OT: Avengers: Infinity War Trailer

[Fury]

Nah I get that but what cuyankees said was that he couldn't understand the love for the film which is absurd when he admits Killmonger was a great villain and is seen as a great villain. People went from I Am T'Challa to I Am Killmonger quick. I get not personally feeling it but you should be able to understand.

Some would venture to say that before IW, BP had been the most successful and loved MCU movie ever. That’s the part I don’t understand, the box office #s and rabid fanfare for BP.

As stated before, Killmonger carried BP movie and Jordan would’ve been a better cast as BP, but it says something that you’d put Joker in Batman and Killmonger in BP in the same breath. Heath won best actor for that role and there isn’t a chance in hell that Jordan even gets nominated. And that must be the part I don’t understand; most/majority think that Killmonger was on a Joker level hence BP’s mass following where as I couldn’t disagree more.

Joker was cool but his plan made little sense and his motivation was nonexistent (which was the point). Killmonger seemed real. Whether out not he's nominated he deserves to be. The bury me in the ocean line is probably the best in any comic book movie. And T'Challa was not more boring than Bale Batman who was carried by his villains in 3 films (compared to T'Challa who did the heavy lifting in Civil War).

Not true about Begins or Rises. Begins I don’t think it’s arguable cause Ra’s wasn’t in it the whole way. Rises I guess but Hardy was kinda overrated.

Killmonger was cool but a little too over the top.

[Meat]

Nah I get that but what cuyankees said was that he couldn't understand the love for the film which is absurd when he admits Killmonger was a great villain and is seen as a great villain. People went from I Am T'Challa to I Am Killmonger quick. I get not personally feeling it but you should be able to understand.

Some would venture to say that before IW, BP had been the most successful and loved MCU movie ever. That’s the part I don’t understand, the box office #s and rabid fanfare for BP.

As stated before, Killmonger carried BP movie and Jordan would’ve been a better cast as BP, but it says something that you’d put Joker in Batman and Killmonger in BP in the same breath. Heath won best actor for that role and there isn’t a chance in hell that Jordan even gets nominated. And that must be the part I don’t understand; most/majority think that Killmonger was on a Joker level hence BP’s mass following where as I couldn’t disagree more.

Joker was cool but his plan made little sense and his motivation was nonexistent (which was the point). Killmonger seemed real. Whether out not he's nominated he deserves to be. The bury me in the ocean line is probably the best in any comic book movie. And T'Challa was not more boring than Bale Batman who was carried by his villains in 3 films (compared to T'Challa who did the heavy lifting in Civil War).

I though it was one of the stupidest lines, people that jump over boats generally don't have decedents so how they gonna be his ancestor

[Meat]

Some would venture to say that before IW, BP had been the most successful and loved MCU movie ever. That’s the part I don’t understand, the box office #s and rabid fanfare for BP.

As stated before, Killmonger carried BP movie and Jordan would’ve been a better cast as BP, but it says something that you’d put Joker in Batman and Killmonger in BP in the same breath. Heath won best actor for that role and there isn’t a chance in hell that Jordan even gets nominated. And that must be the part I don’t understand; most/majority think that Killmonger was on a Joker level hence BP’s mass following where as I couldn’t disagree more.

Joker was cool but his plan made little sense and his motivation was nonexistent (which was the point). Killmonger seemed real. Whether out not he's nominated he deserves to be. The bury me in the ocean line is probably the best in any comic book movie. And T'Challa was not more boring than Bale Batman who was carried by his villains in 3 films (compared to T'Challa who did the heavy lifting in Civil War).

Not true about Begins or Rises. Begins I don’t think it’s arguable cause Ra’s wasn’t in it the whole way. Rises I guess but Hardy was kinda overrated.

Killmonger was cool but a little too over the top.

Kilmonger was hella cartoonish

[E-Balla]

Some would venture to say that before IW, BP had been the most successful and loved MCU movie ever. That’s the part I don’t understand, the box office #s and rabid fanfare for BP.

As stated before, Killmonger carried BP movie and Jordan would’ve been a better cast as BP, but it says something that you’d put Joker in Batman and Killmonger in BP in the same breath. Heath won best actor for that role and there isn’t a chance in hell that Jordan even gets nominated. And that must be the part I don’t understand; most/majority think that Killmonger was on a Joker level hence BP’s mass following where as I couldn’t disagree more.

Joker was cool but his plan made little sense and his motivation was nonexistent (which was the point). Killmonger seemed real. Whether out not he's nominated he deserves to be. The bury me in the ocean line is probably the best in any comic book movie. And T'Challa was not more boring than Bale Batman who was carried by his villains in 3 films (compared to T'Challa who did the heavy lifting in Civil War).

