TRADE: Rubio to Utah for '18 OKC 1st

[Loyal[]Wolf]

[guest81]

I'd prefer trading it for a solid rotation player. We need depth and mid to late first round picks are mostly luck anyways.

Not really. It's how the Spurs have been the Spurs this long

The difference between us and the spurs is that the spurs already had depth. They used their picks to keep their depth going.

We are in a different situation because we have no depth

The depth your speaking of like Tony Parker and Manu, both late round picks

[Nick K]

Welcome to winning fellas. 1 year from now this will be viewed as one of the best summers in timberwolf history.

We would have won with or without Ricky.

The thing with Jeff Teague is that he'll cost more with providing less or the same impact as Ricky.

You gotta go for Lowry at this point, Teague is a lateral move

Wrong, the love affair for Ricky Rubio blinds you from accepting the truth. The league currently requires point guards that can score.

Steph curry
Tony Parker
James harden
Chris Paul
George hill
Russel Westbrook
Mike Conley
Damian lillard

That's 1-8 in the west coast conference. No matter how much you love Ricky Rubio the man is completely in over his head in the west and won't take this team to the championship level/conversation.

Now you guys will get to see what a real point guard looks like. No more hype, no more analytics, no more narrative, no more lies..... its time to win!

I love Ricky but we will win more with Teague. Ricky is better in some ways, and Teague is better in some ways. It's a lateral move talent wise but we will win more with Teague. Teague's ability to space the floor will benefit every guy on the team plus his ability to drive and finish at the basket will be invaluable late in games. Ricky is a great kid. A total class act. Utah got the deal of the century because they gave up next to nothing, but MN will win more games. I have no doubt about that. People make it sound like Teague can't play. That's far from the truth. He's a 15, 4 and 8 ast guy. Shoots 45% from the field, 35% from 3. 86% ft shooter. He's 29 and in the prime of his career.

It hurts to lose a guy like Ricky. I felt that way about Zach Lavine. When the Wolves are winning one game after another we'll know deep down it's was the right thing to do.

[Cappy_Smurf]

The Paul George trade is a positive in regards to the pick you guys gained for Rubio. There was talk that OKC would trade Westbrook this year without an extension. The pick is protected top 14 for 3 years, then turns into 2 2nds. So with the George trade, you should at least be able to avoid having the value of the pick plunge, and should collect.

[Piecake]

Not really. It's how the Spurs have been the Spurs this long

The difference between us and the spurs is that the spurs already had depth. They used their picks to keep their depth going.

We are in a different situation because we have no depth

The depth your speaking of like Tony Parker and Manu, both late round picks

Do you know how infinitesimally small a chance it is to pick a player of that caliber with a late pick? And you are using that as an example? Again, The spurs already had depth. They weren't in desperate need to get depth RIGHT NOW like we are. That's the difference.

After this, we are going to have about 7-8 guys who will be actual NBA players. The rest will be horrible and that pick has a small shot of turning into an NBA player in about 4 years.

Why wouldn't we take the sure thing and get a quality player who can play now so long as that player is in his mid to late 20s? We already have our superstars. We need roleplayers to make sure that our stars aren't dead by the playoffs.

I cant say I am interested in gambling when we have an asset that we can turn into a good player when we are clearly in win-now mode.

[KGdaBom]

The Paul George trade is a positive in regards to the pick you guys gained for Rubio. There was talk that OKC would trade Westbrook this year without an extension. The pick is protected top 14 for 3 years, then turns into 2 2nds. So with the George trade, you should at least be able to avoid having the value of the pick plunge, and should collect.

I just hope that the Wolves can finish ahead of OKC despite this trade.

[King Malta]

Just read through every post in the thread, fair effort haha.

First of all, if you're going to abandon the team because of this trade, good luck to you, off you trot and don't come back when we're winning games and we're back in the playoffs. I've supported this team from the other side of the globe for almost 20 years now, I've seen some horrible basketball, some good basketball, some players I've not liked and seen some players I loved traded away, I support the Minnesota Timberwolves though not Ricky Rubio, Kevin Love or Kevin Garnett. I'll never understand people who are willing to abandon teams to follow individual players or because they make trades they disagree with, you're either in it or you're not.

