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Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:38 pm
by JN
Boogie! wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Boogie! wrote:Where’s the right handed bat

Ty France who has been bad for years

Fire them now


Didn’t realize he was that **** I remember he was an allstar years ago. So underwhelming. Thought a first place team would be hitting homers at the deadline. But I guess it’s fitting that we’re just going for singles.


Detroit, Houston, Mets, Milwaukee, and Dodgers are the first place teams
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I believe only the Mets really did much, most of the others worked around the fringes like us … could be wrong though as I haven’t seeing any of the moves that have come in since 5:50 other than ours. So may have missed something big.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:39 pm
by vaff87
Brinbe wrote:eh, I think it was fine. they don't have the type of farm system to completely go all-in/gut it and take on more risk prospect-wise like other teams, especially when the asking price for what they were after was probably insane. the major thing was backing up the pen and they did it at a reasonable cost.

they do have varsho/springer back and kirk soon enough too. and maybe santander as well sometime in august or sept.

it's gonna be on the team to keep playing like they did in june/july and they can certainly do it or at least keep their head above water.


Also Gimenez is close to returning.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:40 pm
by PushDaRock
StopitLeo wrote:
SaveTheHens wrote:
Mehar wrote:Not impressed by Ty France. He was released twice in 2024, and is not the same player he once was. Anyone could have signed him in the off-season, and the Twins signed him for a million bucks. When it is all said and done, Yankees will be leading the AL East. Very impressed what they did at the deadline today.

Better bullpen, starting pitch and offense on paper than the Jays. Everyone goes through a rough patch, and when Judge comes back next week- I expect the Yankees to take off. Disappointed overall with the Jays moves. The moves were okay, but I wish they could have made a bigger splash. Bednar went for a very reasonable price to New York. Other guys also that they could have targeted.


I mean I'm not impressed if this was our prized bat, but it's much less awful than us letting go of Wagner and leaving that spot open. End of the day I think France fits better than Wagner so I don't mind getting him, especially when I thought the deadline was already over & we just dilly dallied.


I can't imagine they think Ty France is the big RH bat. I suspect they are counting on Santander for that.


Yeah, he's basically a break the glass option and they wanted another right handed bat that role with so many left handed hitters on the team. I think he was just a throw in basically, not someone that was targeted.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:41 pm
by WaltFrazier
Brinbe wrote:eh, I think it was fine. they don't have the type of farm system to completely go all-in/gut it and take on more risk prospect-wise like other teams, especially when the asking price for what they were after was probably insane. the major thing was backing up the pen and they did it at a reasonable cost.

they do have varsho/springer back and kirk soon enough too. and maybe santander as well sometime in august or sept.

it's gonna be on the team to keep playing like they did in june/july and they can certainly do it or at least keep their head above water.


Any chance of Manoah coming back and contributing this season?

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:41 pm
by WuTang_OG
Honestly i think the jays did pretty good. Def a B+ from me. They got priorities of pitching both SL and relievers while not depleting ur farm.

Playoffs are a crap shoot u cant leverage urself especially with us being older team and pending free agents like Bo.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:42 pm
by dagger
Also might get Manoah back. Anyway pen is better, Beiber if he gets all the way back makes rotation better and deeper.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:43 pm
by JCP11
Let's hope Popkins can help France rediscover his swing, he used to be a damn good hitter.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:46 pm
by Tripod
So who is going to get sent down for outfielders?

Davis or Loper?

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:49 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Tripod wrote:So who is going to get sent down for outfielders?

Davis or Loper?

Loperfido would go long before Davis, they lack RHBs

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:50 pm
by WuTang_OG
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Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:50 pm
by Randle McMurphy
vaff87 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
vaff87 wrote:
Really hope he works out. Not a big fan of giving up Rojas and Rodon. But there is Ty France to fall back on…

Don’t think Roden had much value at his age.


True. And he was behind Loperfido at this point.