Not true about Begins or Rises. Begins I don’t think it’s arguable cause Ra’s wasn’t in it the whole way. Rises I guess but Hardy was kinda overrated.

Killmonger was cool but a little too over the top.

I think the combination of Ra's, Alfred, and Scarecrow made Begins memorable but definitely not Bruce. Bane and Catwoman definitely carried Rises. I remember more of what Joseph Gordon Levitt did than what Batman did other than get his back broke and heal in 2 hours.

I don't agree at all that Killmonger was over the top... At least not for the Marvel Universe where most villains and characters are tonally in line with Killmonger. In a Batman movie he's be out of place but in a Marvel flick he matches everyone else outside of Bucky.

[E-Balla]

Some would venture to say that before IW, BP had been the most successful and loved MCU movie ever. That’s the part I don’t understand, the box office #s and rabid fanfare for BP.

As stated before, Killmonger carried BP movie and Jordan would’ve been a better cast as BP, but it says something that you’d put Joker in Batman and Killmonger in BP in the same breath. Heath won best actor for that role and there isn’t a chance in hell that Jordan even gets nominated. And that must be the part I don’t understand; most/majority think that Killmonger was on a Joker level hence BP’s mass following where as I couldn’t disagree more.

Joker was cool but his plan made little sense and his motivation was nonexistent (which was the point). Killmonger seemed real. Whether out not he's nominated he deserves to be. The bury me in the ocean line is probably the best in any comic book movie. And T'Challa was not more boring than Bale Batman who was carried by his villains in 3 films (compared to T'Challa who did the heavy lifting in Civil War).

I though it was one of the stupidest lines, people that jump over boats generally don't have decedents so how they gonna be his ancestor

Umm... I think you're mistaken in how ancestry works (if my great, great, great uncle had no kids he's still my ancestor) and at the same time taking the idea of ancestry too literally.

[spree8]

Yooo gtfo here...Killmonger is a OG triple OG!

[cuyankees]

Joker was cool but his plan made little sense and his motivation was nonexistent (which was the point). Killmonger seemed real. Whether out not he's nominated he deserves to be. The bury me in the ocean line is probably the best in any comic book movie. And T'Challa was not more boring than Bale Batman who was carried by his villains in 3 films (compared to T'Challa who did the heavy lifting in Civil War).

Not true about Begins or Rises. Begins I don’t think it’s arguable cause Ra’s wasn’t in it the whole way. Rises I guess but Hardy was kinda overrated.

Killmonger was cool but a little too over the top.

I think the combination of Ra's, Alfred, and Scarecrow made Begins memorable but definitely not Bruce. Bane and Catwoman definitely carried Rises. I remember more of what Joseph Gordon Levitt did than what Batman did other than get his back broke and heal in 2 hours.

I don't agree at all that Killmonger was over the top... At least not for the Marvel Universe where most villains and characters are tonally in line with Killmonger. In a Batman movie he's be out of place but in a Marvel flick he matches everyone else outside of Bucky.

Bale as Batman def better than current 1. Whoever directed that Batman set did an awesome job bc Joker and Bane were epic villians, played epically by their corresponding actors, that MCU or any DC comic movies will never be able to touch.

Really wish MCU had X-Men so Jackman got some run as Wolverine in Avenger movies. The next phase of MCU after Avengers 4 is going to suck but hopefully X-Men with Deadpool and Fantastic 4 will help out. Let's hope Hardy gets into Spiderman bc he's just awesome.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Bale as Batman def better than current 1. Whoever directed that Batman set did an awesome job bc Joker and Bane were epic villians, played epically by their corresponding actors, that MCU or any DC comic movies will never be able to touch.

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

[cuyankees]

Bale as Batman def better than current 1. Whoever directed that Batman set did an awesome job bc Joker and Bane were epic villians, played epically by their corresponding actors, that MCU or any DC comic movies will never be able to touch.

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Bale as Batman def better than current 1. Whoever directed that Batman set did an awesome job bc Joker and Bane were epic villians, played epically by their corresponding actors, that MCU or any DC comic movies will never be able to touch.

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.

[vallen]

Thinking Strange's plan had the heroes losing in order to win...

i saw an article stating the same theory. explaining why he said "Tony it was the only way" before he evaporated. that he followed the path of the 1 out of 14 million outcomes or whatever it was. makes sense.

[cuyankees]

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.