As far as this move itself I quite like Rubio despite the faults we know he has. Teague is probably a better fit as far as the skillset he brings but I'm not really comfortable with paying him around 4 million a year for that better fit. That being said, we've still got cash left to fill the gaps we have and I want to see how we spend it before my mind's made up either way on this trade.

As mentioned by a few others in this thread, Thibs and Scott have proven to be pretty shrewd in the market and haven't too many rash moves, I'm sure they've got a plan/strategy in mind as to what happens after this move.

I get people love Ricky and are sad to see him go, I'm going to miss his heart and energy too, but I'm not going to miss being horrible and sitting in the lottery like we have for the last 14 years. It's finally our time to be a good basketball team and I'm looking forward to it!

[urinesane]

Just read through every post in the thread, fair effort haha.

First of all, if you're going to abandon the team because of this trade, good luck to you, off you trot and don't come back when we're winning games and we're back in the playoffs. I've supported this team from the other side of the globe for almost 20 years now, I've seen some horrible basketball, some good basketball, some players I've not liked and seen some players I loved traded away, I support the Minnesota Timberwolves though not Ricky Rubio, Kevin Love or Kevin Garnett. I'll never understand people who are willing to abandon teams to follow individual players or because they make trades they disagree with, you're either in it or you're not.

As far as this move itself I quite like Rubio despite the faults we know he has. Teague is probably a better fit as far as the skillset he brings but I'm not really comfortable with paying him around 4 million a year for that better fit. That being said, we've still got cash left to fill the gaps we have and I want to see how we spend it before my mind's made up either way on this trade.

As mentioned by a few others in this thread, Thibs and Scott have proven to be pretty shrewd in the market and haven't too many rash moves, I'm sure they've got a plan/strategy in mind as to what happens after this move.

I get people love Ricky and are sad to see him go, I'm going to miss his heart and energy too, but I'm not going to miss being horrible and sitting in the lottery like we have for the last 14 years. It's finally our time to be a good basketball team and I'm looking forward to it!

You're acting as if Ricky was the reason they weren't good. He was one of the few rays of sunshine in the sh*t storm we call the Wolves last 6 seasons.

This isn't a game played by robots or commodities. Ricky gave us hope when we had no business having any and now that success is in sight, he gets cast a side as if HE was the problem. Just doesn't sit right.

Not sure how you can expect people not to be upset when their favorite team trades their favorite player for basically cash.

[the_bruce]

It will be amusing when ricky rolls into the target center for the first time next season and gets a big standing ovation from the fans. Book it. Also, the exact opposite of what happens to klove.

[TheDominator273]

Just read through every post in the thread, fair effort haha.

First of all, if you're going to abandon the team because of this trade, good luck to you, off you trot and don't come back when we're winning games and we're back in the playoffs. I've supported this team from the other side of the globe for almost 20 years now, I've seen some horrible basketball, some good basketball, some players I've not liked and seen some players I loved traded away, I support the Minnesota Timberwolves though not Ricky Rubio, Kevin Love or Kevin Garnett. I'll never understand people who are willing to abandon teams to follow individual players or because they make trades they disagree with, you're either in it or you're not.

As far as this move itself I quite like Rubio despite the faults we know he has. Teague is probably a better fit as far as the skillset he brings but I'm not really comfortable with paying him around 4 million a year for that better fit. That being said, we've still got cash left to fill the gaps we have and I want to see how we spend it before my mind's made up either way on this trade.

As mentioned by a few others in this thread, Thibs and Scott have proven to be pretty shrewd in the market and haven't too many rash moves, I'm sure they've got a plan/strategy in mind as to what happens after this move.

I get people love Ricky and are sad to see him go, I'm going to miss his heart and energy too, but I'm not going to miss being horrible and sitting in the lottery like we have for the last 14 years. It's finally our time to be a good basketball team and I'm looking forward to it!

Ricky brought me back to basketball. After I had to give up playing due to my health it was too hard to watch until along came this happy go lucky Spanish kid who reminded me why I loved the game in the first place. As another poster said, Ricky has been one of the few bright spots on the team since he got here, he gave us hope. He didn't live up to the hype he had coming into the league but he is still a fantastic player that is fun to watch. He is by all accounts a great teammate as well, even when being constantly in trade rumors. It's hard to see him get cast aside after all of that.

