PG: We survived 4-1

[Deeeez Knicks]

I'm just glad to root for wins and get them. Haven't been able to focus on the games with the passing of my girlfriend almost 3 weeks ago. Tonight I saw some slop at the end bt they were clearly the better team. 4-1 and looking like a solid playoff contender so far. Plenty of games to play and fix any issues. On to the next one.

Damn man. Very sorry to hear of your loss.

[Adelheid]

Where is the path to upgrade the Knicks?

Which position should it happen at or which player?

Let's assume the Knicks are a middle of the pack playoff team right now. Might be a little generous, but just go with that.

Which position/piece/player takes them to the next level.

For instance, I'm a fan of SGA. Find myself hoping that OKC decides to move on from his money after all. Probably not. But other than age, his he THAT much of an upgrade over Rose/Kemba? I mean, next level upgrade?

I know the Knicks have to solve PG long term
RJ is the homegrown draft pick, but he's not a star, not now, maybe never.
Fournier is good, but not dominant.
Mitch is very good defensively but a role player offensively.
There's even an argument for moving Randle for the right guys.

SGA? KAT? Booker? Ignoring that these players are under contract.
I'll pass on Beal.
Dame is a great player but he's 31, gets paid a ton, will cost even more.

I'm going to assume the upgrade happens at the wing and sends Fournier or RJ to 6th man status.

Firstoff Knicks may seemingly need to trade Burks. Old but playstyle isnt that vetty that rookies can learn from.

[BadNewsBarnes]

I'll chalk up the end of the game to the Knicks still not in shape. I thought Kemba in PG interview eluded to this.

Like many of you posted, Thibs will need to rethink the final 3 minutes of ball management and strategies...this hasn't worked up to now...

[thebuzzardman]

Where is the path to upgrade the Knicks?

Which position should it happen at or which player?

Let's assume the Knicks are a middle of the pack playoff team right now. Might be a little generous, but just go with that.

Which position/piece/player takes them to the next level.

For instance, I'm a fan of SGA. Find myself hoping that OKC decides to move on from his money after all. Probably not. But other than age, his he THAT much of an upgrade over Rose/Kemba? I mean, next level upgrade?

I know the Knicks have to solve PG long term
RJ is the homegrown draft pick, but he's not a star, not now, maybe never.
Fournier is good, but not dominant.
Mitch is very good defensively but a role player offensively.
There's even an argument for moving Randle for the right guys.

SGA? KAT? Booker? Ignoring that these players are under contract.
I'll pass on Beal.
Dame is a great player but he's 31, gets paid a ton, will cost even more.

I'm going to assume the upgrade happens at the wing and sends Fournier or RJ to 6th man status.

Firstoff Knicks may seemingly need to trade Burks. Old but playstyle isnt that vetty that rookies can learn from.

Actually, I think guys like IQ, Grimes and RJ can learn a lot from Burks.

I don't think Burks is great; he's ok. Ok to good. He's uneven. But when he plays well, which is like 2 out of every 3 games, he plays the right way. He'll attack the basket a little, makes his shots, playmakes some. He's actually a useful NBA player.
That's why when the Knicks bundle him with Noel, they'll be able to move them. Because they aren't long term contracts, especially next year, and they don't suck.

[thebuzzardman]

I got to watch the game early AM. Ok, I only got to mid 3rd. I know Randle stinks it up at the end.

But let's appreciate that Randle is a PF making dribble passes and cross court passes out of the post to open shooters.

Randle adjusted his selfishness and "trying to do too much" from Fizzle to 1st year Thibs, and I think he's adjusting to the reality of how Fournier and Kemba play.

I mean, last year, Bullocks rarely cut, he spotted up for 3's, and Randle found him. We know Elf. And know you have Fournier who can operate in the P&R, but so can RJ, but so should Kemba, and Kemba should be taking and making shots Elf shouldn't and didn't last year.

Now that the Knicks have 3 shooters around Randle, but Randle is also a shooter himself, there are different ways they can play 4 out and in this Bulls game I'm starting to notice different wrinkles in the offense. Maybe I just happened to notice and it's been there all year. I mean besides that Kemba and Fournier add a dimension the Knicks lacked.

I think Randle has to adjust. This offense is already legitimately good. It's no fluke they can score. Once they get things sorted a bit, they are going to look REALLY good.

[snadler]

In reality, the knicks season which is so hopeful and exciting, can be crushed if Mitch gets hurt which seems to happen every game. Mitch is the difference between the knicks being a borderline playoff team to a top 4 seed in the east.

[ag3]

good win. but randle doesn't have it in him to be a 1st option at the end of games. we've seen it a bunch of times. some of you don't want to but we're gonna have to make a trade eventually.

Walker is capable of being the end of game guy.

[Separatista]

I’m getting anxious for Mitch every game now. If we had any coach other than Thibs, Mitch might have rest days. But knowing him, unless the bone is sticking out, thibs will play you. Someone give mitch one of those forest gump leg braces. He’ll walk funny but that leg/feet will be straight for sure.