Def don't have comic nerd friends so good guess.

Current Superman is a perfect cast. Don't follow DCU and politics during filming process to really care, granted watched all the movies bc well who doesn't as a former comic nerd.

Begs the ?, why is MCU so much better than what they do w DC movies?! The diff is huge and it's a shame they aren't comparable.

[NBA Fan 1234]

You might be the 1st person I've heard say that about current Batman.

Regardless, Wonder Woman takes the Cake for DC. She's smoking hot and perfect for WW. Too bad they couldn't get her for Captain Marvel.

Then you don't have many other friends who are comic nerds like I am / like the friends I have or talk with other comic book guys. Unless the people commenting hate Snyder (which is a large contingent and one that I am not a part of), I actually think most view Affleck as the better Batman/Bruce.

Same with Cavill - he was also built for the role physically and acting wise, but his personality off the camera is also Superman-esque. The castings have been perfect IMO (even if Mamoa was different and the writing for Ezra was a bit too jokey), but the executives kept butting in and ruining things - see BVS and JL.

Def don't have comic nerd friends so good guess.

Current Superman is a perfect cast. Don't follow DCU and politics during filming process to really care, granted watched all the movies bc well who doesn't as a former comic nerd.

Begs the ?, why is MCU so much better than what they do w DC movies?! The diff is huge and it's a shame they aren't comparable.

I blame a few things - DC rushing into BVS (which was NOT the original plan from Snyder), executives butting in, and the tones being different - so, IMO, they are not comparable. Marvel's movies are fantastic for what they are, and I think DC's are great for different reasons.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Thinking Strange's plan had the heroes losing in order to win...

Spoiler:

Definitely was. Remember strange said there were 14 million scenarios he saw and they only won in one? Combine that with him saying if it came to saving Tony, Peter, or the stone, he'd take the stong. Adding both to Strange saying "it was the only way," you know that this was way they win.

[Sedale Threatt]

Spoiler:

Of course he did, his character was brought to life. It’s not really my opinion tho, it’s a fact. Thanos was not like that in the comics. If you’ve seen them, it’s pretty clear. Only time he was really emotional was with Death rejecting him... that’s pretty much all he wanted and killed half the universe for her. They didn’t even have that in the movie, but Starlin didn’t even care about that either. Saw an article written by this comic nut, who put it this way...


“Thanos's Sad Story in Avengers: Infinity War Is a Major Deviation From the Comics


The MCU introduces him as Gamora and Nebula's adoptive father who's out to collect the Infinity Stones so he can destroy half the universe to "save it." Sure, he's a villain, but he honestly believes he's doing the right thing. He's even capable of familial love, guys — how bad can he really be? Well, Thanos of the comics is one of the most powerful and unsympathetic villains, so pretty bad.

The MCU gets off light with Daddy Thanos, honestly, despite the ending of Infinity War. MCU Thanos suggests a mass genocide to "save" his homeworld, which is . . . at least pretending to be noble, I guess. The Mad Titan of the comics murders his own mother, lovers, and children; captains (and murders) his own space pirate crew; nukes his own world and many others; and experiments on himself, unwittingly giving himself many powers . . . all before he even gets close to getting ahold of the Infinity Gems.

Josh Brolin Brings a Surprising Level of Sadness and Empathy to Infinity War's Thanos

His True Motivations:

Thanos first appears back in the early '70s in an Iron Man comic, but he's more famed for the Infinity Gauntlet storyline and its subsequent parts, Infinity War and Infinity Crusade. The Infinity miniseries of 2013 is also said to have partially inspired the Avengers: Infinity War film. While Thanos's 40-year history varies greatly, his motive largely remains the same: he wipes out half the universe for a lady love. (And you thought a diamond ring was impressive.) As far as the comics go, Mistress Death, the feminine personification of death (go figure), inspires Thanos's quest. She believes the universe is out of balance as the living souls outnumber the dead.

In an effort to impress her and win her love, Thanos collects the Infinity Gems on his gauntlet, and, with a snap of his fingers, wipes out half the universe for her — yes, that infamous snap in the middle of an issue. Unfortunately for Thanos, Mistress Death spurns him anyway, which definitely doesn't help his attitude”


So that’s all I’m saying. They changed his whole reason for this quest (courting Death as they teased in Avengers 1) so I guess they thought why not change his personality a bit too? They basically swapped out his emotions for Lady Death for Gamora... a big change. People getting on me for disliking that aspect of it are making a bigger deal out of this than I am lol. Obviously they aren’t familiar with his back story, but I am, and I just didn’t like that part of it. Not sure why people are offended by that. Kinda weird.