I've been a Wolves fan my entire life but if it weren't for Ricky I don't think I would have come back to the game.

[King Malta]

Just read through every post in the thread, fair effort haha.

First of all, if you're going to abandon the team because of this trade, good luck to you, off you trot and don't come back when we're winning games and we're back in the playoffs. I've supported this team from the other side of the globe for almost 20 years now, I've seen some horrible basketball, some good basketball, some players I've not liked and seen some players I loved traded away, I support the Minnesota Timberwolves though not Ricky Rubio, Kevin Love or Kevin Garnett. I'll never understand people who are willing to abandon teams to follow individual players or because they make trades they disagree with, you're either in it or you're not.

As far as this move itself I quite like Rubio despite the faults we know he has. Teague is probably a better fit as far as the skillset he brings but I'm not really comfortable with paying him around 4 million a year for that better fit. That being said, we've still got cash left to fill the gaps we have and I want to see how we spend it before my mind's made up either way on this trade.

As mentioned by a few others in this thread, Thibs and Scott have proven to be pretty shrewd in the market and haven't too many rash moves, I'm sure they've got a plan/strategy in mind as to what happens after this move.

I get people love Ricky and are sad to see him go, I'm going to miss his heart and energy too, but I'm not going to miss being horrible and sitting in the lottery like we have for the last 14 years. It's finally our time to be a good basketball team and I'm looking forward to it!

You're acting as if Ricky was the reason they weren't good. He was one of the few rays of sunshine in the sh*t storm we call the Wolves last 6 seasons.

This isn't a game played by robots or commodities. Ricky gave us hope when we had no business having any and now that success is in sight, he gets cast a side as if HE was the problem. Just doesn't sit right.

Not sure how you can expect people not to be upset when their favorite team trades their favorite player for basically cash.

Never said that mate, and you know it. I actually said that 'I get people love Ricky and are sad to see him go, I'm going to miss his heart and energy'. I think Ricky has been one of our best/better players over our **** period.

I never said people can't be upset either. I did however say that if people are going to abandon the team over it then good riddance to them and I stand by that. I love this ball team, I've traveled halfway across the world and spend thousands of dollars for the pure purpose of seeing them play, I'm all in until the end, it annoys the hell out of me to see people flake and bail based on personnel moves they don't like, especially when we're finally get to see a good team on the floor.

[King Malta]

Just read through every post in the thread, fair effort haha.

First of all, if you're going to abandon the team because of this trade, good luck to you, off you trot and don't come back when we're winning games and we're back in the playoffs. I've supported this team from the other side of the globe for almost 20 years now, I've seen some horrible basketball, some good basketball, some players I've not liked and seen some players I loved traded away, I support the Minnesota Timberwolves though not Ricky Rubio, Kevin Love or Kevin Garnett. I'll never understand people who are willing to abandon teams to follow individual players or because they make trades they disagree with, you're either in it or you're not.

As far as this move itself I quite like Rubio despite the faults we know he has. Teague is probably a better fit as far as the skillset he brings but I'm not really comfortable with paying him around 4 million a year for that better fit. That being said, we've still got cash left to fill the gaps we have and I want to see how we spend it before my mind's made up either way on this trade.

As mentioned by a few others in this thread, Thibs and Scott have proven to be pretty shrewd in the market and haven't too many rash moves, I'm sure they've got a plan/strategy in mind as to what happens after this move.

I get people love Ricky and are sad to see him go, I'm going to miss his heart and energy too, but I'm not going to miss being horrible and sitting in the lottery like we have for the last 14 years. It's finally our time to be a good basketball team and I'm looking forward to it!

Ricky brought me back to basketball. After I had to give up playing due to my health it was too hard to watch until along came this happy go lucky Spanish kid who reminded me why I loved the game in the first place. As another poster said, Ricky has been one of the few bright spots on the team since he got here, he gave us hope. He didn't live up to the hype he had coming into the league but he is still a fantastic player that is fun to watch. He is by all accounts a great teammate as well, even when being constantly in trade rumors. It's hard to see him get cast aside after all of that.

I've been a Wolves fan my entire life but if it weren't for Ricky I don't think I would have come back to the game.

I'm glad Ricky brought that positivity to your life mate, and I say that genuinely. I just find people flaking on teams when they do stuff they don't like to be disloyal and infuriating, that's just the way I am I guess, we all have different priorities and makeups.

