Official #2 Pick Thread - Ford #7: Parker

[Frank Nova]

And I'd really like to know what u saw in detail to make u come to that conclusion. .

I'm not coming to conclusions. But if Jabari ends up being a 4, he's got a fair amount of craftiness and power potential in him under the hoop.

The only finesse part of Kemps game was his graceful leaping ability. His game was based off freakish athleticism. If Parker showed that type of Shawn Kemp athleticism he'd be consensus top pick and with his offensive prowess he'd be better suited for the SF position because he could dominate from the perimeter where he's already comfortable.

If Parker turns into a 4 in the pros, it's closer to a rich man Terrance Jones rather than anything Shawn Kemp related IMO. Not trying to be rude or condescending but that's just something I've never heard or thought until right now and I don't see it at all...

[Chapter29]

I don't see Kemp in Parker at all. Kemp was pure athlete. Parker not so much.

I see Parker as being quick and aggressive around the basket and with good length and creativity. His leaping ability is limited and his rise is mostly due to this length and quickness.

I think this aspect of his game will be reduced in the pros due to the competition and above the rim play.

I see no way defensively he is a SF in the NBA, doesn't have the quickness. He will get pushed around in the post but I guess you pick your poison with him on that end and I'd say I'd take my chances against PF's with the hope he could train and improve. You can't teach lateral quickness, but you can get stronger and smarter with position and technique under the basket.

[AntetokounmBros]

I keep flip-flopping on Wiggins and Parker. Part of me thinks Wiggins is riskier because he may never develop his skills as much as we'd like, and part of me wonders if Parker disappoints much like Derrick Williams (not comparing them as players, just as tweener types whose game didn't translate). I highly doubt Parker will struggle like Williams has, but there have been other guys who were the "safe" picks when they really weren't.

[pe_it72]

I just keep going back to what type of team do you want to build. If i'm about ticket and jersey sales I'm going with Parker.

If i want to build a team that can thrive in the playoffs. I want a two way stud who can give me amazing defense, floor spacing and ball movement.

I love both guys. I do. Just the eye on the prize side of me screams Embiid or WIggins.

[JayMKE]

I don't see Kemp in Parker at all. Kemp was pure athlete. Parker not so much.

I see Parker as being quick and aggressive around the basket and with good length and creativity. His leaping ability is limited and his rise is mostly due to this length and quickness.

I think this aspect of his game will be reduced in the pros due to the competition and above the rim play.

I see no way defensively he is a SF in the NBA, doesn't have the quickness. He will get pushed around in the post but I guess you pick your poison with him on that end and I'd say I'd take my chances against PF's with the hope he could train and improve. You can't teach lateral quickness, but you can get stronger and smarter with position and technique under the basket.

His leaping ability doesn't look limited to me. Wiggins having a monster vert doesn't mean that Parker is limited, dude can get up just fine.

[jakecronus8]

I just keep going back to what type of team do you want to build. If i'm about ticket and jersey sales I'm going with Parker.

If i want to build a team that can thrive in the playoffs. I want a two way stud who can give me amazing defense, floor spacing and ball movement.

I love both guys. I do. Just the eye on the prize side of me screams Embiid or WIggins.

Don't worry, Wiggins will sell just as many jerseys.

[pe_it72]

And I'd really like to know what u saw in detail to make u come to that conclusion. .

I'm not coming to conclusions. But if Jabari ends up being a 4, he's got a fair amount of craftiness and power potential in him under the hoop.

Parker is going to be a bull. He really is. I dont think he will ball stop as much as melo. But he is going to be a limited bull that won't be able to do what he wants every night against the elite.

[JayMKE]

Parker is 19, his body is going to mature a lot. I think in this regard you can compare him to Lebron, both were about the same size coming into the league.

[jakecronus8]

Parker is 19, his body is going to mature a lot. I think in this regard you can compare him to Lebron, both were about the same size coming into the league.

Say what now?