Spoiler:

Jim Starlin is a legendary @sshole. If he wasn't pleased with his most famous character was portrayed, trust me, he would have had zero qualms voicing that opinion. Kind of like how Alan Moore sh*ts on every adaptation that's ever been done with his work.

Besides, take a moment to seriously reflect on how dumb the courting of Death would have been translated to the big screen, especially a movie of this magnitude. Not only would you have to introduce an important new character in a movie already so packed that even Captain America is forced to take a minor role, and establish Thanos' relationship with her, you'd have to sell the audience that this huge crossover event, the culmination of 10 years worth of movies, is basically a superhero version of Say Anything, swapping Jon Cusack's boombox out for the Infinity Gauntlet. It would have been completely ridiculous.

I just find it amusing when people complain about how this was changed -- you are far from the only one -- when nothing ever made Thanos look softer or more weak, raging through increasingly unhinged attempts to woo a woman. I wasn't overly thrilled with the motivation they chose, but they were at least able to maintain the culling of half the universe, and The Snap. They also gave him layers that are often lacking in the comics, when he tends to be a one-dimensional mustache twirler. Still a great character, but not on par with the nuanced version we got here.

Spoiler:

You’re saying Jim liked it, but then admitting that Thanos is not like the comics... which is my point exactly.

Jim may have liked it, but for different reasons, because again, Thanos is different from the comics. With that said, my point about Jim is that he probably liked it because his character was finally brought to life... not because it was like the comic... because (one more time) just like you said... “they gave him depth he didn’t have in the comics” and the comic version “is still a great character but not like the nuanced version we got here”.

As far as Lady Death being stupid... well, they had Hela, the Goddess of Death in Thor Ragnorak, so it wouldn’t be too stupid. And it’s not like he’s trying to woo any ol’ girl... it’s just how Death manifests itself to him. He’s been obsessed with death in general his whole life, and even worshipped it... he killed his mom, kids, lovers, team, planets, etc for it... not really just a love story... more of a psychotic maniac on a killing spree. I get what you’re saying about having the time in the movie to establish her tho... but that’s not even the real problem I had with the movie.

My whole point is that I’m not used to seeing Thanos with that emotional depth, and was taken back by it. If you’re admitting there were significant changes, why can’t I dislike it?

Instead of switching his love for death to the love for Gamora... I’d prefer they just cut Lady Death out, and kept him a murderous nutjob with this new motivation of saving the universe by reducing its population to half... which I actually didn’t mind at all (but only brought up as evidence for deviations from the comic). If they did that, maybe we would’ve had more time for people like Capt America too..

Spoiler:

No, I understand where you're coming from. Probably my biggest disappointment with the MCU so far is Whedon's portrayal of Ultron, in which he turned a remorseless, unstoppable killing machine into a wise-cracking smart ass. I f*cking hated it. So if you have that same reaction to Thanos, I respect that. Very unscientifically, it seems that the majority of people I've come across are thrilled with him, but you definitely aren't the only person I've seen who wasn't a fan.

I just can't stress enough, personally, how much I also hated that specific angle of the original Infinity Gauntlet when I first read it. My background is that I was a heavy reader/collector in the mid-late 80s, primarily X-Men. At that point Thanos was very much a fringe character; I don't even remember him from the Marvel Handbooks I used to pore over. So when he was introduced at the end of Avengers, I didn't even recognize him.

So, as has been the case with a lot of these movies, I went out and picked up some trades to familiarize myself with the character and the stories they were adapting. And while I liked him overall, and especially the concept of the Gauntlet, I didn't like his motivation in that story at all. Like, I thought it was one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read in a comic book -- and that's saying something, because they are by nature somewhat ridiculous (and I say that affectionately).

So whenever I see people complaining about that, kind of like people sticking up for Zack Snyder's abortions, it kind of gets under my skin. But it's whatever; you're absolutely entitled to your opinion.

My thing is, a lot of these movies bear very little resemblance to the source material. Civil War and Winter Soldier are nothing like the books, outside of the general inspiration. Age of Ultron was pretty much just the title. And so on. Personally, I think probably 90 percent of the adjustments/alterations they make really work well.

This was one of them, IMO. Using Gamora wasn't really based on the Lady Death thing whatsoever. It was simply a way to anchor Thanos and give him an added dimension and some level of sympathy so that he's more than just the psychotic murderer he's often portrayed to be in the books. She's also a means to show just how far Thanos is willing to go to achieve his ends, which mirrors and augments the relentless manner in which he plows through our heroes. As I saw somebody point out elsewhere, they weren't willing to make the ultimate sacrifices, but he was. And he won (for now).

