Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[Onus]

I think he signs the QO if the Warriors don’t offer him a different contract than what’s already on the table.

I hope he does because I love it when people stand on principles and not let money run them. But I don't think there are a lot of people like that, let alone willing to walk away from 25+M over 2 years.

What exactly is the principle though? They're saying Kuminga will sign if the Warriors guarantee him more money.

That I want to be off the Warriors and you can't pay me 25+M over 2 years to keep me.

[Twinkie defense]

I'm really not sure why there's a 3 year deal on the table. It really should just be 2 year deal.

3 years guaranteed is Warriors counter to Kuminga asking for a player option instead of a team option - "how about no option then?"

[Twinkie defense]

Original options:
1 year QO, small salary
1 year, big salary + second year team option

Kuminga didn't like those - not because of the contract starting amount, but because of the options and salary guarantees. So Warriors offered more options:

2 years, big salary + third year team option
3 years, medium salary, everything guaranteed / no options

Kuminga has the QO and a quick path to free agency, or he has three offers from the Warriors to choose from.

I think those are fair offers. They aren't below market. And it's not just one deal, take it or leave it which the Warriors could have done.

[Twinkie defense]

I hope he does because I love it when people stand on principles and not let money run them. But I don't think there are a lot of people like that, let alone willing to walk away from 25+M over 2 years.

What exactly is the principle though? They're saying Kuminga will sign if the Warriors guarantee him more money.

That I want to be off the Warriors and you can't pay me 25+M over 2 years to keep me.

"But pay me 3/$75M and I'm good!"

[Onus]

I'm really not sure why there's a 3 year deal on the table. It really should just be 2 year deal.

3 years guaranteed is Warriors counter to Kuminga asking for a player option instead of a team option - "how about no option then?"

Yea just get rid of all the options 2/45, though JK would've made more on the 3/75 even if they didn't pick up the 3rd year.

[Onus]

What exactly is the principle though? They're saying Kuminga will sign if the Warriors guarantee him more money.

That I want to be off the Warriors and you can't pay me 25+M over 2 years to keep me.

"But pay me 3/$75M and I'm good!"

Yea I don't think JK is principled which is why I've never took his threat to sign the qo was ever serious.

[Onus]

JK really going to wait until tomorrow praying for a miracle from Lacob

[Jerry Maine]

Kuminga taking the QO, playing selfish and getting benched by Kerr will not help him get paid anymore than he would by taking one of the offers on the table. The warriors have him wedged. The only benefit is freedom to choose where he goes next, and those teams with cap space will potentially diminish and not all be to his liking. I don't see why the Dubs need to be any more generous with their offers, he's not shown to be a two way player or have a feel for his teammates on offence or the defensive acumen to justify more than what's on the table. If he walks after taking the QO we lose a trade asset but not one that is currently retrieving anything of significant value. Unless he shows the ability to play team defence and/or involve his teammates we wouldn't be getting a whole lot back even if he signs one of the offers. I couldn't care less at this stage but my preference is he takes a deal and we get something back, even if of limited value.

Whatever

[Chris Porter's Hair]

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[Onus]

2/48.5

Not sure if there’s any options.

[Onus]

Looks like a team option so he signed the 1+1.

[Onus]

So 2 months of negotiation and he ends up with a little more than the original offer. Just under 1 million more the first year.

[statsman]

Hey, at least Kuminga will earn more *this* season than Giddey, by about $1M.

[DonaldSanders]

Knew he wouldn't sign the QO. I'm fine with this contract, and it sounds like we got a TO for the 2nd year? Will need to see the full details.

And no, Aaron did NOT turn the TO into a PO. Sorry Aaron, you whiffed on that one.

[Onus]

Guess Seth isn’t starting off with the team

[Onus]

Great a season long debate on what we will get for jk continues.

[DaHef]

Hey, at least Kuminga will earn more *this* season than Giddey, by about $1M.

Is there enough money left over to offer a 3.8m vet minimum to Westbrook? or are they going to give it to Steph's brother?

[statsman]

Knew he wouldn't sign the QO. I'm fine with this contract, and it sounds like we got a TO for the 2nd year? Will need to see the full details.

And no, Aaron did NOT turn the TO into a PO. Sorry Aaron, you whiffed on that one.

Shams says team option in the second year.

Read on Twitter

[Twinkie defense]

Well there you go!

Team option remains.

I always thought a 1+1 deal was the best for both parties - Kuminga makes much more than he would have under the QO and gets a pretty fast track to free agency. And Warriors get a trade slot they can trade for full 1:1 value before the trade deadline.

Hopefully Kuminga turns it around so he can contribute for the Warriors, net a good return for the team, and set up his next contract.

[statsman]

Hey, at least Kuminga will earn more *this* season than Giddey, by about $1M.

Is there enough money left over to offer a 3.8m vet minimum to Westbrook? or are they going to give it to Steph's brother?

Neither. They won't have enough money left over unless Horford is taking a discount, which I highly doubt. They'll go with 14 players until later in the season.

If they hadn't signed Will Richard, they could have added Seth or some other vet minimum.