[Fort Minor]

Can someone illuminate me as to why people are comparing Parker to Paul Pierce? From what I saw at Duke, I don't think Parker will ever have the playmaking ability as a forward that Pierce had. I don't see Parker ever averaging 4.5+ assists per game in his prime. Is there a passing aspect to his game that I just don't know about, and that his place in Duke's system prevented him from showing?

[Licensed to Il]

Kemp was one of a kind, destroyed the Mavs in a scrimmage as a 18 year old. Unprecidented length and explosion, raw, but he was actually pretty crafty in the post. There are some actual playoff games of his on youtube, he had more moves than he is remembered for.

I don't see any simalarities to Kemp in Parker, fwiw. He reminds me of Big Dog at Purdue more than anyone else.

[Ayt]

I don't see why people compare Robinson and Parker since Parker's ball handling is about a billion times better. The ball is basically on a string for him with either hand and he loves to use various shoulder fakes and hesitation moves. There are very few players who are as natural with the ball in their hands at 6-9, 240. Parker moves like a guard with the ball in his hands. For Robinson, ball handling was a gigantic weakness.

DX has a new video up of Parker versus Gordon and Arizona. You can see his handle on display on many moves where he draws fouls. The baseline crossover was excellent, but you also see where he needs to work on his body so that he's able to finish that move instead of missing the contested layup.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jab ... QZFo5oHNjT

It wasn't a great game for Parker mainly because of the turnovers and the fact that his outside shot was not working that game.

[JayMKE]

Parker is 19, his body is going to mature a lot. I think in this regard you can compare him to Lebron, both were about the same size coming into the league.

Say what now?

Parker is a lil taller coming into the league, both about 245 probably. Parker has a lil bigger upper body and some more baby fat but both have really strong builds. Put Parker in an NBA weight room, he'll be a beast.

[skones]

Can someone illuminate me as to why people are comparing Parker to Paul Pierce? From what I saw at Duke, I don't think Parker will ever have the playmaking ability as a forward that Pierce had. I don't see Parker ever averaging 4.5+ assists per game in his prime. Is there a passing aspect to his game that I just don't know about, and that his place in Duke's system prevented him from showing?

Parkers passing was a strength coming into Duke, and some believe it was a skill which was hidden in Coach K's system with the role he was asked to play. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen, but I think, to a degree, there's reason for some optimism in that department.

[cinematographer]

Parker is 19, his body is going to mature a lot. I think in this regard you can compare him to Lebron, both were about the same size coming into the league.

Say what now?

Parker is a lil taller coming into the league, both about 245 probably. Parker has a lil bigger upper body and some more baby fat but both have really strong builds. Put Parker in an NBA weight room, he'll be a beast.

I mean, aren't you neglecting LeBron's orders-of-magnitude-greater athleticism?

[JayMKE]

I mean, aren't you neglecting LeBron's orders-of-magnitude-greater athleticism?

I thought that went without saying, Lebron is probably going to be the GOAT when it is all said and done with because of that. I was just comparing their builds, I think Parker can get a lot stronger.

[Baddy Chuck]

I think he sheds that little baby weight and compares to

[JayMKE]

Jabari is already bigger and stronger than Jamison

[Fort Minor]

Can someone illuminate me as to why people are comparing Parker to Paul Pierce? From what I saw at Duke, I don't think Parker will ever have the playmaking ability as a forward that Pierce had. I don't see Parker ever averaging 4.5+ assists per game in his prime. Is there a passing aspect to his game that I just don't know about, and that his place in Duke's system prevented him from showing?

Parkers passing was a strength coming into Duke, and some believe it was a skill which was hidden in Coach K's system with the role he was asked to play. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen, but I think, to a degree, there's reason for some optimism in that department.

Thanks! That's the info I was looking for.

[KingCammo]

I dont think Parker should be in our discussion.

If the Cavs draft Wiggins, we draft Embiid.

If the Cavs draft Embiid, we draft Wiggins.

In short, I'll be pissed if we don't land a Jayhawk. I think those two are in a little tier of their own, they're freaks.