All that said, I respect that you have a different opinion.

EDIT: Ha, just stumbled on this. Looks like they did take the overpopulation thing right from the books.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/thanos-motivations-in-avengers-infinity-war-have-much-1825660879

[E-Balla]

Bale as Batman def better than current 1. Whoever directed that Batman set did an awesome job bc Joker and Bane were epic villians, played epically by their corresponding actors, that MCU or any DC comic movies will never be able to touch.

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

You liked the DC movies tho so... Yeah...

[NBA Fan 1234]

Bale as Batman def better than current 1. Whoever directed that Batman set did an awesome job bc Joker and Bane were epic villians, played epically by their corresponding actors, that MCU or any DC comic movies will never be able to touch.

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

You liked the DC movies tho so... Yeah...

Even those who didn’t think the way I do. Not gonna say anyone is wrong in what they think about acting choices, but my line of thinking is very common regarding Affleck.

I like the movies because IMO they were great. BVS extended was perfect, MOS was unbelievable, and WW was as well. SS had its issues and JL...ugh...so they’re not without flaws. I just wish the executives kept away from the decisions / with the constant butting in. That’s it. The universe would be much better and even more fleshed out if they hadn’t. As I mentioned before, it was the executives who forced Batman into the second movie - Snyder had a long arc for Superman that executives interrupted.

FWIW, BP is my second favorite movie regardless of genre and I still love the Marvel movies. I’m far from blinded.

[E-Balla]

Disagree. I think Affleck has actually been the best Bruce AND Batman. From the fight scenes to the attitude, I think he was the perfect Batman we've seen on film. Joker was the best villain (Killmonger is a close second for sure...very close, IMO, but they were very different villains in very different roles), but Bane was just solid to me.

Nolan was an unbelievable director though for sure.

You liked the DC movies tho so... Yeah...

Even those who didn’t think the way I do. Not gonna say anyone is wrong in what they think about acting choices, but my line of thinking is very common regarding Affleck.

I like the movies because IMO they were great. BVS extended was perfect, MOS was unbelievable, and WW was as well. SS had its issues and JL...ugh...so they’re not without flaws. I just wish the executives kept away from the decisions / with the constant butting in. That’s it. The universe would be much better and even more fleshed out if they hadn’t. As I mentioned before, it was the executives who forced Batman into the second movie - Snyder had a long arc for Superman that executives interrupted.

FWIW, BP is my second favorite movie regardless of genre and I still love the Marvel movies. I’m far from blinded.

I know I'm just letting him know you like those movies more than most so it makes sense you like Batfleck more than most.

[NBA Fan 1234]

You liked the DC movies tho so... Yeah...

Even those who didn’t think the way I do. Not gonna say anyone is wrong in what they think about acting choices, but my line of thinking is very common regarding Affleck.

I like the movies because IMO they were great. BVS extended was perfect, MOS was unbelievable, and WW was as well. SS had its issues and JL...ugh...so they’re not without flaws. I just wish the executives kept away from the decisions / with the constant butting in. That’s it. The universe would be much better and even more fleshed out if they hadn’t. As I mentioned before, it was the executives who forced Batman into the second movie - Snyder had a long arc for Superman that executives interrupted.

FWIW, BP is my second favorite movie regardless of genre and I still love the Marvel movies. I’m far from blinded.

I know I'm just letting him know you like those movies more than most so it makes sense you like Batfleck more than most.

I own my nerd side.

[E-Balla]

Even those who didn’t think the way I do. Not gonna say anyone is wrong in what they think about acting choices, but my line of thinking is very common regarding Affleck.

I like the movies because IMO they were great. BVS extended was perfect, MOS was unbelievable, and WW was as well. SS had its issues and JL...ugh...so they’re not without flaws. I just wish the executives kept away from the decisions / with the constant butting in. That’s it. The universe would be much better and even more fleshed out if they hadn’t. As I mentioned before, it was the executives who forced Batman into the second movie - Snyder had a long arc for Superman that executives interrupted.

FWIW, BP is my second favorite movie regardless of genre and I still love the Marvel movies. I’m far from blinded.

I know I'm just letting him know you like those movies more than most so it makes sense you like Batfleck more than most.

I own my nerd side.

Meh. Get on my level bruh. Start spending at least 1 hour a day reading Shounen and comics. **** is tiring at times but so entertaining. Along with the NBA season and not having cable it's why I'm so behind on shows.