I think he’s a fringe platoon outfielder in the bigs at best, like a Reed Johnson from the left side. Not very valuable.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:51 pm
by JN
France was probably more of a throw in than anything as the Jays at least wanted a RHB as an option to bat #6-#9 vs left handers if they couldn't find more of a core lineup piece. They didn't seem to have anything realistic at the AAA level for that. As a throw in, I'll take it, for new he fits a small role

He could also stink for two or 3 weeks in his limited playing time, and be a quick release like Paul DeJong.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:52 pm
by Randle McMurphy
WaltFrazier wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:This deadline was a B max.

Could've easily been an A

Pretty upsetting that we couldn't acquire a single big name (Bieber doesn't count), given that we're in contention.


Agreee I thought for sure we’d go after a big name. We struck out on all of them. All of the rivals got them. Freaks me out. Reminds me of 2015 when the blue jays were only 500 but went all in for tulo and price and then leapfrogged the Yankees for number 1.

Now we’re number 1 but all the teams under us like Yankees and mariners made heavy moves and now look better


Blair and Barker had David Price on the show this afternoon. Reliving the trade, his famous drive from Detroit to Toronto, his Rogers center debut with the crowd going crazy. He went 9-1 with about 2.30 ERA. Jays went from a few games back to running away with the pennant. Price was affable and well spoken, loved the Jays and the fans and the city (I know, he left, but sounded sincere. )

I still remember the excitement of that deadline, and that team. Blair said something I'd forgotten about, he opined that if Brett Cecil didn't get hurt that team would have won the WS.

Alcides still hits .500 against us even with Cecil, the 2015 Royals had devil magic

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:53 pm
by JaysRule15
WuTang_OG wrote:Honestly i think the jays did pretty good. Def a B+ from me. They got priorities of pitching both SL and relievers while not depleting ur farm.

Playoffs are a crap shoot u cant leverage urself especially with us being older team and pending free agents like Bo.


Yup. People are forgetting that we only really started seeing success with our farm this year with prospects taking a step forward. We didn't have the depth that some of these other teams had to make the overpay trades. The fact we were able to to make some decent adds without losing too much talent off the top of the farm is a good accomplishment.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:53 pm
by Randle McMurphy
JN wrote:France was probably more of a throw in than anything as the Jays at least wanted a RHB as an option to bat #6-#9 vs left handers if they couldn't find more of a core lineup piece. They didn't seem to have anything realistic at the AAA level for that. As a throw in, I'll take it, for new he fits a small role

He could also stink for two or 3 weeks in his limited playing time, and be a quick release like Paul DeJong.

His Statcast numbers suggest he might have been getting a bit unlucky this year. I guess we’ll see.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:55 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Madvillainy2004 wrote:We couldn't find a RH bat that had like over a .700 OPS vs lefties lmao I thought France had strong splits at least lmao

Yankees’ acquisition of Slater would have made far more sense for this team imo

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:55 pm
by Boogie!
If manoah comes back I’m guessing he’s in the bullpen?

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:55 pm
by Brinbe
WaltFrazier wrote:
Brinbe wrote:eh, I think it was fine. they don't have the type of farm system to completely go all-in/gut it and take on more risk prospect-wise like other teams, especially when the asking price for what they were after was probably insane. the major thing was backing up the pen and they did it at a reasonable cost.

they do have varsho/springer back and kirk soon enough too. and maybe santander as well sometime in august or sept.

it's gonna be on the team to keep playing like they did in june/july and they can certainly do it or at least keep their head above water.


Any chance of Manoah coming back and contributing this season?

he's working in the minors right now and rehabbing so I guess it depends on how he progresses there over the next few months. kinda the same boat as bieber

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:55 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Boogie! wrote:If manoah comes back I’m guessing he’s in the bullpen?

Minors barring injury to the MLB starters.

Re: MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:57 pm
by Mehar
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Tripod wrote:So who is going to get sent down for outfielders?

Davis or Loper?

Loperfido would go long before Davis, they lack RHBs

With the way Loperfido has performed this month overall with his very good offensive numbers- he is my everyday LF. Schneider has sucked hitting Righties and Lefties this past month. He can pack his bags back to Buffalo. All hype because of his one great month in 2023. He sucked last year also, and is terrible again in all of July.