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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#381 » by Jcool0 » Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:49 am

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Because he’s reporting the thoughts of someone else?


? He doesn't really "report" anything in this podcast.


Is he not reporting that Vuc thinks he’s staying?


He reported that during the season and after the player exit interviews. This is nothing new. He said like 4 months ago the only way he is traded is for another all star player.
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#382 » by Jeffster81 » Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:52 am

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CROBulls wrote:Bulls didnt get fleeced. We bit paid more in assets to start this wheel spinning. Vuc got us DeRozan and DeRozan likely got us keeping Lavine and aquiring other players like Ball and Caruso. But we emptied our warchest. One of issues why this hurts more than it would usually is Patrick Williams being bust. If he was half 2/3rd of good as rookie Scottie Barnes we wouldnt be even talking about Vuc and our assets. Let's be perfectly real.

But situation is what it is. This are cards we have. Gobert on Bulls is upgrade over Vuc. I had/have no interest in discussing Wagner and WCJ. I loath WCJ. His name, his face, his goggles, his basketball skill and basketball mentality. His time with Bulls wont ever change my opinion of him.

How can you ascertain that Williams is a bust at this point?

Because i saw him try play basketball.


That does not mean he's a bust, though. Just a bust in your eyes.

Pat WIlliams is not even old enough to drink legally yet. He also has played on 88 games in two seasons, while suffering a injury that cost him a significant part of this past season. Calling him a bust right now is still a bit premature. I do admit next season is big for Pat Williams but he's not a bust right now.
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#383 » by dice » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:32 pm

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i find that hard to believe given that artie has committed strongly to 3 players who are pretty much the polar opposite in lavine, derozan and vuc



1) hasn't committed to LaVine yet (though I expect him to)
2) he also committed to Caruso and Ball - whether he's also signed offensively-minded players does not somehow mean he does not also like defensively-minded ones

true. i'm just suggesting that by his commitments, there does not seem to be such a thing as an "artie kind of guy"
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#385 » by weneeda2guard » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:32 pm

When there is smoke there is fire. Mitchell and bulls have mutual interest apparently. So much so some insiders with the Knicks feel we are a real threat to grab him.
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#386 » by d boy gentleman » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:50 pm

sco wrote:https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/bulls-could-be-knicks-top-mitchell-robinson-free-agency-competition/


The Bulls want to enhance their interior defense and believe Robinson could be a good fit slotted alongside offense-minded center Nikola Vucevic. Chicago reportedly has $49 million in cap space, but that’s before they commit to their own free agent, Zach LaVine — if they commit.


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Where the hell they got that number from?!
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#389 » by dice » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:16 pm

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sco wrote:https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/bulls-could-be-knicks-top-mitchell-robinson-free-agency-competition/


The Bulls want to enhance their interior defense and believe Robinson could be a good fit slotted alongside offense-minded center Nikola Vucevic. Chicago reportedly has $49 million in cap space, but that’s before they commit to their own free agent, Zach LaVine — if they commit.


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Where the hell they got that number from?!

they're referring to the luxury tax line, which is exactly $149 mil. and they don't mention the cost of the first round pick

27.3 DDR (wing)
22.0 vuc (big)
19.5 lonzo (PG)
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7.4 coby (guard)
3.1 first rounder
2.0 bradley (player option big)
1.8 green (wing)
1.6 ayo (guard)
1.6 simonovic (big)

that's 103.1 w/o lavine, who is eligible for up to 36.6 in year 1. maxing him out would leave 9.3 mil, which would presumably be used on a big man. the MLE is $10.3, which could be used, but would have the bulls tentatively in the tax unless bradley opts out
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#390 » by MikeDC » Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:49 pm

Mitchell Robinson kind of sucks and would be the kind of signing that pushes me to start seriously questioning what the hell AKME are all about.

It's be another top dollar signing for a guy who's got
1. Questionable ability to stay on the court in the playoffs
2. Questionable fit with the team (absolutely trash shooter)
3. Questionable injury history and motivational history.

Beyond all that, he's weirdly getting fat (up to 280lbs!) which is probably a big part of the reason he's become less switchable and stagnated as a defender

Despite my dislike, this very much has the feel of last year when the Bulls were "expressing interest" in DDR and Lonzo for months before it happened. The Bulls have been linked to Robinson since back around the trade deadline. I think they like him. I don't know why.
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Post#392 » by MikeDC » Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:51 pm

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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#393 » by ImSlower » Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:53 pm

That Vucevic tweet is hilarious! So surely he clicks on this forum too then :D

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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#394 » by TheSuzerain » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:53 am

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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#395 » by Red8911 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:26 am

MikeDC wrote:Mitchell Robinson kind of sucks and would be the kind of signing that pushes me to start seriously questioning what the hell AKME are all about.

