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zshawn10 wrote:?s=19
OzzyAZ wrote:Yet another conflicting report about Kawhi. "He wants to go to LA" and now "He doesn't want the spotlight/paparazzi in LA," with nothing being said directly from Kawhi. I've gotta bring up the elephant in the room.
The dude seems pretty high up on the spectrum, like all of his decisions are being made by his handlers. This is an enormous concern for any team willing to trade valuable pieces for him, let alone giving him a max contract. What if he needs to disappear from the public eye for another year? That's not a huge deal for your average employee, but he'll be making $30 million a year.
Spens1 wrote:-Spyda- wrote:Spens1 wrote:
and what cost though, i think that's most lakers fans worry. Pointless getting Leonard if we don't have a core anymore, it would just be these three and scrubs which puts us behind the warriors anyway.
Lol.
Get Kawhi. No metter what it cost.
This is freaking Kawhi man.
Dont worry about the core
We still need 9-12 other players to have a roster. The more core pieces we retain, the better for us. We need to follow the Boston and Philly model of having both stars and young players rather than the Cleveland model of a few good players and overpaid scrubs around them.
SamSepiol wrote:zshawn10 wrote:?s=19
Have to include Deng if they’re taking 3/4 of their core and future (2 first round picks)
Lebron and PG13 May be enough.
If Lebron Can convince Cp3 to join rather than pg13.
Maybe go all in, because Cp3 Lebron and Kawhi might actually be favorites .
Ball, Hart, Ingram/Kuzma (preferably Kuzma), Deng 2 first round picks for Kawhi would be good.
Cp3
Ingram
Lebron
Kawhi
Center
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Why would the Lakers do that when they already know they can just flat out sign him next year?
SamSepiol wrote:zshawn10 wrote:?s=19
Have to include Deng if they’re taking 3/4 of their core and future (2 first round picks)
Lebron and PG13 May be enough.
If Lebron Can convince Cp3 to join rather than pg13.
Maybe go all in, because Cp3 Lebron and Kawhi might actually be favorites .
Ball, Hart, Ingram/Kuzma (preferably Kuzma), Deng 2 first round picks for Kawhi would be good.
Cp3
Ingram
Lebron
Kawhi
Center
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Why would the Lakers do that when they already know they can just flat out sign him next year?
chrisab123 wrote:zshawn10 wrote:?s=19
It’s interesting....the Lakers need to be careful about this. Does LeBron PG and Kwahi beat GSW? I’m not sure. Definitely puts them above Houston. Might only be a 2 year window. LeBron is going into his 16th season. Also remember that someone is going to have to be the Bosh on this team...If it’s Kwahi then you’ve given up most of your young talent for a 3rd option. If it’s George? Then you’ve still given up most of your young depth for a 2nd option...
Tyakack wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Why would the Lakers do that when they already know they can just flat out sign him next year?
They can't if they max LeBron and PG.
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Tyakack wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Why would the Lakers do that when they already know they can just flat out sign him next year?
They can't if they max LeBron and PG.
Both of this guys will take less money which is what happened in Miami in 2010.
chrismikayla wrote:chrisab123 wrote:zshawn10 wrote:?s=19
It’s interesting....the Lakers need to be careful about this. Does LeBron PG and Kwahi beat GSW? I’m not sure. Definitely puts them above Houston. Might only be a 2 year window. LeBron is going into his 16th season. Also remember that someone is going to have to be the Bosh on this team...If it’s Kwahi then you’ve given up most of your young talent for a 3rd option. If it’s George? Then you’ve still given up most of your young depth for a 2nd option...
Yeah Magic needs to not do anything rash out of pressure to sign a superstar (even if that pressure is coming from Lebron himself).
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hookshot199 wrote:Spens1 wrote:-Spyda- wrote:
Lol.
Get Kawhi. No metter what it cost.
This is freaking Kawhi man.
Dont worry about the core
We still need 9-12 other players to have a roster. The more core pieces we retain, the better for us. We need to follow the Boston and Philly model of having both stars and young players rather than the Cleveland model of a few good players and overpaid scrubs around them.
Well said, Spens. The problem you have is that Magic and Jeanie Buss raised expectations and now if you don't deliver it's a failure. What was rather a straightforward offseason - signing PG and LeBron - may have gotten derailed with Kawhi's sh*t show.
