment to me.
Suns best two assets are 29th pick in this draft and a late first in 2027.

We could send Green, Grant and Nurkic to them but I would assume they just buy out or stretch Nurkic. I doubt the Suns even want to spend their last assets on basically getting back two bench players who are overpaid.

Hornets would have no cap space for the next two years and it would eliminate a lot of our trade flexibility because you aren't going to be able to reflip Beal.

That would leave Bridges as our only tradable contract moving forward.

JustBuzzin · Post #365 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:06 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:I actually don't mind a Beal trade. He can still score at a high level. We need guys who can put the ball in the basket.

Its not a long-term commitment.

53 million and 57 million the next two years is a long commitment to me.
Suns best two assets are 29th pick in this draft and a late first in 2027.

We could send Green, Grant and Nurkic to them but I would assume they just buy out or stretch Nurkic. I doubt the Suns even want to spend their last assets on basically getting back two bench players who are overpaid.

Hornets would have no cap space for the next two years and it would eliminate a lot of our trade flexibility because you aren't going to be able to reflip Beal.

That would leave Bridges as our only tradable contract moving forward.

I think Beal can give us a legit shot at the playoffs the next 2 years. What we are basically trading is junk for a player who can still get you 20ppg and get his own shot without the help of LaMelo.

We still have our draft picks moving forward. I don't view this as a terrible move. Not something I would push for, but I can live with it if we did pursue it.

JMAC3 · Post #366 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:09 pm

Beal is terrible, there is a reason the Suns are trying to trade him so badly.
If he didn't help the Suns make the playoffs last year I don't buy into the fact that he somehow is helping us do that.

LofJ · Post #367 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:20 pm

There are only two teams that should have any interest in Beal. The Bucks for Lillard, and back to the Wizards so they can consolidate bad contracts and free up roster spots.

JMAC3 · Post #368 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:24 pm

LofJ wrote:There are only two teams that should have any interest in Beal. The Bucks for Lillard, and back to the Wizards so they can consolidate bad contracts and free up roster spots.

It is much better to have 3 contracts at 15 million then one at 55 million though, you can't move the 55 million contract. The Hornets could move the Josh Green contract if they really wanted to pretty easily.

LofJ · Post #369 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:30 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
LofJ wrote:There are only two teams that should have any interest in Beal. The Bucks for Lillard, and back to the Wizards so they can consolidate bad contracts and free up roster spots.

It is much better to have 3 contracts at 15 million then one at 55 million though, you can't move the 55 million contract. The Hornets could move the Josh Green contract if they really wanted to pretty easily.

It's definitely better to have several mid-size contracts like we currently have. But the Wizards still don't have a player to build around so they'll be tanking again next season. They could possibly get something for Middleton if he's healthy next year, but they aren't getting anything for Poole and Smart. If I were them I'd value the extra roster spot and more playing time to evaluate younger players.

JustBuzzin · Post #370 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:33 pm

Tanking is no longer a thing. If you're tanking after the draft lottery we just witnessed then you're just not a serious basketball franchise.

Tanking for what? Ask the Jazz/Wizards how that worked out.

Post #371 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:54 pm

No matter how you look at this most likely fake rumor it just makes zero sense.

Like jmac said
1. Beal is terrible. Doesn't care. Barely plays
2. 3 medium contracts much better for future trades than beals massive 50 million contract. No one else is touching that, unless they genuinely believe they can rehab His Image next year and flip him for an asset.
3. He has a no trade clause. Why would he waive it to come play on the hornets? Unless he just really loves Miller and nsj that much from their AAU team
4. The suns have nothing to offer that they haven't already given us. Are we really going to pay $100 million dollars for a future first round pick?

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Post #372 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:59 pm

The only way this makes sense is if they genuinely believe you get Beal in here for a while... for a full season. Pump up his stats to rehab his value and then try to flip him again next summer when he only has 1 yr left. That's a huge Gamble. It worked with OKC with Chris Paul and Al Horford but those two were top shelf professionals who obviously still had a lot left.

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Post #373 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:00 pm

Read on Twitter

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Basically this. But I still had to post it just to show you what was floating out there in the Hornets ethernet today.

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Post #374 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:11 pm

We couldn't trade for him anyway unless we traded Miles + Green + something else to make the contracts add up.

And that is obviously nuts.

Post #375 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:17 pm

JDR720 wrote:We couldn't trade for him anyway unless we traded Miles + Green + something else to make the contracts add up.

And that is obviously nuts.

would basically have to be

nurk
okogie
green
grant

id much rather have the depth than anything suns could give

MasterIchiro · Post #376 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:06 am

I would never trade for Beal even if he would waive for a small market team which isn't really a thing and no front office can will it into existence.

Beal is a big reason the Suns will concede their busted hand.

Paul George is a different story.

I just feel Jrue is more reliable. Not glamorous but also a smaller contract that's easier to fit than Beal or Paul George. Tobias Harris is about to turn 33. Jrue will be 35. Are those ages really different in the basketball world?

I feel like trading for Jrue or upgrading Nurkic using draft capital is more realistic than trading up for Harper or trading back for Jaku or whatever under-the-radar prospect.

But that's not going to generate discussion and fan interest in your podcast.

Keep it simple.

JustBuzzin · Post #377 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:52 am

I feel confident we could get Paul George for Bridges+ Nurkic.

MasterIchiro · Post #378 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 7, 2025 4:04 am

JustBuzzin wrote:I feel confident we could get Paul George for Bridges+ Nurkic.

Considering (11) 1st round picks + (12) 2nd round picks, we are going to need to budget for auditions. A huge contract limits our depth and makes it harder to win while developing prospects who keep down costs.

Post #379 » by **Diop** » Sat Jun 7, 2025 4:08 am

the Beal thing doesn't even fit what the front office are trying to do unless we are getting 1st round picks with him.

i've chatted to a lot of Phoenix fans about him who say he isn't terrible just isn't worth his contract and doesn't fit with Booker and Durant.
he would still be the best shooting guard Charlotte have had for years.

which is why it doesn't make sense with what the front office has been saying, it would make the team marginally better but also restrict future movement.
it feels more like an MJ move than anything.

JustBuzzin · Post #380 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Jun 7, 2025 5:30 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:I feel confident we could get Paul George for Bridges+ Nurkic.

Considering (11) 1st round picks + (12) 2nd round picks, we are going to need to budget for auditions. A huge contract limits our depth and makes it harder to win while developing prospects who keep down costs.

I view PG as a legit piece for a playoff push.

I think he's the best vet of the names being mentioned from Jrue/Beal and he can help mentor Miller while also helping us make a run for the playoffs.

Hell maybe we draft Ace Bailey now he can teach both our young wings. If he plays well we can ship him off to a contender or just keep him if he's found a home for the rest of his contract.