It's be another top dollar signing for a guy who's got
1. Questionable ability to stay on the court in the playoffs
2. Questionable fit with the team (absolutely trash shooter)
3. Questionable injury history and motivational history.

Beyond all that, he's weirdly getting fat (up to 280lbs!) which is probably a big part of the reason he's become less switchable and stagnated as a defender

Despite my dislike, this very much has the feel of last year when the Bulls were "expressing interest" in DDR and Lonzo for months before it happened. The Bulls have been linked to Robinson since back around the trade deadline. I think they like him. I don't know why.

Mitchell Robinson as a starter is a hell no but looks like they want him as a Vuc back up so if that’s the case then it would be a very good signing. He would provide some bulls needs like size, rebounding, rim protection and is capable of starting when/if Vuc misses games or even play along side him. This would be a good first step to building a solid bench.
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#396 » by meekrab » Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:54 am

MikeDC wrote:Mitchell Robinson kind of sucks and would be the kind of signing that pushes me to start seriously questioning what the hell AKME are all about.

It's be another top dollar signing for a guy who's got
1. Questionable ability to stay on the court in the playoffs
2. Questionable fit with the team (absolutely trash shooter)
3. Questionable injury history and motivational history.

Beyond all that, he's weirdly getting fat (up to 280lbs!) which is probably a big part of the reason he's become less switchable and stagnated as a defender

Despite my dislike, this very much has the feel of last year when the Bulls were "expressing interest" in DDR and Lonzo for months before it happened. The Bulls have been linked to Robinson since back around the trade deadline. I think they like him. I don't know why.

Kind of sucks? What are you talking about? His advanced stats are legendary tier for a guy who's potentially available for the MLE.

21.3 career PER, .704 TS%, .218 WS/48, 1.5 VORP per season. He's exactly the guy you want for a low usage big.
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#397 » by RSP83 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:10 am

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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#398 » by FriedRise » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:27 pm

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Does this mean he reads our board?


More than likely lol
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Re: O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson 

Post#399 » by League Circles » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:39 pm

MikeDC wrote:Mitchell Robinson kind of sucks and would be the kind of signing that pushes me to start seriously questioning what the hell AKME are all about.

It's be another top dollar signing for a guy who's got
1. Questionable ability to stay on the court in the playoffs
2. Questionable fit with the team (absolutely trash shooter)
3. Questionable injury history and motivational history.

Beyond all that, he's weirdly getting fat (up to 280lbs!) which is probably a big part of the reason he's become less switchable and stagnated as a defender

Despite my dislike, this very much has the feel of last year when the Bulls were "expressing interest" in DDR and Lonzo for months before it happened. The Bulls have been linked to Robinson since back around the trade deadline. I think they like him. I don't know why.

Maybe the interest is primarily if we strike out elsewhere and sign him via the MLE?
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Post#400 » by sco » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:49 pm

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MikeDC wrote:Mitchell Robinson kind of sucks and would be the kind of signing that pushes me to start seriously questioning what the hell AKME are all about.

It's be another top dollar signing for a guy who's got
1. Questionable ability to stay on the court in the playoffs
2. Questionable fit with the team (absolutely trash shooter)
3. Questionable injury history and motivational history.

Beyond all that, he's weirdly getting fat (up to 280lbs!) which is probably a big part of the reason he's become less switchable and stagnated as a defender

Despite my dislike, this very much has the feel of last year when the Bulls were "expressing interest" in DDR and Lonzo for months before it happened. The Bulls have been linked to Robinson since back around the trade deadline. I think they like him. I don't know why.

Maybe the interest is primarily if we strike out elsewhere and sign him via the MLE?

Someone will have to explain the ins and outs of the timing mechanics of us being able to offer the non-taxpayer MLE (which would be needed here). I'm not sure if there is a scenario where we can offer it by delaying signing Zach for a few days? If not, we're stuck with the $6.5M tax-payer MLE, which would be a great deal for MRob, but I'd really doubt that he won't get offers elsewhere for $10M+.
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