[FinnTheHuman]

I just like Riki much more than Teague, think he's one of those guys who can fit with pretty much anybody no matter his limitations or fit, he's just a great basketball mind. I'm reasonably unhappy with this move, but I might be a bit closer to neutral if we do well with the remaining cap space and cap exceptions. Of course I'll be rooting for our guys next season, but I can't lie and say I wouldn't be rooting even harder if Riki remained instead of Teague. Hopefully winning mends my broken heart.

[King Malta]

I just like Riki much more than Teague, think he's one of those guys who can fit with pretty much anybody no matter his limitations or fit, he's just a great basketball mind. I'm reasonably unhappy with this move, but I might be a bit closer to neutral if we do well with the remaining cap space and cap exceptions. Of course I'll be rooting for our guys next season, but I can't lie and say I wouldn't be rooting even harder if Riki remain instead of Teague. Hopefully winning mends my broken heart.

That's a fair enough take too. I'm not rapt with the trade either, and all being equal would've preferred to keep Rubio on his 14 mil a year deal, I can see what Thibs and Scott are thinking though.

As I stated in my reply to Urinesane, I can understand the disappointment and heartbreak, my missus is also a massive Wolves fan and she's considerably upset by it, but people bailing on the team I can't understand.

[Ripgomez46]

I don't care I was so high about butler and so low on the Teague Rubio swap.

[FinnTheHuman]

I just like Riki much more than Teague, think he's one of those guys who can fit with pretty much anybody no matter his limitations or fit, he's just a great basketball mind. I'm reasonably unhappy with this move, but I might be a bit closer to neutral if we do well with the remaining cap space and cap exceptions. Of course I'll be rooting for our guys next season, but I can't lie and say I wouldn't be rooting even harder if Riki remain instead of Teague. Hopefully winning mends my broken heart.

That's a fair enough take too. I'm not rapt with the trade either, and all being equal would've preferred to keep Rubio on his 14 mil a year deal, I can see what Thibs and Scott are thinking though.

As I stated in my reply to Urinesane, I can understand the disappointment and heartbreak, my missus is also a massive Wolves fan and she's considerably upset by it, but people bailing on the team I can't understand.

Yeah, I'm not trying to say your perspective has any flaw, your post just inspired me to share my take and my sorrow.

And people hating on the team are either just overly emotional right now and will come to their senses, or they're guys who became Wolves fans because we drafted Ricky. No true fan would abandon a team because of this move, it's not nearly controversial enough, it's not some multiple all-star player or a rookie with an all time great potential.

[Baseline81]

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[TheDominator273]

I just like Riki much more than Teague, think he's one of those guys who can fit with pretty much anybody no matter his limitations or fit, he's just a great basketball mind. I'm reasonably unhappy with this move, but I might be a bit closer to neutral if we do well with the remaining cap space and cap exceptions. Of course I'll be rooting for our guys next season, but I can't lie and say I wouldn't be rooting even harder if Riki remain instead of Teague. Hopefully winning mends my broken heart.

That's a fair enough take too. I'm not rapt with the trade either, and all being equal would've preferred to keep Rubio on his 14 mil a year deal, I can see what Thibs and Scott are thinking though.

As I stated in my reply to Urinesane, I can understand the disappointment and heartbreak, my missus is also a massive Wolves fan and she's considerably upset by it, but people bailing on the team I can't understand.

Yeah, I'm not trying to say your perspective has any flaw, your post just inspired me to share my take and my sorrow.

And people hating on the team are either just overly emotional right now and will come to their senses, or they're guys who became Wolves fans because we drafted Ricky. No true fan would abandon a team because of this move, it's not nearly controversial enough, it's not some multiple all-star player or a rookie with an all time great potential.

I hope I'm just being emotional tonight and I can get over losing Ricky. I've loved the Wolves my whole life and it would suck to root for a different team as much as it sucks to root for the Wolves without Rubio.

[Takingbaconback]

I guess I'm a heartless bastard. Even if everybody on the Wolves were traded tomorrow, I'd just rationalize myself into thinking we could be a better team lol

[Neeva]

We lose Rubio and just a little over 3 million in capspace but get a late first round draft pick and Teague. This is a win for Thibs, he is killing it this summer.