[Synciere]

Where is the path to upgrade the Knicks?

Which position should it happen at or which player?

Let's assume the Knicks are a middle of the pack playoff team right now. Might be a little generous, but just go with that.

Which position/piece/player takes them to the next level.

For instance, I'm a fan of SGA. Find myself hoping that OKC decides to move on from his money after all. Probably not. But other than age, his he THAT much of an upgrade over Rose/Kemba? I mean, next level upgrade?

I know the Knicks have to solve PG long term
RJ is the homegrown draft pick, but he's not a star, not now, maybe never.
Fournier is good, but not dominant.
Mitch is very good defensively but a role player offensively.
There's even an argument for moving Randle for the right guys.

SGA? KAT? Booker? Ignoring that these players are under contract.
I'll pass on Beal.
Dame is a great player but he's 31, gets paid a ton, will cost even more.

I'm going to assume the upgrade happens at the wing and sends Fournier or RJ to 6th man status.

It's someone we haven't even thought of yet. Like Sabonis or someone.

Maybe Donovan Mitchell if Utah doesn't break through. But you have to think they offer him a super max as soon as he hits an all nba team and he won't want to leave money on the table.

[NewEra]

Mood

[Jimmit79]

good win. but randle doesn't have it in him to be a 1st option at the end of games. we've seen it a bunch of times. some of you don't want to but we're gonna have to make a trade eventually.

We are committed to him now tough and don't think he will give up #1 option to anyone else who comes here

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[Nbabrothers]

I callled it in another post! The game would end with one team shooting at the buzzer for the win and missing! Right on point boy! Thank God it was the Knicks winning. Scary to know we were up 104-91 and won 104-103.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Where is the path to upgrade the Knicks?

Which position should it happen at or which player?

Let's assume the Knicks are a middle of the pack playoff team right now. Might be a little generous, but just go with that.

Which position/piece/player takes them to the next level.

For instance, I'm a fan of SGA. Find myself hoping that OKC decides to move on from his money after all. Probably not. But other than age, his he THAT much of an upgrade over Rose/Kemba? I mean, next level upgrade?

I know the Knicks have to solve PG long term
RJ is the homegrown draft pick, but he's not a star, not now, maybe never.
Fournier is good, but not dominant.
Mitch is very good defensively but a role player offensively.
There's even an argument for moving Randle for the right guys.

SGA? KAT? Booker? Ignoring that these players are under contract.
I'll pass on Beal.
Dame is a great player but he's 31, gets paid a ton, will cost even more.

I'm going to assume the upgrade happens at the wing and sends Fournier or RJ to 6th man status.

There's always some exceptions but in general its tough to win it all without a top 5, or maybe top 10 player. Those guys obviously come at a premium cost and are tough to get.

Ideal position? Our PG play has actually been really good with Kemba/Rose...at least compared to what we are used to. Its weird how that position has turned into a strength, at least not a weakness anymore. If we are looking at this from an ideal standpoint (and not realistic) I would say Lebron, Giannis, KD, Kawhi, Luka, etc. Obviously those guys are not available though.

If we are being more realistic then I dont know if we can be so picky about position. Basically look for any legit superstar that can be a #1 scorer and close out games.

In terms of options available maybe Lilliard is the closest top 10ish guy. Any Lilliard trade would bring a lot of questions that would need to be answered. What are we giving up? What does the team look like after the trade? How much time does Dame have left? It really depends

SGA would be great, but I am not buying that he's available for anything we could give up. Mitchell would be another great fit but he's locked up for the next 5 years or so.

Altogether, there may not be any realistic moves to put us over the top right now. I am cool with being patient and waiting for the right time. We def need that #1 guy. If we keep progressing like this, good things will happen though and we can wait for the right move.

This team has been pretty fun to watch so I am enjoying it. Its ok if we dont win it all this year

[Spree2Houston]

Bulls lose but are their fans more happy about this game than ours due to the last couple of minutes? Don’t forget we were handling them pretty easily even with foolish turnovers all game.

They’re in denial man lol they want to still believe their team is legitimate

[Deeeez Knicks]

Mood

[Nbabrothers]

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I love the fact that Randle didn’t have to score over twenty points for us to get the win. He rebounded and passed great. He’s not a one dimensional player. I say up for MVP

[Strick]

I'm just glad to root for wins and get them. Haven't been able to focus on the games with the passing of my girlfriend almost 3 weeks ago. Tonight I saw some slop at the end bt they were clearly the better team. 4-1 and looking like a solid playoff contender so far. Plenty of games to play and fix any issues. On to the next one.

I’m so sorry to hear this, man. If you ever need someone to talk to or anything please don’t hesitate to reach out!

[Nbabrothers]

No one can stop RJ one on one! When he misses layups it’s not because of the defense, it’s more mental and it’s scary to know he’s only going to get better at it. The sky is the limit with our 21 year old

[Milk]

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