I just hope Philly doesn't get involved. No putdown to your rebuild with Ingram, Kuzma and Ball (I think our young Big Three have potential to be better), we're a year ahead. There are five possible locations for LeBron: LA, Philly, Boston, Houston and Cleveland. Boston and Houston can give him a championship series but not without Cleveland's consent to a sign-and-trade. Why would Cleveland do that? Cleveland can't fix its roster. Tanking is the only option to save their 2019 pick, which is better than any pick they might be offered in a trade and which goes to Atlanta if they don't finish in the bottom 10.
That leaves Philly and LA. And as I said, we're a year ahead of you in our rebuild and have around $27 mil in cap space (which can be expanded to $35 mil) to enter the free-agency market and complete our roster if LeBron refuses. And next July, if we do one-year signings like you did with Caldwell-Pope, we'll have $32 mil. We'll know whether Fultz is going to be a future star. We'll know whether Embiid was bothered by his mask in the playoffs, whether Simmons can shoot a mid-range jump shot, whether Zhaire Smith will be a future Kawhi Leonard as Brett Brown indicated in his post-draft press conference.
Sometimes it's best to do nothing.
LeBron's still superman, but his kryptonite (age; he turns 34 in December) is coming upon him. He averaged 5.7 turnovers in the Celtics series and really looked tired in at least two of those games.
chrisab123 wrote:zshawn10 wrote:?s=19
It’s interesting....the Lakers need to be careful about this. Does LeBron PG and Kwahi beat GSW? I’m not sure. Definitely puts them above Houston. Might only be a 2 year window. LeBron is going into his 16th season. Also remember that someone is going to have to be the Bosh on this team...If it’s Kwahi then you’ve given up most of your young talent for a 3rd option. If it’s George? Then you’ve still given up most of your young depth for a 2nd option...
Spens1 wrote:hookshot199 wrote:Spens1 wrote:
We still need 9-12 other players to have a roster. The more core pieces we retain, the better for us. We need to follow the Boston and Philly model of having both stars and young players rather than the Cleveland model of a few good players and overpaid scrubs around them.
Well said, Spens. The problem you have is that Magic and Jeanie Buss raised expectations and now if you don't deliver it's a failure. What was rather a straightforward offseason - signing PG and LeBron - may have gotten derailed with Kawhi's sh*t show.
I just hope Philly doesn't get involved. No putdown to your rebuild with Ingram, Kuzma and Ball (I think our young Big Three have potential to be better), we're a year ahead. There are five possible locations for LeBron: LA, Philly, Boston, Houston and Cleveland. Boston and Houston can give him a championship series but not without Cleveland's consent to a sign-and-trade. Why would Cleveland do that? Cleveland can't fix its roster. Tanking is the only option to save their 2019 pick, which is better than any pick they might be offered in a trade and which goes to Atlanta if they don't finish in the bottom 10.
That leaves Philly and LA. And as I said, we're a year ahead of you in our rebuild and have around $27 mil in cap space (which can be expanded to $35 mil) to enter the free-agency market and complete our roster if LeBron refuses. And next July, if we do one-year signings like you did with Caldwell-Pope, we'll have $32 mil. We'll know whether Fultz is going to be a future star. We'll know whether Embiid was bothered by his mask in the playoffs, whether Simmons can shoot a mid-range jump shot, whether Zhaire Smith will be a future Kawhi Leonard as Brett Brown indicated in his post-draft press conference.
Sometimes it's best to do nothing.
LeBron's still superman, but his kryptonite (age; he turns 34 in December) is coming upon him. He averaged 5.7 turnovers in the Celtics series and really looked tired in at least two of those games.
Thankfully Magic isn't doing the trades. Pelinka is, and on big trades he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I don't think Magic would go over Pelinka's head. These two have raised expectations but honestly, even if we sign P.G. we've won just cause it would be the step in the right direct.
Also if Lebron is coming, he's coming anyway, Kawhi may be a factor but i doubt its huge. Houston is a difficult place to deal with given they have problems to deal with of their own, namely CP3 wanting a supermax.
Philly also has the process, does Lebron mess that up perhaps, does Lebron and Simmons work together (which is the same issue we have with Lonzo and Lebron).
chrisab123 wrote:zshawn10 wrote:?s=19
It’s interesting....the Lakers need to be careful about this. Does LeBron PG and Kwahi beat GSW? I’m not sure. Definitely puts them above Houston. Might only be a 2 year window. LeBron is going into his 16th season. Also remember that someone is going to have to be the Bosh on this team...If it’s Kwahi then you’ve given up most of your young talent for a 3rd option. If it’s George? Then you’ve still given up most of your young depth for a 2nd option...